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#1041 User is offline   Hood's Path 

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 11:37 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 24 September 2009 - 11:24 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on 24 September 2009 - 11:18 PM, said:

Oh, I can back up Gamelon's claim, by the way. I was told that Korvalain's real name was one of the four given in the CF and that he belonged to that faction. Should probably have come forward with that earlier I guess...but better late than never.


Yes you should have revealed this earlier.

But there a problem, as Gamelon suggested quite a few people should got this CF, but only you and him have admitted to this, and Gamelon post made it sound like more than two people.

So I'm wondering where are the others who got Korv cf, that if you and Game are telling the truth?


Ruse you wouldn't by chance be the blonds new lover?

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 11:46 PM

But how would Game know others got sent the pm?

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This post has been edited by Galain: 24 September 2009 - 11:46 PM


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Posted 25 September 2009 - 12:10 AM

View PostGalain, on 24 September 2009 - 11:46 PM, said:

But how would Game know others got sent the pm?

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Pretty simple. It's possible he knew when he reached a certain level he would be able to communicate off thread(lovers?) and put that claim in, knowing he could get a lover or team mate to back it up later. I'm not saying that's the case, but it is possible.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 12:13 AM

View PostGalain, on 24 September 2009 - 11:46 PM, said:

But how would Game know others got sent the pm?

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Well, assuming he got the same PM I did, then the implication is there in the message.



@HP: Nope, I'm not the blonde's lover (I assumed you're referring to the dark-haired one, yeah?)

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 12:32 AM

View PostRuse, on 25 September 2009 - 12:13 AM, said:

View PostGalain, on 24 September 2009 - 11:46 PM, said:

But how would Game know others got sent the pm?

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Well, assuming he got the same PM I did, then the implication is there in the message.



@HP: Nope, I'm not the blonde's lover (I assumed you're referring to the dark-haired one, yeah?)


Well, thank goodness. Well that CI's both of you. Guess I should remove my vote.

Or not.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 12:33 AM

Hey all, just got home. I have normal evening stuff to take care of like dinner and whatnot, and it will take me a bit to catch up on everything since Tapper was last on, but I'll handle everything within the next couple of hours ;)
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 12:59 AM

View PostEmurlahn, on 24 September 2009 - 11:16 PM, said:

View PostTulas Shorn, on 24 September 2009 - 02:57 PM, said:

Morning folks, catching up now.



View PostTulas Shorn, on 24 September 2009 - 03:06 PM, said:

Well apologies if I skimmed a bit, but there was a lot to go through. Spite's CF and Game's confirmation makes me more confident that Korv really was a spy and not syndicate, but a master of disguise so that he could fake any nationality. The simplest would be that one of those nationalities was his real one, but who knows, maybe at level 4 or 5 he could actually change his allegiance and win with anyone (except scum). Doesn't matter much at this point.

To who-ever said 4 (or even 5) scum was a lot for 17 people, this is TMDI 10 and we all have abilities that develop more and more as we level. 4 scum may be a lot if the other 13 of us were mostly RI, but for this I don't think that seems weird at all.



View PostTulas Shorn, on 24 September 2009 - 03:30 PM, said:

View PostGamelon, on 24 September 2009 - 03:21 PM, said:

well bargie was saying how tulas disappeared and is scummy and tulas posts next. while yesterday someone complained about silchas and he posted next ;)


People with two names are just great at making an entrance...



View PostTulas Shorn, on 24 September 2009 - 03:34 PM, said:

Man, this new board version really is both nice and a pain in the ass for trying to review someone dozens of posts... nice in that it's easy to see which are spam and skip'em but every contentful posts needs to be opened individually...

Anyways, I did a re-read of HP and Mockra. I know it's night and this'd be better saved for the day but there's like 12 hours left in night, I gotta do something while I have all this on-time!

Mockra doesn't strike me oddly in any which way - he's just the usual trudging along offering commentary on cases and voting. Nothing really looked out of place.

HP's contentfulness is mostly from day 1 with his case on Emur and then switching away from that. He very much followed the train yesterday with only a bit of content in the form of commenting on the Korv CF but not much of anything about the case itself. This worries me a bit, as scum would definitely want to appear helpful and day 1 was a great time to make a case to appear that way, after which he could be now laying low without arousing suspicions due to his established helpfulness and solid post count. Finally, HP has shown a high willingness to lynch, switching over to the existing lynch trains both times when they were around half the votes needed for lynch, and we all know scum like to be among the middle voters in the trains.



View PostTulas Shorn, on 24 September 2009 - 04:26 PM, said:

I gotta take off for class now, see ya guys in a few (and hopefully night'll be over soon!)


