[Emurlahn]

Oh forgot to mention they are also irish vampires. THat from searching the twilight wiki.

[Emurlahn]

The coven according to the wiki are:

The Irish Coven is a vampire coven located somewhere in Ireland. Its members are Siobhan, Liam, and Maggie with Siobhan being the leader. They are not vegetarian but they are a civilized coven.

[Emurlahn]

So it looks like Omtose wasn't a member of coven.

[Path-Shaper]

D'rek here. Whoops on the DF mix-up for Omtose. Furthermore, Serc should have DF'd as Kate, not Maggie. Apologies for the confusions.


An hour and 26 min to go.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 28 October 2009 - 03:03 PM

[Telas]

Well we have to look at it from two perspectives. If Omtose was lying about Olar Ethil, he may have been lying about Kessobahn, too, which means that if you want to clear OE, you have to look at Kesso.

However, I'm with Ruse. I wouldn't be surprised if Omtose told a lot of half-truths. Maybe he really did have the power he mentioned, but wasn't working w/ the town, for example. Would he throw his own leader under the bus, though?

[Emurlahn]

So if Omtose wasn't town are saying that he and kessobahn were working together?

[Telas]

Emur, I'm not making any accusations at this point, but right now I'm thinking that Olar Ethil or Kessobahn will be my first two looks today.

PS, just saw that edit... not sure what to think, especially if the Coven is still known to be defeated.

[Telas]

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Eleazar and his mate Carmen, sisters Tanya, Irina (deceased), and Kate, and later Kate's mate Garrettare members of the Denali coven. Like the Cullens, the Denali covenpractices a diet of drinking animal instead of human blood. They are ongood terms with the Cullens, though the relationship is stressed duringEclipse when they refuse to fight Victoria and her army. Tanyais their leader and is described as having strawberry blonde hair, andonce expressed an interest in Edward Cullen, though he turned her down. Carmen speaks fluent Spanishand was the first to listen and not fear Renesmee for being ahalf-breed. Eleazar, a former member of the Volturi guard, speaksfluent Spanish as well and has the ability to vaguely identify thegifts of other vampires. Garrett is a tall, rangy vampire with rubyeyes and long sandy hair that he keeps tied back. He is an adventurer,and alludes to being an American Patriot. He joins the Denali coven in Breaking Dawnand becomes Kate's mate. Kate is described as beautiful and blonde. Herspecial ability is the production of an electric current over her skinthat can shock and incapacitate attackers. She assists Bella inlearning to use her new ability of mentally shielding those around her.

Sasha, Vasilii, and Irina were former members of the Denali coven.Sasha, the creator of Tanya, Kate, Irina, and Vasilii, was executed bythe Volturi for creating an immortal child, Vasilii. It is illegal byvampire law to create an immortal child, as they are unpredictable andhave no self-control. For this reason, both Sasha and Vasilii weredestroyed. Irina is the former mate of Laurent. She holds a grudgeagainst the werewolves, as they destroyed Laurent, but comes to makepeace with the Cullens in Breaking Dawn. Before she can speakwith them, Irina sees Renesmee, assumes she is an immortal child, andreports the Cullens to the Volturi. Upon realizing that Renesmee is notan immortal child, the Volturi destroy Irina for her mistake.

So it looks like it was the Denali Coven that was destroyed...?

[Path-Shaper]

Right, so 1 hour, 12 minutes to go, but I have to go away for the next 2 hours (class, of course), so if no one else is on to resolve I'll do it when I get back...

[Emurlahn]

Ok, so do you think Omtose would be a member of any of the vampire groups and werewolves when his CF says he was a female bisexual zombie.

[Telas]

His CF says he's a zombie named Felicity. It doesn't mention his sexual preferences.

We really have to look at it from this standpoint. One known death caused the Coven to be destroyed.

Does that mean Omtose was also on the faction and it started with 2 people? Possible, given the setup, even though there aren't any mentions of zombies in the real books. But it seems pretty lucky to get both members of the faction when the case on the second wasn't at all based on the case of the first.

Does it mean that some of the Coven was recruited? Seems possible, although I don't know any fiction that supports a theory of a werewolf being able to 'infect' a vampire (assuming the Coven are all vampires). I guess it's somewhat likely that one vampire could have seduced away another from the Coven, but I'm not really sure if I think that's what happened. How would a vampire force loyalty to a new master?

