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Mafia 55 - Kill Bill Game Thread

#141 User is offline   Path-Shaper 

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 03:51 PM

It is Day 1. 13 hours, 30 minutes remain.

18 players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan

1 Vote Fener (Olar Ethil)
1 Vote Korbas (Spite)

Not voted: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan


I want to make one small typo correction. There is a rule with a typo at the start that SHOULD read:
You *may* quote and/or fake quote your PMs. But be careful, The Bride is always watching you.

Also, I'd like to clarify that because I wasn't quite sure how many players I was going to have, a couple of rules changed shortly before I sent out the PMs. The CORRECT victory conditions for the Bride, The Town, and The Assassin are all listed back at the start of this thread, not necessarily in your PM. As you can see, they are all mutually exclusive. I will restate them below just for clarification, sorry about any mix up. If you still aren't sure what your VCs are, please message me directly, thanks.

Town - Stop The Bride and her allies from killing all members of the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad, and stop The Assassin
Bride - Kill all members of the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad, stop The Assassin
Assassin - Kill everyone

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 08 December 2009 - 03:51 PM

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#142 User is offline   Eloth 

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 03:56 PM

Crosspost with Alkend there. Whats up with all these people and the priorities? The chances of us finding out who both The Bride and Assassin are on the same day is probably around 0. What 2 seperate Finders are going to reveal at the same time in a cross posting fiasco?

Instead of this priority nonesense, I think we should just try and find scum or since its Day 1, anyone who looks slightly shifty and hope its scum.

Unfortunately at the moment its starting to look we might be heading the classic, speed lynch anyone on Day 1 path.

Also, Mod can we have a list of alts playing and total player numbers? That would be handy.

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 03:58 PM

Crosspost with the Mod I need to type faster! Thank you oh glorious Mr Butta.

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:00 PM

Hmmm, that stop the assassin bit is interesting as it implies that they dont necessarily have to be lynched/killed

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:01 PM

View PostSpite, on 08 December 2009 - 02:16 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 08 December 2009 - 12:13 PM, said:

I dislike how people speak of priorities, as if we have the luxury of choice.

After all, finder and CF results excepted, there is no way of knowing the alignment of whomever you target/ lynch.

Moreover, taking out the Assassin before we take out The Bride will from there on roughly halve the chances that a kill targets one of the Vipers, assuming The Bride and Assassin are capable of 1 NK each, thus buying more time for us to also get rid of The Bride.

In the quite frankly unlikely instance where we have the luxury of knowing the identity of both, of course we should lynch The Bride first, but up until then, I wouldn't pass up on the opportunity to get rid of the Assassin as well.

edit: adding the Enters I had there in the first place. The boards upgrade seems to mess with a whole lot of things :)


so you dislike how we talk about priorities when your happy to discuss how things will be when the assassin is taken out? Why not the bride first? As if anyone is going to go - oh wait we know the assassin lets leave them alone for a while. They are all scum.

vote korbas

i think you are the bride.



Edit: Weird. I would have sworn I had the 'cry me a river, dickbag' comment quoted. Oh well.

If I wasn't determined to play the game as I think it should be played, I wouldn't consider your post worthy of replying as your every word shows you care more about polishing your pole and satisfying your inner baboon that relishes noting more than throwing your shit around. Were I a four year old, I could appreciate that.If you want to get serious, explain to me how we are going to be able to choose who we take care of first, bride or assassin.

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:09 PM

View PostKorbas, on 08 December 2009 - 04:01 PM, said:

View PostSpite, on 08 December 2009 - 02:16 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 08 December 2009 - 12:13 PM, said:

I dislike how people speak of priorities, as if we have the luxury of choice.

After all, finder and CF results excepted, there is no way of knowing the alignment of whomever you target/ lynch.

Moreover, taking out the Assassin before we take out The Bride will from there on roughly halve the chances that a kill targets one of the Vipers, assuming The Bride and Assassin are capable of 1 NK each, thus buying more time for us to also get rid of The Bride.

In the quite frankly unlikely instance where we have the luxury of knowing the identity of both, of course we should lynch The Bride first, but up until then, I wouldn't pass up on the opportunity to get rid of the Assassin as well.

edit: adding the Enters I had there in the first place. The boards upgrade seems to mess with a whole lot of things :)


so you dislike how we talk about priorities when your happy to discuss how things will be when the assassin is taken out?  Why not the bride first?  As if anyone is going to go - oh wait we know the assassin lets leave them alone for a while.  They are all scum.

vote korbas

i think you are the bride.


i think its been clearly pointed out that the bride has symps while the assassin does not. clearly if we have multiple suspects and one is being defended by players (and we are smart enough to avoid any fake sympage catching us out mind) then thats the bride and they take preference.


If I wasn't determined to play the game as I think it should be played, I wouldn't consider your post worthy of replying as your every word shows you care more about polishing your pole and satisfying your inner baboon that relishes noting more than throwing your shit around. Were I a four year old, I could appreciate that.If you want to get serious, explain to me how we are going to be able to choose who we take care of first, bride or assassin.


edit - because everything i wrote disappeared FUCK.

as i am too lazy the shortened version is the bride has symps, the assassin doesn't. if we have two suspects whichever one seems likely to have been symped, we lynch first.

