[Path-Shaper]

alt is so on the money here... hard to see his team not winning unless they take an unlucky kill.

D, on 11 December 2009 - 06:12 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 10 December 2009 - 09:59 PM, said:

Yes, Karat is required to put in that action because it's his action.

That's what I figured. I am going to be very,very busy starting in about four hours, got a five hour drive straight after work and a party to go to as soon as I arrive, so I very likely wont be back until Saturday sometime. You said no modkills, but I'd like to ask for an extension just to be safe.

Also, Sorrit is a Viper a Kalse is likely Bill. Korbas may be Bill's symp or something similar, since he knew Kalse was likely to pull a kill. This game is going very badly for town with those people in the spotlight. We may end up having to throw our lot in with the Bride, but we'll see how things go. Provisional is still NO VIG for now.

D, on 11 December 2009 - 05:30 AM, said:

If Korbas is telling the truth, Kalse is Bill, it explains why you got the message intended for Bill... Lol, we now know two of the three remaining Vipers. We really need to get a handle on who the assassin is and we can probably end this game damn quick.

Baudin is a bit tipsy...

Alkend, on 11 December 2009 - 04:17 AM, said:

yep, as apparently i wasnt the only one who thought he was hiding something The thing is Korbas revealing like that might have clued in some healers. damn now im just WIFOMing myself :S think il go to bed, too drunk for this deep thinking
oh yeah, keep it on Korbas, ignore my rambling

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 06:15 AM, said:

Whoa whoa... you just said "Keep it on Korbas" but your provisional is on KALSE. Based on your phrasing and your drunkenness, I am interpreting your provisional to still be on KALSE.

[Dinivan]

let the mayham begin

Karatallid, on 11 December 2009 - 01:39 PM, said:

Alright, so I wake up,make a bowl of cereal, and sit down to catch up, fully expecting there to be some sort of mention of my case on Bargy, or at the least someone suspicious of my reveal. Yet here we are sitting around with our thumbs up our collective arses, trying to figure out this cluster fuck of a reveal. For the record, please draw your attention to the fact that Bargy keeps ignoring the fact that Mockra is symping (or hell even fake symping) him. And Mockra laughs off my accusations. Anyway I am going to be off and on, not sure if I will make the deadline, but Im sticking with my vote.

Also - Whoever said that I argued with them over if the vipers could communicate (Sorrit?), I still think that they at least know each other. Or at least know who Bill is, and so can follow his lead to not kill each other. Anyway, I have to go, I'll be back a little later.

but I wonder about the last paragraph - he should've inferred from Sorrit/Elle's message that they don't know Bill.

And I'd love it if Charlie Brown + wife would win


ETA: and the reveal party continues...

This post has been edited by Dinivan: 11 December 2009 - 03:00 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Man things are so good on the thread right now! I think Tapper may be doomed, and if Bill is outed, D'rek's going to be in good shape since she can't be killed at all. It will be up to the Bride and Pai Mei to whittle down the innos to start getting some of the neutral players interested in possibly getting Bill killed.

Of course, Alkend could just set up Bill for the possession, that would do him in.

Tapper knows he's probably doomed.

Korbas, on 11 December 2009 - 08:24 AM, said:

Man man man.
I dug myself a hole in the ground in epic traditional day 2 syndrome, only belatedly.
Gaah.

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 04:04 PM, said:

Poor Tapper, it's quite the pickle you're in. =(

Silencer's been having fun... elsewhere.

Fener, on 11 December 2009 - 10:16 AM, said:

Been having so much fun, then one set of 24 hour party, and then an overnight stay on an island tomorrow ruins my play style. :S

Ah well, have to pick it up on Sunday evening if I can, or if I'm still alive/game still going.

alt and Bent strategize on where their ultimate loyalties may lie to win.

D, on 11 December 2009 - 07:50 AM, said:

Ok Korbas has claimed BB and that Kalse is Bill. Not in as many words, but that's what he is saying. Thing is though, he's going to carry on driving a train against Sorrit. So we have a tough decision. You can save Sorrit and back up Korbas's story by revealing you got that message meant for Bill. Thing is though, that leaves two out of the three Vipers out in the open. So all we're really doing is giving the town one extra day/night cycle before there is only one viper remaining. So it's definitely not worth me revealing you got the message. The other option is to semi-side with the bride now already and help push the lynch against Sorrit. The main problem with that is we still dont really have any idea who the assassin is and we need him dead asap. I'm also not sure what will happen if all the Vipers die before the assassin does. If that is the case all of the town no longer have a win condition so the game is going to implode a little.