Or was the faction just 1 member large? Seems kind of weak for a 'Coven' but it did only need 7 people to die.

[Emurlahn]

7 member needing to be killed to satisfy the coven, considering if the other factions ripped into each other, that could be the coven job done for them, so a 1 person coven could be possible.

[Alkend]

Emurlahn, on 28 October 2009 - 03:30 PM, said:

7 member needing to be killed to satisfy the coven, considering if the other factions ripped into each other, that could be the coven job done for them, so a 1 person coven could be possible.

Indeed, and to be fair, before Serc died, they were probably the closest to winning, having got achieved 4/7 of their target.

[Telas]

Right, but 2 of those were 7 were lynched off, and we have no real confirmation that it was Serc who killed Tellan (and by extension, the unborn Renesmee). So if it was a faction of one, it was struggling on its own, so I'm not that convinced it was one person. And really, why would you call it a 'Coven' if it was only one person?

[Mockra]

I'm back here catching up. brb looks like only 2 pages to catch up on.

[D'riss]

Telas, on 28 October 2009 - 03:42 PM, said:

Right, but 2 of those were 7 were lynched off, and we have no real confirmation that it was Serc who killed Tellan (and by extension, the unborn Renesmee). So if it was a faction of one, it was struggling on its own, so I'm not that convinced it was one person. And really, why would you call it a 'Coven' if it was only one person?

Perhaps the other coven members were recruited? We are only guessing that it is town only that can be recruited. Indeed from the earlier scene it looks like one of the wolves has gone missing.

[Mockra]

Path-Shaper, on 28 October 2009 - 12:03 PM, said:

It is my duty to inform the denizens of this messed and messy set of novels that your banding together to achieve the lynch of Serc has assured the destruction of the Coven. The Coven has been destroyed.

Woo!!!

Korvalain, on 28 October 2009 - 12:04 PM, said:

EAT IT BITCHES!!!!!!

Even a broken clock is wrong twice a day, right Korv (not that I am one to talk as I bought it lol)

Path-Shaper, on 28 October 2009 - 12:12 PM, said:

Furthermore, a clarification (not a "correction", PS does not make mistakes)


The CF of Felicity should read

Omtose (dktorode) is modkilled. Police identified the wrath-of-god-struck body as Felicity. A coronary report indicates she was a Zombie. The mayor's office reports that she was a Foreigner Tourist.

Well, since Serc was a foreigner, and Omtose was a tourist.. I think it's probable they came over from Europe and that the "Local" CF views them from out of town " ala not Forks, Washington. Their powers might have been somewhat complimentary in that maybe the Zombie was used to draw NA's and stop stop the recruiting and Serc's role was to take out the prime targets. That makes more sense to me than a one man team... too many things out of the players control could be devestation for a one man team to have a shot of winning. From a mod standpoint, that wouldn't be fair to that team. You could have someone like, pick up a fake signal and boom it's over for that team

Hood, on 28 October 2009 - 12:29 PM, said:

D, on 28 October 2009 - 12:24 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 28 October 2009 - 12:14 PM, said:

Sorry, I had a huge post prepared about how I must have been wrong, because I was expecting a CF of evil vampire or werewolf Que(??) things, refreshed and saw that it was in fact coven and got a little excited. We need to be careful though, as we havent hit a single wolf.

the wolves have to get rid of the whole town, i am more worried now by the evil vamps, they have bella, some of the cullens and the coven all dead.

Looking at the VCs, they are the closest.

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Town - Eliminate the Cullens, Queleti and all Killers.

Cullens - Eliminate the Evil Vampires, the Coven and all original members of the Queleti

Queleti - Eliminate the Town, and all original members of the Cullens

Evil Vampires - Kill the Cullens, Werewolves, Coven and Bella Swan

Coven - Kill Edward Cullen, Carlisle Cullen, Jacob Black, Billy Black, Charlie Swan, Bella Swan and Renesmee Swan.

However, the evil vamps have probably only 1 or 2 people left, while the werewolves and Cullens have probably been recruiting since night 1, and the evil vamps have to kill every Cullen and werewolf, not just the originals. So I would disagree, I think the werewolves are a slightly bigger threat at the moment, considering we haven't hit a single one.

EDIT: numbers-wise I mean. Depends if the evil vamps still have a killer.