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:11 PM

Yeah, cool.Except that there may be people who know the Vipers as well and defend them.

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:14 PM

Aye, the disappearance of text thing has happened to me, too. I blame the forum upgrade. See my comment above.However, I expect O-Ren to have a henchman as well (the bald eighty-eight ball), maybe Bill, too - dopesn't seem too far of a stretch of Vipers knowing one another, either. Moreover, lynching anyone who defends someone else is just going to ensure no-one will speak up against ridiculous cases as that may be seen as symping, leading to trains full of sheep out for self-preservation.

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:15 PM

ok...

But in that case they still have to do something to make them suspect in the first place so while you were happy to critise me for saying which of the scum i would think is a priority now you are going to argue with me based on what if's in a tmdi 7+ game??

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:16 PM

View PostSpite, on 08 December 2009 - 04:15 PM, said:

ok...

But in that case they still have to do something to make them suspect in the first place so while you were happy to critise me for saying which of the scum i would think is a priority now you are going to argue with me based on what if's in a tmdi 7+ game??



Short and good: yes. Sheeple are bad, no matter the tmdi. Moreover, scum has an easier time hiding amongst sheep.

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:18 PM

View PostKorbas, on 08 December 2009 - 04:14 PM, said:

Aye, the disappearance of text thing has happened to me, too. I blame the forum upgrade. See my comment above.However, I expect O-Ren to have a henchman as well (the bald eighty-eight ball), maybe Bill, too - dopesn't seem too far of a stretch of Vipers knowing one another, either. Moreover, lynching anyone who defends someone else is just going to ensure no-one will speak up against ridiculous cases as that may be seen as symping, leading to trains full of sheep out for self-preservation.


dude - i didnt say that. Seriously, we have to make cases and deciding on day 1 before anyone has even done any defending that making cases based on that is off limits just in case one of the vipers has henchmen as you put it is frankly ridiculous and you know it. So chill your bags and agree to disagree. I took offense to the way you worded somethign about the way i worded something and i heading off now so much as i enjoy pissing contests they have a habit of seeing people lynched for no other reason than everyone else sits back and does nothing while they are going on.

remove vote

you say potato - i say lynch the bride first if we find both :)

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:20 PM

View PostKorbas, on 08 December 2009 - 04:16 PM, said:

View PostSpite, on 08 December 2009 - 04:15 PM, said:

ok...

But in that case they still have to do something to make them suspect in the first place so while you were happy to critise me for saying which of the scum i would think is a priority now you are going to argue with me based on what if's in a tmdi 7+ game??



Short and good: yes. Sheeple are bad, no matter the tmdi. Moreover, scum has an easier time hiding amongst sheep.


who is talking about sheep? seriously your just throwing terms out there for no good reason. the orignal point of our discussion has been covered, lynch tactics werent even touched uipon and i think everyone knows that sheep are necessary or no lynch would ever happen :)

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:20 PM

mornin guys, catching up

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:23 PM

are there only 13 hours left? seriously?

i wasnt goign to be back on but will check in later. Can we have 36 hour days instead please?

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:30 PM

View PostSpite, on 08 December 2009 - 04:18 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 08 December 2009 - 04:14 PM, said:

Aye, the disappearance of text thing has happened to me, too. I blame the forum upgrade. See my comment above.However, I expect O-Ren to have a henchman as well (the bald eighty-eight ball), maybe Bill, too - dopesn't seem too far of a stretch of Vipers knowing one another, either. Moreover, lynching anyone who defends someone else is just going to ensure no-one will speak up against ridiculous cases as that may be seen as symping, leading to trains full of sheep out for self-preservation.


dude - i didnt say that.  Seriously, we have to make cases and deciding on day 1 before anyone has even done any defending that making cases based on that is off limits just in case one of the vipers has henchmen as you put it is frankly ridiculous and you know it.  So chill your bags and agree to disagree.  I took offense to the way you worded somethign about the way i worded something and i heading off now so much as i enjoy pissing contests they have a habit of seeing people lynched for no other reason than everyone else sits back and does nothing while they are going on.

remove vote

you say potato - i say lynch the bride first if we find both :p



with that I can agree :)

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:38 PM

View PostSpite, on 08 December 2009 - 04:23 PM, said:

are there only 13 hours left? seriously?

i wasnt goign to be back on but will check in later. Can we have 36 hour days instead please?


No! Suck it up!
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:39 PM

It is Day 1. 12 hours, 41 minutes remain.

18 players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan

1 Vote Fener (Olar Ethil)

Not voted: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan


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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:42 PM

right, well doesnt seem like much has happened. clarification on the rules is good and im always in favour of a bit of speculation towards the existance of roles.

its hard to speculate on what PB would make for a game, but i find it less likely that Karen, Pai Mei, or th efiance would be in the game as they're all dead or gone already in the plot, only present in flashbacks. Though i suppose Karen isnt dead, hey may be she could be the Assassin...?

other lesser roles could be GoGo (the little asian girl with the meteor hammer), Sophie (the girl who gets de-limbed) and the policeman who investigates the shooting and finds the bride alive (could be one of the brides allies)

mostly i think the brides allies would be Hanzo (guard? heal?) and Estevan (finder?) but it all depends on PBs crazyness

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:52 PM

Haven't you heard? I'm batshit loco!
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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:56 PM

Here and Catchin up.

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