[Gamelon]

Galain, on 24 September 2009 - 10:24 PM, said:

Ok, here goes.

Gamelon, on 24 September 2009 - 07:52 AM, said:

ok to clear up the korvalain confusion i know for a fact that he was a spy as part of his role was to send his own REAL cf to people. dont ask me what weird type of role that is, but he did have an actual cf and i cannot reveal it on thread on pain of tapper stamping on me. the message made it clear that a number of players would recieve it, possibly people on his train or by some other distinction i dont know. Korvalain was definitely a spy, just a very good one.

I wasn' sure Game was scum yesterday, and so wouldn't vote for him. However, he more I read his posts of last night and today, the more I see scum. He garnered alot of heat yesterday, and was nearly lynched. Nearly being the key word. So what does one do, when nearly lynched? Look for a way to PI himself. Above he states that Korv had to send his REAL CF to random people. Its pretty obvious to me at least that Korv was in fact a symp. I mean, a symp CF's as inno, however he would have to be in a nationality that his scum masters were in. Since Tapper said that one or more nationalities had been infiltrated, that would mean that he would CF as MORE THAN ONE nationality. Below Korv says that he didn't make a slip with the "Fuck it" remark, yet remember, before Gamelon changed he had to have known that Korv wasn't on "his team", according to his first post anyway. That my friends is a blatant contradiction. He knew, yet he wouldn't announce it on thread, yet he did announce i on thread.

Gamelon, on 24 September 2009 - 07:58 AM, said:

Hood, on 24 September 2009 - 01:47 AM, said:

I'm going to have to go with Gamelon lynch. His words I think were "fuck him, he's not on my team." and as the CF turned out, He was on all the National teams. That leaves just one other team. Scum.

Vote Gamelon

this really is a ridiculous vote. You honestly think as scum, i would say that korv, who i would have had to know on day 1 is on all the teams (which he wasnt), isnt in my team and announce it just before putting him on l-1. Seriously, use your brain.

Now below is the first mention of the blonde which made during last nights actions. Gamelon asks why the scene couldn't have made them lovers. No mention of himself as the blonde.

Path-Shaper, on 24 September 2009 - 08:05 AM, said:

Two women, one blond, the other dark. One with an oval face, the other's heartshaped with flaring cheeckbones and fiery eyes. One dressed casually, the other in a leather catsuit. One sitting in a window, the other hanging upside down from a few toes crammed into a groove.
"Can't be very comfortable," the blonde remarks.
"I'm used to it. Enjoying the clear night sky?"
"I do. Hadn't expected to find you here, after that debacle in Istanbul."
The vertical lady smiled. "I could say the exact same about you."
"So, they didn't force you out? You didn't run? Still the same old employer?"
"I'm not one to betray my ideals. even if they force me into uncomfortable positions."
The blonde said nothing, but nodded to herself, imagining the strain on the other's ankle. The thrillseeker was still loyal. Good.

However, below he is saying he is the blonde and is being guarded. Based on the latest action scene. Now how does one know that they are being guarded? Seriously, if I take an action and it fails, I don't know if I am being guarded, or the person I am targeting is being healed, or had a BP, or any other freaky amounts of possibly twisted roles that might be in this game.

Gamelon, on 24 September 2009 - 07:26 PM, said:

just checking in, nice to see my popularity hasnt gone down. i am being guarded.

@hp - i wont be voting until i see whether some of the quiet folk actually get involved and i dont have time tonight.

Meanas asked if anyone could confirm that Gamelon was telling the truth and this is the answer we get.

Gamelon, on 24 September 2009 - 08:39 PM, said:

Meanas, on 24 September 2009 - 07:45 PM, said:

I know I haven't been around much. I am really sorry, my week has been far more insane than I anticipated, and I am completely knackered. I haven't been on a train because my on line times haven't been in sync with the lynches. I didn't think Spite was scum when I was on, so I wasn't about to vote for him at that time, although I probably would have later on, because lynches are important, obviously.