Right I posted a list and I stated that the three bottom posters I saw a chance of there being a scum, a while later Tulas comes on within an hour and a half posted 5 posts, which is a quarter of his posts over three days he has 21 posts on the writing of this.

One serious post where he goes over HP, fair does (but people have argued about HP quite a bit). One post saying he is has arrived and another saying he is going away, one post a joke and another post where he reiterated what had been said before him.

To me he barely contributing or he just repeats previous arguments.

So

Vote Tulas Shorn


So, what's your deal here Emur? You're showing only my last 5 posts and saying that it's all I've got... did you actually think I wouldn't come on and rebuttal you? Or do you really believe I haven't made any other contributions?

Here's 5 more for your viewing pleasure:

View PostTulas Shorn, on 22 September 2009 - 04:25 PM, said:

Well I'm back for a bit and just finished another giant catch-up. I agree with Lio - I think the boy-handing-wallet scene was someone doing a day vig. Likewise, the couple hooking up for dinner sounds like a (possibly successful) attempt to create a lovers connection. I'd suspect these little day scenes are indicative of day abilities being used and we should analyze the posts around them more thoroughly as they come.

View PostTulas Shorn, on 22 September 2009 - 04:27 PM, said:

Also, I wouldn't worry too much about getting the 500 posts by the end of day - we can go up multiple levels at a time and we'll easily have that by the end of night. Surely you aren't saying you have amazing abilities that you need to have tonight at level 2??!

View PostTulas Shorn, on 22 September 2009 - 04:33 PM, said:

View PostGamelon, on 22 September 2009 - 04:29 PM, said:

1 - why announce in the rules the structure of role pms when a fake reveal or a real reveal result in modkill? i bring this up as the only example of where syndicate is used.
2 - why would ALL the scum require the nationality of a town faction if in the cf they come back as scum? (this is regard to a post made by pathshaper about scum being dispersed between the factions and the cf info given as well)


You're forgetting the whole making and breaking lovers connections in this game. Reveals aren't allowed on-thread, but they can be used in private PMs. Likewise, CFs might say scum on-thread, but you could reveal nationality to your fake lovers, as well.

View PostTulas Shorn, on 22 September 2009 - 11:13 PM, said:

Hey guys. I don't normally like to talk much at night, but I'll at least check in and drop some thoughts. The CF seems simple enough to me - obviously we lynched the master of disguise who has multiple identities. I'd suspect his main ability was that anyone who did a find on him would've found him as being on their own team. No reliable way to know what team he was *really* on, though...

All the little mini-scenes throughout the night are very cool. I think near the end there there was some repeated characters, like the Dragunov-sniper and the business-woman. This to me seems like they could either do multiple actions or one scene is their action and another is an action being done on them.

View PostTulas Shorn, on 23 September 2009 - 12:48 PM, said:

View PostGamelon, on 23 September 2009 - 12:17 PM, said:

View PostHugin & Munin, on 22 September 2009 - 04:46 PM, said:

I believe this is current... Tapper and I are really busy bees right now, but we're keeping on top of it pretty well.

It is Day 1. 1 hour and 13 minutes remaining

17Players still alive: Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain,Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra,Omtose, Ruse, Silchas Ruin, Spite, Tulas Shorn

9 votes to lynch, 9 votes to go to night

6 votes for Silchas Ruin: ( Korvalain, Meanas, Galain, Emurlahn, Barghast, Tulas Shorn )
1 vote for Korvalain: ( Kaschan )
2 votes for Emurlahn: ( Hood's Path, Silchas Ruin )
1 vote for Liosan: ( Omtose )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, D'riss, Gamelon, Liosan, Mockra, Ruse, Spite



View PostSpite, on 22 September 2009 - 04:51 PM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 22 September 2009 - 04:50 PM, said:

View PostSpite, on 22 September 2009 - 04:45 PM, said:

Man I could really use the time and vote count. Are there enough people here to go on to Korv. I could vote for either him or Emurlahn.

You can always put a vote down and find out. YOu can always switch back to me at the end if it's needed. There are a lot of people on, but they probably have their browser open in the background at work. They might just hop on and check the vote counts a little bit before day times out to see if they're needed. If they see I'm the only viable lynch, then they'll just sink me, but if they see a split vote, they might actually engage their brain and put down a more informed vote.

Just conjecture, though.


Eye I can do that.

Vote Emurlahn



silchas asks and you just jump to. HA!!!!


You know, laying it out like this makes it look like maybe Spite is a symp to Silchas and was trying to signal Silch...


And further to that I have some very lengthy summation and discussion of the scenes during night 1 (post 645 and 697 especially, I won't break your scroll wheels by reposting them though).

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 01:10 AM

And once again no one else is online with me... damn you timezones!!!

