[amphibian]

ritchiediaz, on 15 September 2009 - 08:30 PM, said:

A chithink a fld of a half-human FA

A what, now?

[ritchiediaz]

amphibian, on 15 September 2009 - 09:37 PM, said:

ritchiediaz, on 15 September 2009 - 08:30 PM, said:

A chithink a fld of a half-human FA

A what, now?

I think that was 'child' with a rogue ctrl v...

[bubba]

...and what is Mael up to?...He now controls? two empires.

[HoosierDaddy]

Bubba, on 16 September 2009 - 01:41 AM, said:

...and what is Mael up to?...He now controls? two empires.

He's cut his ties with Mallick Rel, and Tehol and Bugg seem to be intellectually equal.

[bubba]

HoosierDaddy, on 16 September 2009 - 01:46 AM, said:

Bubba, on 16 September 2009 - 01:41 AM, said:

...and what is Mael up to?...He now controls? two empires.

He's cut his ties with Mallick Rel, and Tehol and Bugg seem to be intellectually equal.

I don't think so....there was that conversation he had Kilmandaros just after The Errant and Knuckles left that had me wondering. (All RotCG info aside)

[HoosierDaddy]

Mael's playing the game he needs to play to stay out of Errastas', Knuckles & Killy's, and Olar Ethil's plans.

[bubba]

....oh and my MAIN theory(read as  crazy.gif (1.1K)
Number of downloads: 5 )......The Adjunct works for ST and Coll.

[MTS]

Bubba, on 16 September 2009 - 02:20 AM, said:

....oh and my MAIN theory(read as crazy.gif )......The Adjunct works for ST and Coll.

So the whole 'gods don't tell ME what to do!' thing is just a double-bluff? Lol I like it.

[bubba]

Mappo, on 16 September 2009 - 02:26 AM, said:

Bubba, on 16 September 2009 - 02:20 AM, said:

....oh and my MAIN theory(read as crazy.gif )......The Adjunct works for ST and Coll.

So the whole 'gods don't tell ME what to do!' thing is just a double-bluff? Lol I like it.

Yea, I think She is the silent third partner.....

[MTS]

Morgoth, on 15 September 2009 - 08:36 PM, said:

Mappo, on 15 September 2009 - 12:04 PM, said:

Pig Iron, on 15 September 2009 - 11:54 AM, said:

"INQUISITORS / FORKRUL ASSAIL:-
It's my theory that the Inquisitors and the FA in Kolanse are somehow DIFFERENT to other FA, possibly corrupted - one thing I noticed was the names; up until the Inquisitors we have only seen FA with 'peaceful' names - Calm, Serenity, Repose; contrast this to the Inquisitors - Sever, Scorn & Rail. I don't think this is coincidence, and I wonder exactly what the Inquisitors really are and how they are tied up with the CG."

Nice, another thing I missed. This forum is great.

I would agree with this. It would seem that Calm and possibly Serenity too are more powerful FA than the rest. When Errastas and Setch travel the Holds, there is this curious little exchange:

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[Setch]'Which one will you seek first?'
[Errastas]'Why, the one under a Jaghut stone, of course.'

This looks to imply that Calm (originally trapped under a Jaghut stone until HoC) is perhaps an Ascendant among the FA. One would not seek a regular FA, after all.

This would be the hold of death, ruled by the jaghut Hood. It's confirmed a little later in the book.

I can see how you would come by that interpretation. The language used is too odd to be referring to the Holds though, I think. Firstly, he's not seeking the Holds, and secondly, if by Jaghut he's referring to Hood it doesn't make much sense that he would say 'stone' in referring to Hood's erstwhile mastery of that Hold.

[flea]

Overall, the best DoD thread. Back to your regularly scheduled program...

[blackzoid]

Mappo, on 16 September 2009 - 02:30 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 15 September 2009 - 08:36 PM, said:

Mappo, on 15 September 2009 - 12:04 PM, said:

Pig Iron, on 15 September 2009 - 11:54 AM, said:

"INQUISITORS / FORKRUL ASSAIL:-
It's my theory that the Inquisitors and the FA in Kolanse are somehow DIFFERENT to other FA, possibly corrupted - one thing I noticed was the names; up until the Inquisitors we have only seen FA with 'peaceful' names - Calm, Serenity, Repose; contrast this to the Inquisitors - Sever, Scorn & Rail. I don't think this is coincidence, and I wonder exactly what the Inquisitors really are and how they are tied up with the CG."

Nice, another thing I missed. This forum is great.

I would agree with this. It would seem that Calm and possibly Serenity too are more powerful FA than the rest. When Errastas and Setch travel the Holds, there is this curious little exchange:

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[Setch]'Which one will you seek first?'
[Errastas]'Why, the one under a Jaghut stone, of course.'

This looks to imply that Calm (originally trapped under a Jaghut stone until HoC) is perhaps an Ascendant among the FA. One would not seek a regular FA, after all.