I have no real feeling on anybody at the moment, but that's probably due to speed reading. I will come up with some more thoughts before I sleep though I promise!

Gamelon, on 24 September 2009 - 03:09 PM, said:

i am sure others recieved info about korvalain and can confirm what i said.

Just one thing, and I will go back and check, but has anybody referred to this, ie backed it up like Gamelon believed they would?

will answer this now as well, people might think announcing they have info on thread makes them a target, i am akready loud and centre of attention. i would hope people have the back bone to acknowledge it, but if they dont, you have to ask yourself why would i make it up? i think it would benefit us all for those who recieved this info to clarify it, at least one person.

Why would he make it up?

Lets see, he has CIed (at least in his mind) Korvalain, someone who had the strangest CF ever, and yet we get a "normal" CF and no one sees a problem with this. There must have been a "master of disguise". No way that its scum, or a symp. What if all scum comes up as the same CF as Korvalain, or what if none of them do. I still say he is scum, and the only people I could see using a trashed CF and not going with the obvious would be scum who was in trouble and is looking for a way out.

@galain - i was informed players meeting a certain condition would recieve the information and i know from the winning conditions that there are more than just me that fit into a certain category so i was confident at leats 2 other people recieved the same info i did. i dont see how this ci's me, as there is nothing in my or others recieving korvs cf that implies we are inno. I never suggested i was ci either, you are just assuming thats why i did that. I had info, i asked ps if i could reveal part of it, they said yes, so it doesnt hurt me to go with that info as it stops the continuing discussion which was going nowhere.

Emurlahn, on 24 September 2009 - 11:24 PM, said:

Ruse, on 24 September 2009 - 11:18 PM, said:

Oh, I can back up Gamelon's claim, by the way. I was told that Korvalain's real name was one of the four given in the CF and that he belonged to that faction. Should probably have come forward with that earlier I guess...but better late than never.

Yes you should have revealed this earlier.

But there a problem, as Gamelon suggested quite a few people should got this CF, but only you and him have admitted to this, and Gamelon post made it sound like more than two people.

So I'm wondering where are the others who got Korv cf, that if you and Game are telling the truth?

Theres someone else, and if i were scum and ruse was this would be the stupidest play ever as the game has multiple finders (read the points conditions for the french).

Galain, on 25 September 2009 - 12:32 AM, said:

Ruse, on 25 September 2009 - 12:13 AM, said:

Galain, on 24 September 2009 - 11:46 PM, said:

But how would Game know others got sent the pm?

Edit: Spelling

Well, assuming he got the same PM I did, then the implication is there in the message.



@HP: Nope, I'm not the blonde's lover (I assumed you're referring to the dark-haired one, yeah?)

Well, thank goodness. Well that CI's both of you. Guess I should remove my vote.

Or not.

it certainly doesnt ci anyone so stop being so childish.

Kaschan, on 25 September 2009 - 04:00 AM, said:

Ok.

Well 12 hours to go not a lot else has happened. I have infomation that I can't really share without being killed by El Presidente but it boils down to.

Meanas is scum.

Vote Meanas

good enough for me as i trust kaschan.

vote meanas

[Gamelon]

and i am on my own time to look at meanas and see if there are any tell tale signs toward other players.

[Kaschan]

I'm here as well still off and on to answer any questions. I need to check with PS about what I can say and what I can't I guess.

[Gamelon]

Meanas, on 22 September 2009 - 11:44 AM, said:

I have to leave soon and don't think I'll be back before day times out.