Karatallid, on 11 December 2009 - 12:43 PM, said:

Yeah, but dont forget that if the bride kills all of the vipers, and bill, and we remain alive, we win. So Im going to wishy washy vote Sorrit, and rail at Bargy some more. I put the bp on myself (you were right about me having the control of that power). I imagine that if the vipers all die before the assassin does, the Bride wins and game over. At least thats how the OP reads.

Thursday is really trying to figure out what to do with his kill...

Sorrit, on 11 December 2009 - 12:27 PM, said:

Hmm, well it seems I was overestimating the strength of Korbas' case. That's nice . Now I just have to figure out what to do with that kill I've got floating around tonight.

Sorrit, on 11 December 2009 - 12:58 PM, said:

I've had a PM open to you for about 20 minutes, but I keep changing my mind on who I'm going to kill tonight. Enervating. So many choices...I'd go with Korbas, but I'm having doubts about whether he was actually making all that up now. The fact that he actually picked the real Bill as target of his scheme...maybe he's the other viper, trying to defend his leader. It would then make sense if he'd switched the actions of Kalse and myself on Night 1...

Problem is there really isn't anything convincing me at the moment.

Sorrit, on 11 December 2009 - 01:16 PM, said:

Hi P-S,

Here's my message to Bill tonight. I haven't decided who I'm going to kill, so I left that section blank. Eventually I will submit a provisional of the form "Kill X. If X is lynched, Kill Y." Any chance you could fill in the xxxx and yyyy sections in the message once I've submitted that provisional? Or will I need to resubmit the message to you?

Sir Thursday

------------------------------------------------

So I've been thinking about Korbas' reveal, and the only way I can make sense of it is if he knows that you are Bill. He is actually coming to your defence by attacking me like this, because he thinks I tried to kill you last night and now I'm closing in. If you have any way of contacting him and telling him that's not the case, please do so! (This hypothesis also fits with the way he backed down in the convo with Spite on Day 1).

If he's the final viper, then hopefully that means that we can get started on trying to find the scum in the rest of the bunch. Tonight I have submitted a kill on xxxx (if he is lynched, then yyyy). Really not sure what to make of the game at the moment - I tried crossing off who I thought was inno and circling who I thought was scummy, but couldn't come up with much at all. Probably not Karatillid...but that's about it. Any thoughts one who seems scummy/inno to you?

Also, what sort of abilities do you have? My full list of abilities is as follows: Text Message (I can send this to you every night), Cyclops (It takes one vote less than usual to lynch me because I only have one eye) and Kill (I get to kill every other night).

Obdi is going to make Ment an INCREDIBLY easy target to lynch... -3

Shadow, on 11 December 2009 - 02:49 PM, said:

Change my provisional to Olar Ethil please. Thanks.

Alkend still looking to waste his time on the unkillable Bill. Still, can't really blame him.

Alkend, on 11 December 2009 - 03:30 PM, said:

Damn if their telling the truth then boy did i pick a good target last night
I have no idea what this recruit thing that Kalse is going on about is though as i dont remember anything in my PM about it.
Makes me wonder if something will happen to my role though if the child does die. Hmmm im gonn ahave to think about this.
Obviously keep the provisional on Kalse (got it right that time )
(oh and the FM provisional can stay on Karat for now)

Alkend, on 11 December 2009 - 03:32 PM, said:

Hmmmm well if Kalse is Bill, then im thinking Sorrit might be someone important based on Kalse defending him massively. Or Kalse just went for the mother of fake reveals

Alkend, on 11 December 2009 - 04:01 PM, said:

ok wtf is this about me having to recruit the child the only way i can think of is targetting for a kill So for now im going to ignore that and try and kill people

[Path-Shaper]

Rashan with a set of actions... looks like Shin's number may be up as he is on the the lynch train.

Rashan, on 11 December 2009 - 04:38 PM, said:

Hope I'm not to late

Kill Mockra if he is on the lynch

if not Kill Olar if he is on the Lynch

in kill Shadow if he is on the Lynch

Obdi has hit the jackpot and he's pretty sure of it... but I don't think Baudin has gotten the clue yet. He's too focused on Bill. Probably will take another night for him to "get it."

