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Mafia 53: Twilight | Game Thread Vampires and Werewolves and Zombies, oh my!

#1141 User is offline   Meanas 

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:23 PM

View PostOlar Ethil, on 28 October 2009 - 04:20 PM, said:

To me, it seems fairly obvious that Omtose was a member of Coven too, perhaps just as a regular symp but as he's the only player dead so far that could be the other member, well it seems a pretty simple deduction to me. In old vampire lore, a zombie is a half turned vampire btb.


Ahhh now this is something I didn't know. I will have to agree, in that case, as Felicity is an Irish name and if a zombie is a half vamp then she's likely an Irish vamp symp.

#1142 User is offline   Telas 

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:29 PM

View PostD, on 28 October 2009 - 03:53 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on 28 October 2009 - 03:42 PM, said:

Right, but 2 of those were 7 were lynched off, and we have no real confirmation that it was Serc who killed Tellan (and by extension, the unborn Renesmee). So if it was a faction of one, it was struggling on its own, so I'm not that convinced it was one person. And really, why would you call it a 'Coven' if it was only one person?


Perhaps the other coven members were recruited? We are only guessing that it is town only that can be recruited. Indeed from the earlier scene it looks like one of the wolves has gone missing.


I already addressed this possibility and said that in terms of the standard mythos of vampires and werewolves, it didn't make a lot of sense for Coven vampires to be 'recruited' by werewolves or other vamps.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:32 PM

So Olar who would you say I was?

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:35 PM

View PostMeanas, on 28 October 2009 - 04:23 PM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 28 October 2009 - 04:20 PM, said:

To me, it seems fairly obvious that Omtose was a member of Coven too, perhaps just as a regular symp but as he's the only player dead so far that could be the other member, well it seems a pretty simple deduction to me. In old vampire lore, a zombie is a half turned vampire btb.


Ahhh now this is something I didn't know. I will have to agree, in that case, as Felicity is an Irish name and if a zombie is a half vamp then she's likely an Irish vamp symp.


Except we now that the CF for Serc was amended and his name is actually KATE, not Maggie.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:35 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 28 October 2009 - 04:32 PM, said:

So Olar who would you say I was?


*shrug*

I'm not trying to find which faction you're in. To me that would be futile until we get a dead werewolf and a dead evil vampire to draw lines from.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:39 PM

View PostMeanas, on 28 October 2009 - 04:21 PM, said:

BEST SCENE EVAR!!!!!

Ahem.

Well, I'll eat my words with a side of brown rice, please. You were right (although possibly by wrong reasoning) about Serc, and well done nailing the Coven. However, I find it strange that a whole faction is eliminated and yet only 1 person is dead from it. Now, its possible any other coven members will be distributed among other factions, or among the other 2 vampire factions, or even that we'll be given their CFs come day break. But its still odd that their end leaves no trail of blood. Just 1 splatter and...nada. I'm off to lunch, be back when I can.

I personally find your potential scenario to be extremely unlikely. Cullen got worked hard by a rookie mistake, yet clearly since we haven't seen a 'Cullen are destroyed' message, it doesn't seem possible that they were 'redistributed' into the other factions. Coven were 3 kills from winning, why should we assume that they'd have other members get moved around?

If you remember the Lies game, Dibs and Obdi were the power players on their faction and both got lynched off Days 1 and 2 and that faction was disseminated to the other factions and that caused some anguish after the game because two factions got an extra member and a 3rd faction got nothing because they had already started with a slightly higher amount.

So I really doubt the faction was broken up. They seem unequivocally destroyed.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:40 PM

Also looks like it's past the night time out so hopefully someone upstairs will kindly resolve.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:42 PM

yeah, I'm waiting for that too. I must say this new timezone is annoying

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:43 PM

View PostTelas, on 28 October 2009 - 04:35 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on 28 October 2009 - 04:23 PM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 28 October 2009 - 04:20 PM, said:

To me, it seems fairly obvious that Omtose was a member of Coven too, perhaps just as a regular symp but as he's the only player dead so far that could be the other member, well it seems a pretty simple deduction to me. In old vampire lore, a zombie is a half turned vampire btb.


Ahhh now this is something I didn't know. I will have to agree, in that case, as Felicity is an Irish name and if a zombie is a half vamp then she's likely an Irish vamp symp.