The argument against Silchas, imo, seems the only thing worthy of note. There is HP's Emurlahn vote, but he hasn't been back to explain it and I don't get the point he is trying to make. So

Vote Silchas Ruin

Meanas, on 24 September 2009 - 10:39 PM, said:

Ihave just reread the entire thread...I think I want to killmyself...:killingme:It's easy having huge post counts if you spam likemad and can stay on line for hours. /sarcasm]

Seriously,considering there are so many pages, there is actually sod all toreally get a grip of. Oh, loads of info in scenes and stuff, butnothing to pin down as scummy, other than the cases that were madeagainst Sil, Korv, Spit and Game...okay that's quite a lot, but what Imean is they've been done over and over and I am not about to startraking them up again yet. It would be pointless. The battle betweenSpite and Game was a huge distraction and I honestly don't know if Iwould have voted for either had I been on.

The post that did poke me in the eye was this one

Ruse, on 22 September 2009 - 04:49 PM, said:

Woo! 500!

Ihave to say, the group of players who were remarking about how theScum= Syndicate thing wasn't obvious sounded really stupid. I can'trememberwho it was exactly (will check when I get home), but theonlyexplanations as far as I can tell are that either they didn'tfollowTapper's very explicit instructions and read through therulescarefully (which, if you followed this instruction, made gleaningS=Svery straightforward), or they were deliberately being obtuse inorderto drive the train onwards. My money is on the latter, becauseTapper'swarning signals should have made it clear that a thorough readwas anabsolute must.

However, the CF means that it's definitely worth getting a lynch today,and at this late hour I don't see any other real options.

Vote Silchas Ruin

butI am sure hindsight is affecting me, simply because the train did turn,so that last sentence probably seems worse than it really was.

these seem to be the only two occassions where meanas actively goes after another player (still living there was some questioning of spite but no vote).

[Gamelon]

Kaschan, on 25 September 2009 - 07:46 AM, said:

I'm here as well still off and on to answer any questions. I need to check with PS about what I can say and what I can't I guess.

well dont say anything that could get you modkill. Do you know have an inclination what nationality he is hiding behind, or will you be waiting until he is dead before finding that out. We also go up a level then so scum and a level, this could be a pivotal lynch.

[Gamelon]

oh and remember that night happens in real time so if perchance you can find others, being around just after the lynch (ie before you could be targetted by scum) would be beneficial to the town.

[Gamelon]

just checking that you never recieved the info about korvalain?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 8 hours and 40 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Silchas Ruin, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night

1 vote for Tulas Shorn: ( Emurlahn )
1 vote for Gamelon: ( Galain )
4 votes for Meanas: ( Liosan, Kaschan, Barghast, Gamelon )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, D'riss, Hood's Path, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Silchas Ruin, Tulas Shorn

[Gamelon]

8 hours for 4 votes, i think we should be alright.

[Hood's Path]

I will play along.
Vote Meanas

[Kaschan]

I never recieved any info about Korvalain. And I can have a pretty good guess as to which nationality Meanas is hiding behind.

[Gamelon]

Hood, on 25 September 2009 - 08:07 AM, said:

I will play along.
Vote Meanas

interestingly put. you have been watching me to carefully, you're starting to get in the swing of things

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 8 hours and 20 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Silchas Ruin, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night

1 vote for Tulas Shorn: ( Emurlahn )
1 vote for Gamelon: ( Galain )
5 votes for Meanas: ( Liosan, Kaschan, Barghast, Gamelon, Hood's Path )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, D'riss, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Silchas Ruin, Tulas Shorn

[Hood's Path]

@Gam, Well I'm trying my best. But I do have to try and treat it like I would a normal finder reveal. I think it is too early for a scum fake reveal so it is the logical thing to do.

I think the car pick up scene is a successful recruitment by the way.

[Gamelon]

Hood, on 25 September 2009 - 08:21 AM, said:

@Gam, Well I'm trying my best. But I do have to try and treat it like I would a normal finder reveal. I think it is too early for a scum fake reveal so it is the logical thing to do.

I think the car pick up scene is a successful recruitment by the way.

thats a good pick actually.

[Gamelon]

oh i was talking about the wording which was amusing

[Gamelon]

who else is on around this time?

[Hood's Path]

I'm here for another 30 min then it will checking from phone for the rest of the day.

[Gamelon]

i guess we wait for a result.