Shadow, on 11 December 2009 - 04:39 PM, said:

I'm hoping Sorrit is a viper, and I spelled it out for Baudin to kill him, but we will see.

To bad about the Kid, hopefully people don't make it on for a lynch, that would be awesome.

Or they stop and wait for you thinking its a lynch since my vote dosen't count. That would be awesome too.

Good thing I missed last nights deadline for action!

Baudin may be in BIG trouble here... The Dude has changed his provisional! The Bride may be moving to Bent tonight(!) As it stands, Alkend has not yet voted for Korbas, but Baudin may have no choice but to add his vote at some point... this will be a potentially huge move, and should provide an awesome 'scene' if Korbas is simultaneously lynched.

Rashan, on 11 December 2009 - 04:42 PM, said:

oops sorry:

Kill Alkend if he is on the lynch

kill Mockra if he is on the lynch

Kill olar if he is on the lynch.

In that order


If there is some weird dynamic that happens that puts it to night w/o a lynch, kill Barghast.

The curtain appears to be closing on Tapper and he knows it... but his alt guessing skills need some work.

Korbas, on 11 December 2009 - 04:44 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 04:04 PM, said:

Poor Tapper, it's quite the pickle you're in. =(

Well, shit happens. It was a huge risk I took, and I understand GKs decision to reveal me.

Baudin checks his abilities.

Alkend, on 11 December 2009 - 04:58 PM, said:

i get the multi kill thing next night right? so i only have one target today

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 05:00 PM, said:

Correct. You only have one kill tonight. Still on Kalse, as I have it.

[Path-Shaper]

Baudin waffling a bit... but Tapper's at L-2 (and Fener may vote him off with his double if he's around). Will he 'get it' before the lynch?

Alkend, on 11 December 2009 - 05:03 PM, said:

Yeah im not sure whether to move it because he will likely be healed or keep it their as he really does have to die :S . here one thing when i get the 2 kill thing can i try and kill one person twice?

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 05:08 PM, said:

Yes, you can try to double up your kills, if you wish.

Oh and talk about dodging a fucking bullet... this was a matrix-style dodge from Rashan's 11th hour swap. Alas, Mentalist is gone, and town loses a double vote.

Rashan, on 11 December 2009 - 05:05 PM, said:

Sorry... I don't want Olar snooping around.

Kill Olar Ethil tonight. I can Wiofm away anything that ppl bring up about his suspects.

It's kinda fun playing a cluless ninny on thread... lol I just pretend I'm a 12 year old.

Baudin keeps the Kalse kill, which will do no good.

Alkend, on 11 December 2009 - 05:10 PM, said:

think il just stick to throwing one at Kalse just in case an don eat other random people , though the double thing is good to get through a BP, possibly over kill on normal people though (woul dlike to see a scene of someone dying twice )

Alkend, on 11 December 2009 - 05:10 PM, said:

Also i like how apparently these people know more about my role than i do. finds?

Alkend, on 11 December 2009 - 05:11 PM, said:

Also i dont suppose you could tell me how i was supposed to recruit Korbas given that hes going to die anyway?

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 05:14 PM, said:

I can tell you, but I'll have to kill you =D

the Dude apologizes for his changes, but his logic is completely sound! He should also know how much I hate finders.

Rashan, on 11 December 2009 - 05:11 PM, said:

sorry for all the changes...

I've been looking at this game all wrong. very up tight. very un-dude-like.

I had been looking for the bride... but I realized.. my goal is killing EVERYONE. I can't be Nk'd. I need the bride to work for me. She can kill all the vipers for all I care. At some point she is going to have to run a lynch train on me and i have NEVER (knock on wood) been lynched in a game of Malaz. mafia. I am always NK'd. I need Olar dead because the less suspicion on me the better. I really just need to stay out of the limelight and use the bride as an ally. I need her to kill for me cause the sooner ppl die, the less i have to lie. I just had a Pai mei revelation...
poor poor suckers!! mwahahahahahahahahahaahah!!! (here's hoping there is no finder )

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 05:12 PM, said:

lol, glad you had a revelation.

