[Thyrllan]

woo cleared the firewall lol

I must say that with the low posters (me included) we do need to try and get on more, right now i dont have much to add in critisism (sp?) but i thought it was abit harsh of Bargy voting for Alkend because hes in a mood.

Barghast said:

Ok as there is a lot of players being low posters I agree we should lynch them as it in a nice easy area for scum to hide.

Vote Alkend

which makes me think that a high poster could perhaps be and assistant and Bargy is trying to throw people off the scent of himself or even the other assistant. to me this looks suspicious therefore im gonna

Vote Barghast

[Path-Shaper]

OK folks, PB here.

Thursday couldn't resolve it himself due to time issues, but he did clarify that the Mayor card is a night action that affects the next day. With that said, a lynch did occur after all.

Ampelas is dead to fix the error (he wasn't online anyway to cause any kind of zombie paradox). He was a Card Player.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 19 hours and 44 minutes remaining. The draw will occur in 1 hour and 44 minutes.
11 Players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kalse, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Serc, Thyrllan

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Alkend ( Mockra, Barghast )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Thyrllan )

Players not voted: Alkend, D'riss, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kalse, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Serc

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 21 January 2010 - 04:48 PM

[Kalse]

I'm on, Did a quick catch-up. No amp lynch. thats 2-3 days for no lynch. ...we do know that in order to really get good info from a train we have to actually have a lynch to know if the lynchee was scum or not? Oh well... back to the drawing board.

Hopefully ampleas gets modkilled and we get a CF, then it will be like a lynch happened.

My question, why the hell would you use the mayor card this early in the game? Imo thats a card that the scum would covet. Good if an inno has it, but not to use it. Lynching is one of our power tools. that card really throws things out of whack.

I am going to assume that the Vig card wasn't played as that too is risky with this many people left. Unless the vig comes forward, I am going to assume no vig.

Low posting is killing us, and I have no problem revoting ampleas,or even Alkend (sorry about the power man). The thing that gets me about Alkend is that he keeps saying the power is out, but then he comes on and posts once, just saying the power is out, and then vanishes... come on man, give us something to work with. Do I think Amp and Alk are both scum... no. Do i think one of them is scum laying low? Yes. I am going to wait to see if amp gets modkilled before I place my vote. But it's going to be on one of those 2 as they are doing nothing to help us, and are a definate possibility of scum laying low.

[Kalse]

Path-Shaper, on 21 January 2010 - 04:45 PM, said:

OK folks, PB here.

Thursday couldn't resolve it himself due to time issues, but he did clarify that the Mayor card is a night action that affects the next day. With that said, a lynch did occur after all.

Ampelas is dead to fix the error (he wasn't online anyway to cause any kind of zombie paradox). He was a Card Player.

Wow major x-post lol

[Kalse]

@ Path-Shaper

I know its too late now as they have probably been spoilered, but would that have affected the outcome of the Night Kills? ( IE should one of those kills not happened?)

[Path-Shaper]

@ Kalse

It did not affect anything whatsoever other than seating information for Ampelas's neighbors. That information has been sent out.

Luckily, this was a rare incident where Ampelas had not been online to post since the lynch and the night results had no change, which is why I felt it was OK to correct the error.

Carry on!

[Gamelon]

Path-Shaper, on 21 January 2010 - 04:45 PM, said:

OK folks, PB here.

Thursday couldn't resolve it himself due to time issues, but he did clarify that the Mayor card is a night action that affects the next day. With that said, a lynch did occur after all.

Ampelas is dead to fix the error (he wasn't online anyway to cause any kind of zombie paradox). He was a Card Player.

Interesting, so that means one of the people on the Ampelas train has their vote switched today!

[Kalse]

It also means he wasn't a apprentice.. unless a vig comes forward.

That makes me really lean towards voting Alkend. Gonna give it a few hours as sometimes Alk will come on around this time.

The BArgy vote was a little quick... but that being said... we have had no pressure on anyone in this game. I am chomping at the bit a little as well. I can understand the frustration in wanting to get an actual lynch.