I think that the Evil Vamps and the Wolves are about even to this point. Our dilema is... The evil vamps need to take out the wolves... and so do we. By taking out the wolves we also take out a target for the Evil vamps bringing them maybe a Cullen away from a win? BUT we don't have to eliminate the evil vamps to win... only the Cullens do. How many original Cullens are left? Maybe 1? 2 tops I would think ( I haven't read the books so have no clue how many is even a possibility)

We are in a bit of a Pickle.... we are almost being forced to take out the evil vamps..even though its not part of our winning condition.



Let me ask this... do we think all killers are dead? no NK's so far. Cause if the Coven represented "Killers" we have the same winning conditions as the evil Vamps. Unless of course the Evil Vamps are the "Killers" mentioned in the winning conditions. if thats the case then we just have to eliminate everybody and it doesn't matter what order we do it in. In which case I would say we start looking for Wolves as they do seem to have the lead.



Edit : Clarification of thought.

This post has been edited by Mockra: 28 October 2009 - 04:18 PM

[Mockra]

D, on 28 October 2009 - 03:53 PM, said:

Telas, on 28 October 2009 - 03:42 PM, said:

Right, but 2 of those were 7 were lynched off, and we have no real confirmation that it was Serc who killed Tellan (and by extension, the unborn Renesmee). So if it was a faction of one, it was struggling on its own, so I'm not that convinced it was one person. And really, why would you call it a 'Coven' if it was only one person?

Perhaps the other coven members were recruited? We are only guessing that it is town only that can be recruited. Indeed from the earlier scene it looks like one of the wolves has gone missing.

I have a hard time believing that a Werewolf can be turned into a vampire. Lemme go read the scene again.

[Olar Ethil]

Hello people..

So dk CF'ed as Tourist and Serc as Kate? and the coven is now dead? Hm, I do find it unlikely that the coven only had one member to begin with, and I would also think that recruitment in the sense that it fits vampires and werewolves is to turn other players into their own kind, which doesn't really fit other vampires and ww.

To me, it seems fairly obvious that Omtose was a member of Coven too, perhaps just as a regular symp but as he's the only player dead so far that could be the other member, well it seems a pretty simple deduction to me. In old vampire lore, a zombie is a half turned vampire btb.

Out of the players still alive, Emurlahn's incessant need to angle every piece of information we receive towards Omtose being town and me lying is interesting. I'm more inclined to tag Emurlahn as scum rather than a confused inno at this point .

[Meanas]

Path-Shaper, on 28 October 2009 - 09:25 AM, said:

It was about 4:30pm, and Stephanie was walking along the shoulder of Route 5 near Center Lovell, Maine. As she walked, she practiced her sobbing fests for when the press would next invite her to speak about the tragic betrayal by one of her sinister proofreaders. She was making such a commotion of wailing, sobbing, howling and moaning that she had no inkling of the speeding Buick coming up behind her. The truck was straddling the shoulder of the road, clearly aimed directly at her.
When the truck hit her, it was with a wet plopping noise reminiscent of overlarge French toast being dropped from a great height. Stephanie flew 14 feet through the air and landed in a ditch just off the side of the road. She was mostly cushioned by her own bodymass and suffered no significant injuries, but was already telling herself that she was bleeding from at least 20 separate arteries at once.
Moments after she pulled her cell phone out of her purse, a booted foot came down on the electronic gizmo (and her hand), shattering the circuits (and her bones). Too frightened even to scream (and very, very aroused by the predicament), she stared into the truck driver's eyes as he sternly told her to quit crying over her (fake) little internet leak and get the hell back to work on her books. Or else.
The stranger donned his cowboy hat, twirled his revolvers and strode away into the sunset, humming to himself and muttering that "you just don't mess with the King."


Serc (baudin) is dead. Police identified the body as Maggie. A coronary report revealed that she is a vampire. City officials confirm that she was a foreigner.

It is now Epilogue 4, 7 hours are left.

BEST SCENE EVAR!!!!!

Ahem.

Well, I'll eat my words with a side of brown rice, please. You were right (although possibly by wrong reasoning) about Serc, and well done nailing the Coven. However, I find it strange that a whole faction is eliminated and yet only 1 person is dead from it. Now, its possible any other coven members will be distributed among other factions, or among the other 2 vampire factions, or even that we'll be given their CFs come day break. But its still odd that their end leaves no trail of blood. Just 1 splatter and...nada. I'm off to lunch, be back when I can.