Don't worry about changes, either. I love seeing people's thought processes evolve over time.

Haha, Eloth is switching Kalse with OE... Mentalist is going to get doubly fucked over tonight. Sorry Ment =(

Eloth, on 11 December 2009 - 05:13 PM, said:

Every day I live is getting important now. I have no idea if one of the missing kills is on GL or not, but he's starting to look like he'll be last Viper standing at this rate. He's playing it loose as well, not sure why in particular he is. I think he knows about me but I am yet to be convinced to be honest. Strange he seemed to say I'm Rashan's master, I am unsure what to make of it exactly.


Korbas stole my plan, I was planning to reveal and use my switch to protect myself and soak up some kills. God damn annoying that he got there first and he was more important than me which makes it even more annoying.


Anyway
Switch Kalse with Olar Ethil.

[Path-Shaper]

Silly Baudin, can't figure out what to do!

Alkend, on 11 December 2009 - 05:16 PM, said:

no fair
Korbas just brought up a good point about HP though, i noticed it earlier as well. Hmmm its hard to pick particular power roles when everyones acting like they have them (probably because they do )

[Path-Shaper]

Eloth knows that staying alive is key right now!

Eloth, on 11 December 2009 - 05:20 PM, said:

Well first priority the team win. And me soaking up NK's would have been great for the team. Now me staying alive is the preferred option and sheltering GL till we actually get scum.

And if Thursday doesn't hurry up, he's not going to have a kill tonight.

D'rek slightly amends the message to Sorrit.

Kalse, on 11 December 2009 - 05:22 PM, said:

Okay so change my actions:

Message for Elle:

Quote

I was going to tell you all about Korbas in this message but that's been covered. I'll try to keep you from getting exposed/lynched, but in a sense the suspicion on you will hopefully make the scum look elsewhere. If possible you may want to try and clarify the reflection/action-redirection bit you were talking about, which I gather you got from what I said in the last message. Just say something like you got the result of an action you didn't/couldn't perform (try to seem RI) on night 1 so knew something weird was up. If Korbas reveals he targetted you on Night 1 before he is lynched, that may help your case too.

I'll try to keep you un-lynched as best I can without overtly symping you.

Also, I'm vigging Barghast tonight.

and still vig Barghast (backup still Fener).

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 11 December 2009 - 05:23 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Sorrit finally gets an action in.

Sorrit, on 11 December 2009 - 05:31 PM, said:

Kill Barghast. If Barghast is lynched, kill Eloth.

Drek can't decide on a message!

Kalse, on 11 December 2009 - 05:34 PM, said:

Changing message again:

Quote

I was going to tell you all about Korbas in this message but that's been covered.

I'll try to keep you from getting exposed/lynched, but in a sense the suspicion on you will hopefully make the scum look elsewhere. If possible you may want to try and clarify the reflection/action-redirection bit you were talking about, which I gather you got from what I said in the last message. Since Korbas has revealed he targeted us on night 1, and people already know im bill, try something like how you got a message intended for me on night 1 and therefore knew something was a bit amiss, but try to make it seem like you're just an RI so hopefully the won't go for you. As you can tell, I'm trying to hide that I can talk to you, or for that matter anyone, as it'll end up exposing you and they'll kill you.

I'll try to keep you un-lynched as best I can without overtly symping you.

Also, I'm vigging Barghast tonight.

Hilarious... Right now we have two 'scum' killing Olar Ethil, and a third 'scum' trying to harm Olar with the negative vote.

Then we have two 'town leaders' killing Barghast. Talk about some hate!

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 11 December 2009 - 05:37 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Thursday finds a funny from Tapper.

Sorrit, on 11 December 2009 - 05:58 PM, said:

This made me laugh:

Korbas, on 11 December 2009 - 04:50 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 11 December 2009 - 04:47 PM, said:

And to think that all this started because Korbas wanted to make a case on Sorritt.

If it turns out she's another Viper, this game will go down in history.

I do not count towards the bride's victory conditions.
If Sorrit does, then I'll not play mafia for the remainder of the year as I definately need a break then.

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 06:04 PM, said:

Me too

[Path-Shaper]

Impirion blocks his nemesis Thursday... thinking Thursday may be The Bride. He is not. It doesn't save Mentalist however =(

Liosan, on 11 December 2009 - 06:10 PM, said:

Hey PB,

Could I please use one of my guards on Sorrit tonight? Thanks!