[Gamelon]

Yeah I don't mind the quick Bargy vote, it's only putting Alk at 2 votes, and seeing as everyone's been completely shrugging off any single votes so far this game, 2 votes might be good to icnrease the pressure (and the chance of building a train and getting an actual lynch!)

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 19 hours and 9 minutes remaining. The draw will occur in 1 hour and 9 minutes.
11 Players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kalse, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Serc, Thyrllan

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Alkend ( Mockra, Barghast )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Thyrllan )

Players not voted: Alkend, D'riss, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kalse, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Serc

---

Taking off for a little bit but I'll be back to resolve the draft. Remember that if you do not submit a new list of cards, your previous day's list will be used!

[Barghast]

Mockra you talk about pressure, one vote isn't pressure, two votes or three are more likely to be classed as pressure.

If he lurking and he has suddenly more votes than he wants he will be on trying to deflect them, the more votes on him mean the more viable a lynch, he is unless someone comes on drunk and reveals all, in this current playing style.

I think there is scum in the low posters that I am sure of. But all three as low posters that is a dangerous territory to be in, so one of the assitants has to be a high poster.

Which you could be mockra. Now I would suspect someone more in the middle to be the master so maybe Olar.

The other possible assistant could be Thyrllan.

That would make a reasonable scum team. Mockra the calm and reasonable one who is putting forth valid arguments as a distraction, Thyrllan acts as a support in the arguments also it makes it look like he contributing to the conversation by just changing his view with a vote on me.

And Olar hasn't really contributed at all to my memory and seems to be the invisible one.

Or Thyrllan may be right and my mood is making me a bad player in all ways.

Think of this as you will but can we have suggestions of who could be possible scum combinations. We are looking for 3 guys not 1, two know each other and will be supporting each other and they will be clearly ignoring a third player or distracting our attention away from him. And it is hard to look for such behaviour when no one talking I admit but there has to be some indication who is the scum.

[Mockra]

Barghast, on 21 January 2010 - 05:47 PM, said:

BLAH BLAH BLAH


Think of this as you will but can we have suggestions of who could be possible scum combinations. We are looking for 3 guys not 1, two know each other and will be supporting each other and they will be clearly ignoring a third player or distracting our attention away from him. And it is hard to look for such behaviour when no one talking I admit but there has to be some indication who is the scum.

Bargy, had you said this before you voted it wouldn't have been nearly as scummy. But just dropping a vote and saying lets lynch the bastard for no other reason than he is a low poster, that is scummy. Its really a moot point, since I dont think you are scummy enough to switch my vote, but it would be much more helpful if you wouldn't just throw your vote around but do what you did above, which is explain yourself.

You never said in your post (where you voted) that you were applying pressure, you said you wanted a lynch. Big diffence there, but like I said before, its a moot point as you did eventually explain your vote.

[Thyrllan]

i can see where Bargy is coming from and its good logic, the middle poster though is something that disnt cross my mind.

i know that Bargy has now explained his vote but im gonna keep mine as is right now as theres just something about him that i cant put my finger on im not sure what it is yet though but im sure somethings not right there.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 17 hours and 55 minutes remaining
11 Players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kalse, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Serc, Thyrllan

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Alkend ( Mockra, Barghast )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Thyrllan )

Players not voted: Alkend, D'riss, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kalse, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Serc

---

Cards are going out right now.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 17 hours and 43 minutes remaining
11 Players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kalse, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Serc, Thyrllan

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Alkend ( Mockra, Barghast )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Thyrllan )

Players not voted: Alkend, D'riss, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kalse, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Serc

---

The draft is complete, all cards have been dealt.

[Mockra]

Well, I am out. I'll try to get on later, but I'm not sure. I am happy with my vote right now so I'll leave it on.

[Kalse]

Barghast, on 21 January 2010 - 05:47 PM, said:

Mockra you talk about pressure, one vote isn't pressure, two votes or three are more likely to be classed as pressure.

