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Mafia 56 - The Most Dangerous Card Game Ladies and Gentlemen, Take Your Seats!

#401 User is offline   Hood's Path 

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:06 PM

Yeah, i dont see why anyone would lie abotu seating arrangements anyway

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:09 PM

i cant see a reason for it either HP but it does still look suspicious as one of thems lying.

as i said i might just be going on gut instinct

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:12 PM

But with that claification it makes sense. So its either Serc lying or neither. Im inclined to say that neither are lying and Serc just messed up, as there is nothing to gain from it.

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:13 PM

i know what ure saying HP ima hold off on any judgement for the time being.

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:38 PM

take it no one else is on? i may have a low post count over the weekend ima be away but ill get on when i can

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:40 PM

I'm on debating if I should use the vig.

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:42 PM

id say no, as its an important end game card and shouldnt be used imo unless your damn certain that person is scum

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:43 PM

I'm still here for a little while, even if I probably shouldn't be.

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:47 PM

I'll leave it as no kill then

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:48 PM

But I think the first thing we should find out is why Alkend used it.

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:48 PM

im with HP on the situation with the vig. only use if 100% certain. and even then id still save for near the end of the game

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:48 PM

View PostHood, on 22 January 2010 - 02:42 PM, said:

id say no, as its an important end game card and shouldnt be used imo unless your damn certain that person is scum

This.

Using the vig right now isn't all that wise considering we don't have the greatest read on who may be scum right now. Your biggest pick for the master (Olar) was a Card Player, to put it in perspective.

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:49 PM

yeah, and who on. The one thing we do know if he did use it is that he is inno because scum cant use that card.

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:50 PM

I'm not sure to use the Vig or not. Assuming Worst Case, then I think we should Vig as we might not get it again. If we think we got an Assistant, then we don't need to Vig.

Worst case with Vig:
11 players left 3 scum who get 2 kills a night.

Vig 1, 2 are killed. Day 4 we have 8 players left.

If we lynch then 2 kills would win scum the game.

Worse case without a Vig:
11 players lefts.
2 are killed tonight. Day 4 we have 9 players left.
We lynch and we are down to 8.
2 Kills wins the scum the game.

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:50 PM

View PostD, on 22 January 2010 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 22 January 2010 - 02:42 PM, said:

id say no, as its an important end game card and shouldnt be used imo unless your damn certain that person is scum

This.

Using the vig right now isn't all that wise considering we don't have the greatest read on who may be scum right now. Your biggest pick for the master (Olar) was a Card Player, to put it in perspective.


Whos biggest pick for master? i dont remember anyone that suspicious of him. (not that i remember him doing anything) but yeah i get your point

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:52 PM

View PostHood, on 22 January 2010 - 02:50 PM, said:

View PostD, on 22 January 2010 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 22 January 2010 - 02:42 PM, said:

id say no, as its an important end game card and shouldnt be used imo unless your damn certain that person is scum

This.

Using the vig right now isn't all that wise considering we don't have the greatest read on who may be scum right now. Your biggest pick for the master (Olar) was a Card Player, to put it in perspective.


Whos biggest pick for master? i dont remember anyone that suspicious of him. (not that i remember him doing anything) but yeah i get your point

Sorry, I was talking to Barghast, but agreeing with your post.

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:53 PM

It was me who had suspicions because of his low number and the content and he was escaping attention. But he requested a mod kill

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:55 PM

sorry just to remin you serc only 10 alive olar requested a modkill

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:56 PM

View PostSerc, on 22 January 2010 - 02:50 PM, said:

I'm not sure to use the Vig or not. Assuming Worst Case, then I think we should Vig as we might not get it again. If we think we got an Assistant, then we don't need to Vig.

Worst case with Vig:
11 players left 3 scum who get 2 kills a night.

Vig 1, 2 are killed. Day 4 we have 8 players left.

If we lynch then 2 kills would win scum the game.

Worse case without a Vig:
11 players lefts.
2 are killed tonight. Day 4 we have 9 players left.
We lynch and we are down to 8.
2 Kills wins the scum the game.

Surely WCS is that with a Vig going off, scum kill twice and an inno is vigged?

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 03:08 PM

Ahh Olar was Mod killed. Shit. Well does anyone think we have killed an Assistant yet?

Assuming WCS:
We essentially have one lynch left before its game over so that lynch has to be scum.

With the Vig that gives us a second shot.

IF we wait till tomorrow, we lose 2 overnight taking us to 8. We lynch down to 7. IF we don't hit scum on the lynch, 2 more scum kills and we are down to 5 and its game over. The Vig won't matter any more.

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