Imp

[Path-Shaper]

Impirion doesn't realize that today is a bad day for the town, even though Bill is outed. They are running out of members, with lots of 'indies' still alive and kicking!

Liosan, on 11 December 2009 - 06:19 PM, said:

I am sooo confused by this game, no idea where the scum are. I sure hope to hell we have some healers on our team or we are fucked, since Bill's been revealed...

Imp

Thursday changes his message.

Sorrit, on 11 December 2009 - 06:23 PM, said:

OK, I think I need to change the message:

Shame you had to reveal . Going to be difficult to keep you alive now. Can you tell me what abilities you have? I'm writing this hurriedly as I don't have much time before the lynch is achieved. I targetted Barghast tonight. Also, Karatallid knows who I am, since he got the message I sent to you on Day 2. Sir Thursday


Gracias!

Still no change from stubborn Baudin... not that it matters with the swap to Olar.

Alkend, on 11 December 2009 - 06:24 PM, said:

definitely decided now, kill Kalse
now time to have foo d:P

[Path-Shaper]

Alkend--Kill: Kalse (swaps to Olar Ethil, Olar Ethil dies)
HP--Bestow Kill: Karatallid (granted)
Korbas--Mischief: Kalse <> Liosan (fails, lynched)
Shadow--Sushi: Olar Ethil (swaps to Kalse, succeeds)
Karat--Bestow BP: Karat (succeeds)
Rashan--Kill (only works if target is on lynch train): Olar Ethil (swaps to Kalse, fails as Kalse is BP)
Bill--Kill: Barghast > Fener (Succeeds, Barghast dies)
Eloth: Mischief: Kalse <> Olar Ethil (Succeeds)
Bill--message for Elle (message goes to Sorrit):
I was going to tell you all about Korbas in this message but that's been covered.

I'll try to keep you from getting exposed/lynched, but in a sense the suspicion on you will hopefully make the scum look elsewhere. If possible you may want to try and clarify the reflection/action-redirection bit you were talking about, which I gather you got from what I said in the last message. Since Korbas has revealed he targeted us on night 1, and people already know im bill, try something like how you got a message intended for me on night 1 and therefore knew something was a bit amiss, but try to make it seem like you're just an RI so hopefully the won't go for you. As you can tell, I'm trying to hide that I can talk to you, or for that matter anyone, as it'll end up exposing you and they'll kill you.

I'll try to keep you un-lynched as best I can without overtly symping you.

Also, I'm vigging Barghast tonight.
(end message)

Sorrit--Kill (every other night): Barghast > Eloth (fails, guarded)
Sorrit--message for Bill (message is lost as the target was swapped and Olar Ethil dies, also fails due to being guarded):
Shame you had to reveal . Going to be difficult to keep you alive now. Can you tell me what abilities you have? I'm writing this hurriedly as I don't have much time before the lynch is achieved. I targetted Barghast tonight. Also, Karatallid knows who I am, since he got the message I sent to you on Day 2. Sir Thursday
(end message)

Liosan--Guard (1 remaining after this): Sorrit (succeeds)

Olar and Barghat die. Sorrit gets Kalse's message. Karat gains a kill. Kalse requires 1 less vote to lynch.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 11 December 2009 - 06:34 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Tapper, Gwynn, and Ment, welcome to spoilers. Great game all of you. Gwynn, you were doing very well considering the time zone differential, hope you'll play more games with us

Let me know what you guys think of the set up!

---

Liosan is too late to change his mind.

Liosan, on 11 December 2009 - 06:30 PM, said:

Actually, can I guard Shadow instead?

Thanks!

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 06:31 PM, said:

Too late, the lynching vote was cast 2 minutes ago.

Liosan, on 11 December 2009 - 06:36 PM, said:

Ah okies, sadfaces

Imp

Obdi continues his dominating mental game.

Shadow, on 11 December 2009 - 06:33 PM, said:

So if Korbas needs 1 extra to lynch, and my vote dosen't count. The lynch count is 9, and he has 10 votes including mine, are you sure he is lynched?

Just verifying as it would mean someone has a doublevote.

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 06:36 PM, said:

You are very clever Obdi

Korbas is definitely lynched. I have triple-checked.