If he lurking and he has suddenly more votes than he wants he will be on trying to deflect them, the more votes on him mean the more viable a lynch, he is unless someone comes on drunk and reveals all, in this current playing style.

I think there is scum in the low posters that I am sure of. But all three as low posters that is a dangerous territory to be in, so one of the assitants has to be a high poster.

Which you could be mockra. Now I would suspect someone more in the middle to be the master so maybe Olar.

The other possible assistant could be Thyrllan.

That would make a reasonable scum team. Mockra the calm and reasonable one who is putting forth valid arguments as a distraction, Thyrllan acts as a support in the arguments also it makes it look like he contributing to the conversation by just changing his view with a vote on me.

And Olar hasn't really contributed at all to my memory and seems to be the invisible one.

Or Thyrllan may be right and my mood is making me a bad player in all ways.

Think of this as you will but can we have suggestions of who could be possible scum combinations. We are looking for 3 guys not 1, two know each other and will be supporting each other and they will be clearly ignoring a third player or distracting our attention away from him. And it is hard to look for such behaviour when no one talking I admit but there has to be some indication who is the scum.

This is logical. And I always am a fan of suspect lists. It can really help us down the line. While I don't totally agree with your list, I like the thinking behind it. I also think there is Scum hiding in the low poster area: That being Alkend, Thyr and Olar Ethil. As has been stated, of the Three I think Alkend the most likely for being on sparingly, and then when he does have the chance to come on and make a point.. well, he just kinda vanishes.

This post has been edited by Kalse: 21 January 2010 - 07:15 PM

[Kalse]

Path-Shaper 37Mockra 31Kaschan 27Barghast 26Hood's Path 24Gamelon 23Silchas Ruin 21Serc 19Ruse 14Osseric 14Kalse 12D'riss 12Olar Ethil 11Emurlahn 9Thyrllan 7Alkend 7Ampelas 4

So looking here: I already made my thoughts on low posters.. after that it kinda jumbles together. Olar, D'riss, Me, Osseric, Serc. All in the middle posting range. I would expect either the killer and an apprentice in this group, or maybe just the Killer. He wont want to stand out, but he won't want to be viewed as a low poster.
Of this group, I have a good feeling about Serc, and to a lesser extent Osseric. Seem to have a decent grasp of whats going on and have made good posts. I could see D'riss or Olar being a possible Killer. Leaning toward Olar here. Been around just enough to keep the spot light off of himself, not making waves.

Top posters: I haven't been in a mafia game yet where the killer has been a top poster( not to say it can't happen...as I have only played 20 or so games) , but it would make me think that We have another apprentice in the top: Mockra, Bargy, HP, and Gamelon. I have a feeling the mini pissing match between Bargy and Mockra is the classic Malaz Mafia inno's bickering. Gamelon has made some good points recently as well, I have no read on HP. So I guess I would go there.

Anyway, I could be totally wrong and all 3 could be top posters, with so little to go on, a "Top Poster" Would be a low poster 10 games ago.

So if you put a gun to my head and asked who I thought the Scum team was:

Killer: Olar Ethil
Apprentice: Alkend, HP

Knowing my mafia instincts, ...I am 0/3

We have really not had a whole heck of a lot to go on. I hope some of the other low posters start to get more involved.

[Kalse]

D, on 20 January 2010 - 07:05 AM, said:

Two things that stood out to me:

1) Silchas - seems a bit eager to get everyone sharing, and I don't like it, especially considering people change places and the King changes everyday, so any attempt to manipulate the cards will fail, and scum will be able to get a better read on the game.

2) Kaschan's vote on Mockra. It was supposed to be a random feeler vote to kickstart something, but he goes for the person who voted for his fake master, and he died that night. I dunno what to make of it, but it stinks.

Hmmm, looking back over Olar's post deciding whether to drop a vote and came across this post by D'riss.

Kaschan and Silchas both Died last night. I know NK's are wifom.. but both kills? This looks to me like he was signaling his master, and master signaling back In the form of a Kill. idk to me it seems really odd that 2 people that driss brought up in thread both ended up dead.


vote D'riss