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 01:14 AM

It is Day 3. 15 hours and 27 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Silchas Ruin, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night

1 vote for Tulas Shorn: ( Emurlahn )
1 vote for Gamelon: ( Galain )
1 vote for Meanas: ( Liosan )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Silchas Ruin, Tulas Shorn
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 01:46 AM

Screeeeeech. The sound of the brakes burned his ears, but he had no choice. Outside, she stood, looking a bit lost and like a sore thumb in her attire.

"Get in, dammit!" he barked at her, throwing open the door.

She looked flabberghasted, partially at the sudden arrival, partially at the beautiful vintage automobile.

"Grrr... there's no time! Get in the god-damned car!" He implored fervently.

She blinked and came out of her stupor. Nodding, she hastily got in and closed the door, and the car hauled into gear and down the road.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 01:46 AM

It is Day 3. 14 hours and 55 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Silchas Ruin, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night

1 vote for Tulas Shorn: ( Emurlahn )
1 vote for Gamelon: ( Galain )
1 vote for Meanas: ( Liosan )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Silchas Ruin, Tulas Shorn

~~

I'll be here infrequently for the next several hours.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 01:57 AM

Hmmm not sure what that scene could be. Seems like a woman in some sort of stand out clothes getting picked up by a guy in a posh car.possibly a temporary lover connection?

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 02:17 AM

Now im going to go to sleep, should definitely be on before the time out.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 04:00 AM

Ok.

Well 12 hours to go not a lot else has happened. I have infomation that I can't really share without being killed by El Presidente but it boils down to.

Meanas is scum.

Vote Meanas

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 04:33 AM

It is Day 3. 12 hours and 8 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Silchas Ruin, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night

1 vote for Tulas Shorn: ( Emurlahn )
1 vote for Gamelon: ( Galain )
2 votes for Meanas: ( Liosan, Kaschan )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Silchas Ruin, Tulas Shorn
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 05:52 AM

It is Day 3. 10 hours and 49 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Silchas Ruin, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night

1 vote for Tulas Shorn: ( Emurlahn )
1 vote for Gamelon: ( Galain )
2 votes for Meanas: ( Liosan, Kaschan )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Silchas Ruin, Tulas Shorn

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PB calling it a night.
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 06:32 AM

Uhm...wow, Kasch. I don't know what to say about that. I'm gonna have to ask that you give us some more info. How do you know? Ask P-S to clear a statement if you need to, but give us some info.
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 07:06 AM

View PostKaschan, on 25 September 2009 - 04:00 AM, said:

Ok.

Well 12 hours to go not a lot else has happened. I have infomation that I can't really share without being killed by El Presidente but it boils down to.

Meanas is scum.

Vote Meanas

Kaschan, you sure about that? My guess is you'll get lynched or vigged in pretty short order if you're wrong and I'd hate for both you and Meanas to turn up inno.

It's hard to gauge credibility when there are no true reveals, but if you're sure, I'll treat like a find reveal and test it as per usual. Seems a little too early for scum to be making a gambit like this, especially when they haven't been getting any night kills.

I'm going to sleep, but I'll be back before day times out to throw down a vote if necessary.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 07:11 AM

I'm confident yes.

Barghast from the OP:

Path Shaper said:

10. Revealing your alignment:

This is a spy game. Public reveals of your nationality are not done. Do it anyway, and you are executed by vigilante supporters of El Presidente’s Junta for unwanted involvement in internal affairs (modkill). Also, your team loses regardless of the outcome of the game. Don’t do it. This includes fake reveals. You may however code your alignment on one condition: let the mod check the code first and approve of it.

11. Revealing name or abilities:
1a) publicly stating you are a thieving, sabotaging, conspirating, murdering, spying foreign agent out to bring down El Presidente is signing your own death warrant. Quoting from your Role PM on thread is thus a modkill-able offence. What you do in PMs is your own business.

Note that using your (code)name/ role description is a modkillable offence as well.

1b) General use of the terms: guard, find, vig, heal etc is allowed, also to describe your own abilities, however, specifics (when you used them, who you used them on, what the exact number of used during the game is, how it is affected by levels et cetera) is forbidden. When in doubt, consult P-S.

If you want to make a target out of yourself in this way, go ahead… cause the chances for other teams to win a point victory increase with every single dead/ disabled spy from another nation.

You can also publicly reveal the alignment and abilities of another player, this will not lead to a mod-kill. We advise caution, however.



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Posted 25 September 2009 - 07:15 AM

In other words you are a finder and didn't read the OP properly. I guess I'd be willing to vote for him. I mean, in my books low posters are only a slight step better than true scum, so.

vote Meanas
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