Shadow, on 11 December 2009 - 06:37 PM, said:

Thank you sir, just wishing to verify.

At this time, for spoiler prosperity, I wish to speculate that Bill (Kalse) has the doublevote.

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 06:40 PM, said:

So speculated.

Thursday is right here. He has nothing to worry about tonight.

Sorrit, on 11 December 2009 - 06:37 PM, said:

Now that means there won't be any scum targetting me tonight, since they probably all think I'm the likeliest lynch target for tomorrow. Just hope I don't draw a guard...though I imagine Kalse will be getting all the attention.


Sir Thursday

[Path-Shaper]

lol Obdi... crackes me up.

Shadow, on 11 December 2009 - 06:43 PM, said:

So either my sticky sushi was stupendiously spitefull stinky sushi, or I WILL NEVER GET TO SLIP SOMEONE MY WARM COD, as they all die first. Perhaps I shall pull a Tiste Simeon and slip it to them anyway? Nay, I cannot!

Weekend break yay/nay?

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 06:44 PM, said:

rofl...

Most likely I'll allow the game to run over the weekend without timers.

alt adds more to his convo with Bent.

D, on 11 December 2009 - 06:43 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 11 December 2009 - 12:43 PM, said:

D, on 11 December 2009 - 07:50 AM, said:

Ok Korbas has claimed BB and that Kalse is Bill. Not in as many words, but that's what he is saying. Thing is though, he's going to carry on driving a train against Sorrit. So we have a tough decision. You can save Sorrit and back up Korbas's story by revealing you got that message meant for Bill. Thing is though, that leaves two out of the three Vipers out in the open. So all we're really doing is giving the town one extra day/night cycle before there is only one viper remaining. So it's definitely not worth me revealing you got the message. The other option is to semi-side with the bride now already and help push the lynch against Sorrit. The main problem with that is we still dont really have any idea who the assassin is and we need him dead asap. I'm also not sure what will happen if all the Vipers die before the assassin does. If that is the case all of the town no longer have a win condition so the game is going to implode a little.

Yeah, but dont forget that if the bride kills all of the vipers, and bill, and we remain alive, we win. So Im going to wishy washy vote Sorrit, and rail at Bargy some more. I put the bp on myself (you were right about me having the control of that power). I imagine that if the vipers all die before the assassin does, the Bride wins and game over. At least thats how the OP reads.

I'm pretty sure it says the bride has to kill the assassin too. To be honest though I think the Bride has a much better chance at this point, so I will probably vote Sorrit too if the thread hasn't changed completely since I left. BP on you is perfect, you're much more likely to draw a NK than I am.

Sorrit facepalms at the night result.

Sorrit, on 11 December 2009 - 06:44 PM, said:

Geez, we had to pick the same person to kill, didn't we? That's very annoying. And now I can't kill until Night 5...that's going to be a loooong wait.

Looks like I managed to tug the crotchety Bent's heartstrings a little... ah, I love my job. He also responds to getting a kill.

Karatallid, on 11 December 2009 - 06:46 PM, said:

sweet!

Good game so far PB. And great scene...I was near tears!

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 06:47 PM, said:

Glad you like it

Oh, and FYI, you may use that kill in addition to your regular ability, should you decide to use it.

Baudin is using his rampage to go after Kalse some more... as well as now hitting Eloth. OUCH the town is in trouble!

Alkend, on 11 December 2009 - 06:46 PM, said:

so i have 2 kills now?
provisional kill Kalse and Eloth

D'rek panicks realizing how lynchable she's going to be...

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 06:43 PM, said:

You now require one less vote to lynch than before.

This means you currently need the normal number of votes to lynch.

Kalse, on 11 December 2009 - 06:48 PM, said:

but a deadly viper didn't die...

so now that im at normal if more vipers die am i gonna need less than the normal # of votes to get lynched???

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 06:49 PM, said:

Correct, a viper didn't die.

And correct, you will still be 'more lynchable' every time a viper dies.

[Path-Shaper]

Bent shares the good news with alt

Karatallid, on 11 December 2009 - 06:48 PM, said:

I just got this

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 06:42 PM, said:

You have gained a one-time kill that you may use during any night phase.