Except we now that the CF for Serc was amended and his name is actually KATE, not Maggie.


Kate is still an Irish name. A very popular one at that. Trust me, I have a fairly specialized field of knowledge here, having a long Irish family history. Damn Scottish sheep police, chasing the old ancestors onto that God forsaken rock, all those dr00ds and the shit. Finally got away when the potatoes started dying.

@Telas, actually I don't remember that game. I kind of fucked up and got killed off rather early, after which I sorta disappeared for a while. I don't even know who won :D
besides, that's meta. My theory is what I thought worked for this game.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:44 PM

View PostTelas, on 28 October 2009 - 04:39 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on 28 October 2009 - 04:21 PM, said:

BEST SCENE EVAR!!!!!

Ahem.

Well, I'll eat my words with a side of brown rice, please. You were right (although possibly by wrong reasoning) about Serc, and well done nailing the Coven. However, I find it strange that a whole faction is eliminated and yet only 1 person is dead from it. Now, its possible any other coven members will be distributed among other factions, or among the other 2 vampire factions, or even that we'll be given their CFs come day break. But its still odd that their end leaves no trail of blood. Just 1 splatter and...nada. I'm off to lunch, be back when I can.

I personally find your potential scenario to be extremely unlikely. Cullen got worked hard by a rookie mistake, yet clearly since we haven't seen a 'Cullen are destroyed' message, it doesn't seem possible that they were 'redistributed' into the other factions. Coven were 3 kills from winning, why should we assume that they'd have other members get moved around?

If you remember the Lies game, Dibs and Obdi were the power players on their faction and both got lynched off Days 1 and 2 and that faction was disseminated to the other factions and that caused some anguish after the game because two factions got an extra member and a 3rd faction got nothing because they had already started with a slightly higher amount.

So I really doubt the faction was broken up. They seem unequivocally destroyed.


Oh, wait THAT one, ok, ya, I won XD. I was thinking of the King of Hell game. *await's Shin's vote*

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:51 PM

View PostMeanas, on 28 October 2009 - 04:43 PM, said:

Kate is still an Irish name. A very popular one at that. Trust me, I have a fairly specialized field of knowledge here, having a long Irish family history. Damn Scottish sheep police, chasing the old ancestors onto that God forsaken rock, all those dr00ds and the shit. Finally got away when the potatoes started dying.

@Telas, actually I don't remember that game. I kind of fucked up and got killed off rather early, after which I sorta disappeared for a while. I don't even know who won :D
besides, that's meta. My theory is what I thought worked for this game.

Yeah that may be the case but Kate isn't in the Irish Coven. She's in the Denali Coven, as I earlier quote posted from Wikipedia, and Denali is a place in Alaska. Wikipedia says:

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In the Twilight Saga by Stephenie Meyer,the Denali vampire coven (consisiting of Tanya, Kate, Irina, Elezar andCarmen) lives in Denali because of the lack of sunlight.

so I don't know how any Irish ties would fit.

Also, Barsavi faction won that game. Peanutbutta, morgoth45, Vengeance (he was brought in from the destroyed faction), bwgan, HoosierDaddy, and Tapper.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:59 PM

Well, the Alaskan CF'ed as a foreigner. And where they live is surely somewhat irrelevant considering their reasons for living there

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:59 PM

So...is it the Denali or Irish coven we're dealing with then? Omg, this Maggie shit is screwing with my head.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 05:02 PM

I'd say it's just a generic coven of foreign vampires, who either started with one member and a zombie and we got mad lucky to get them both in the span of a single day, or it was a small group of vampires who somehow got broken apart via recruitment. I doubt it matters if it was a Irish or Denali coven, but if I had to pick one, I'd go with Denali based upon Serc's CF.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 05:02 PM

come on PS..

and hi Varen

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 05:07 PM

Ya...I suppose that's a possibility. Maybe D'rek's read more of the books than she says?

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 05:09 PM

Long night is loooong.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 05:10 PM

perhaps she's a closet twitard

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 05:10 PM

Bring dawn, sparkle some vampires back into their holes.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 05:14 PM

AUGH, I have class in an hour! I want DAY!!!!!

ETA: :D :p :p :D :p B)

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