This would be the hold of death, ruled by the jaghut Hood. It's confirmed a little later in the book.

I can see how you would come by that interpretation. The language used is too odd to be referring to the Holds though, I think. Firstly, he's not seeking the Holds, and secondly, if by Jaghut he's referring to Hood it doesn't make much sense that he would say 'stone' in referring to Hood's erstwhile mastery of that Hold.

Mappo, later on Killy in that same scene specifically says to Mael that the Errant and Setch use Death as the warren to travel through in order to get at Paran. At which Mael lets her know that Rake killed Hood before he was killed by Dassem.

It has nothing to do with Calm I'm afraid.

This post has been edited by blackzoid: 16 September 2009 - 09:43 AM

[MTS]

You're reading it wrong blackzoid. There's no mention of Errastas going after Paran. If you look at the language, Setch says that Paran will be in no position to intercept him, not defend against.

However, I concede the point that it probably isn't about Calm. I think it's about some Eleint. Kilmandaros says that 'there ever was the danger - so close to the Eleint - that I lose control', and she stays behind and has a chit chat with Mael.

He's not talking about the Holds though. Like I said, the language used doesn't make sense.

This post has been edited by Mappo's Travelling Sack: 16 September 2009 - 11:13 AM

[Tiste Simeon]

So Killy goes psycho when up against Eleint? I guess that makes sense with the RG prologue with her and Rake, and she seemed very reluctant to help him...

[Abyss]

Bubba, on 16 September 2009 - 02:29 AM, said:

Mappo, on 16 September 2009 - 02:26 AM, said:

Bubba, on 16 September 2009 - 02:20 AM, said:

....oh and my MAIN theory(read as crazy.gif )......The Adjunct works for ST and Coll.

So the whole 'gods don't tell ME what to do!' thing is just a double-bluff? Lol I like it.

Yea, I think She is the silent third partner.....

Disagree. I suspect that even her resistance to doing what the Gods want may unknowingly play into whatever master plan ST/Cots are running, but i also wouldn't be surprised to find out she's turned the game on them somehow too. I do not think she's actively working for them.

Of course, Cotillion has Lostara standing by, and most of the squad mages in the 14th are Meanas in some way, so it's not at tho ST/Cots don't have their fingers in the pie.

Tiste Simeon, on 16 September 2009 - 11:20 AM, said:

So Killy goes psycho when up against Eleint? I guess that makes sense with the RG prologue with her and Rake, and she seemed very reluctant to help him...

At some point Sech ruminates upon Kila as a force for chaos. While initially it seems odd that eleint, linked to SD and close to chaos, are inimical to her, it may be ac ase of similar natures repelling. And Kila does have a history of breaking dragons in the brainz and other bits.

flea, on 16 September 2009 - 02:30 AM, said:

Overall, the best DoD thread. Back to your regularly scheduled program...

Thank you, thank you, one does one's humble best.

- Abyss, modestly bestest.

[bubba]

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Disagree. I suspect that even her resistance to doing what the Godswant may unknowingly play into whatever master plan ST/Cots arerunning, but i also wouldn't be surprised to find out she's turned thegame on them somehow too. I do not think she's actively working forthem.

Of course, Cotillion has Lostara standing by, and most of the squadmages in the 14th are Meanas in some way, so it's not at tho ST/Cotsdon't have their fingers in the pie

I think it may be a forced partnership.


I'm thinking She knew the short tails were going to be there. I think the only way to remove them from the game was to soften them up for the long tails. (But was heartbroken that it had to happen)....



...and I did just finish reading it last night.....and my brain is on spin cycle.

[Abyss]

Stormy or Gesler do learn from their SUPER TECHNO LIZARD ARMY OF AWESOME that if the KN weren't stopped they would just spread out and conquer the world, so it's possible that Tavore knew, via the eres'al or otherwise, that someone had to step into the KN's path. That said, if she had actually known this, i would hazard a guess she would have prepared the army a little better, y'know, real entrenchment, Perish and Khundryl on hand, that sort of thing. So no, i'm bacl to Tavore didn't know the lizards were coming.

- Abyss, lizard king.

[bubba]

I think if she knew they were going to be out there, she probably didn't know when she would find them or how bad is was going to be.....Speculation...so much fun

[ritchiediaz]

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I'm thinking She knew the short tails were going to be there. I think the only way to remove them from the game was to soften them up for the long tails. (But was heartbroken that it had to happen)....

I agree, Tavore definitely knew, and it was probably the reason for her 'widow' behaviour.

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Expressionless, the Adjunct said, 'It is clear they intend to engage us, Sergeant.'
'Sinter,' said Tavore, 'K'Chain Nah'ruk'

This exchange says to me that Tavore definitely knew - followed up by Quick a few paras later:-

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No, the gods didn't manage this. They could not guess the Adjunct's heart, that wellspring so full with all she could reveal to none.

[bubba]

...and for all intents and purpose, It was unwitnessed....  splat1.gif (24.17K)
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