And I might have messed up by saying cereal in my post......I have an explanation if needed, but I'm gonna NOT vote for Sorritt, and defend STD when I post again, if my post becomes an issue (since Kalse was outted as a possible Bill) I will say that I intercepted the message, and acted on it to make sure that the real Bill was not targeted by a fake pm.

D'rek knows the voting thing will be an issue down the road.

Kalse, on 11 December 2009 - 06:50 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 06:49 PM, said:

Correct, a viper didn't die.

And correct, you will still be 'more lynchable' every time a viper dies.

mmk. Hmm, wonder if it was BB or Sofie.. or an enemy action. that would suck.

I guess I'm not gonna reveal this cause if people knew and it came down to 5 people with me needing only one or 2 votes to lynch... bad stuff.

[Path-Shaper]

alt146 is thinking that Sorrit may be a good target for a kill... more yikes for the town!

D, on 11 December 2009 - 06:56 PM, said:

Still catching up - Kalse revealed as Bill pretty much, which we know was true.

One of us could just vig sorrit tonight? If the lynch goes through early enough STD might not be back in time to make some sort of accusation against you and noone will know. It depends. I still think with Bill now outed our chances are better with the bride. If we do vig though, you should use yours, since you'll be safe from the reflection mechanic we know is in play.

[Path-Shaper]

D'rek thinks I need professional help. Hard to argue with that!

Kalse, on 11 December 2009 - 07:02 PM, said:

Well despite now appearing to be a monstrous infanticider, I still got my NK impermeability, so I'm still in a good mood. Worst comes to worst if Sorrit's gotta reveal I can tell healers to heal him instead without worrying about myself.

Path-Shaper, on 11 December 2009 - 07:03 PM, said:

lol, you think I'm sick, don't you?

I thought about something where you called in Child Protective Services, or maybe you sent her off to summer camp, but in the end, the allure of tragedy in a game like this was just too much temptation to pass up.

Kalse, on 11 December 2009 - 07:06 PM, said:

I'm glad you went with the tragic, emotional scene. I'm just horrified by the mental images I was conjuring exactly as I read it... it was great though.

alt thinks they missed a shot at killing Sorrit due to showing up a bit late for the lynch... there's always next time.

D, on 11 December 2009 - 07:04 PM, said:

Dammit, just missed our chance to kill Sorrit it seems. Hopefully he doesnt bring up the cereal thing, your plan should work OK if he does though. Besides, he will have to out himself as a Viper to do so, so it's unlikely.

Bent doesn't realize that Sorrit already knows who Kalse is due to the message going the other way.

Karatallid, on 11 December 2009 - 07:08 PM, said:

I also think my symping him will help keep him from outing me (he may even attack Kalse,lol).

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 11 December 2009 - 07:09 PM

[Korbas]

Love all the roles, but just a tiny bit too many indies/ potential rogues, i think - although that could also be because of how the game went for town. I had expected that town was firmly town, not filled with additional vcs, especially with the kill-upon-reveal to balance it and prevent a revealfest.

Also, I know you said the other day that you experienced the power of even a single BP in the Spycraft game, and look what you did
All in all, I think D'rek has a stronger position today than she did have before - might actually be that no-one will dare to lynch her - if not for those indies - if those step out, it's going to be really tough. Also, is it me or did she change her punctuation?
Also, no more mafia for me in 2009......

All in all, a great game and I think this was the very best outcome for my role, actually, now that I have seen Bills NK immunity. I am just incredibly worried by how insanely wrong I was. Maybe I should stick to modding only.

[Korbas]

oh, and that scene.... amazing.

[Path-Shaper]

Thanks, Tap, I love the critique. I am pretty happy with how I designed it, but I think several elements were somewhat reactionary to spycraft. We had lots of night actions in Spycraft and I didn't like copying them much so I tried to use a lot that weren't used often (swapping, extra/less/double/no votes).

I also am firmly aware of what I said about BPs, but decided to see what would happen if you give 3 players (one from each time) full protection. How would players adapt to it? Would they hammer away thinking it was a 1-time use?

The number of protection mechanics is a large part of why I have so many rogue characters in the game. Essentially, it's town vs scum. Town has a lot of power and the numbers, but should things not go their way (as they haven't much this game), the extra factions could throw their weight around a bit.

Hope you had fun, Tapper. Sorry you had to go so early, but someone has to go ;(