[Galain]

Well of the people in the list, I would think Korv is the most likely to have been vigged. Maybe someone felt they could make up for the lack of a lynch yesterday?

[Eloth]

Here, catching up.

[Eloth]

Not good.

NK, SK and vig is the only explanation I can see. Now for a proper re-read.

[Eloth]

OK, after a more thorough look at recent events, this post helped to solidify a thought I couldn't pin down:

Ruse, on Aug 28 2009, 07:11 PM, said:

Having reread the last few pages the only thing i noticed was a possibility of a connection between Galain and Rashan, but its only really because of the big korv case from Rashan while Galain was at 3 votes ( i think) then the immediate korv vote from Galain as well, (though this could also be because he saw an opportunity to try and get the train off him ) I will try and go back and see if i can find any more detail later.
Also do we have any idea when nigth is ending? (im assuming its night now)

GL also agreed, positing that Galain was displaying symp behaviour toward Rashan, a good example being the following:

Galain, on Aug 28 2009, 08:46 AM, said:

That is actually a pretty good case Rashan, with some pretty solid reasoning.

Some of the statements he has made have been pretty puzzling. I'm not sure if scum would draw so much attention themselves, but it has worked for some in the past.

My main problem with voting Korv has been that I keep letting meta interfere with my judgement of him, which is possibly a bad thing. I'm not sure if we have enough time for a lynch but

vote Korvalain

Now Rashan's case was not without merit although subsequent events have obviously revealed Korv as inno. My problem with Galain here is that he agrees with Rashan but the underlined segments show that doesn't actually think Korv is scum.. But then he slaps a vote on poor old Korvy anyway. That to me is scummy.

Then he goes back to posting contentless nothings:

Galain, on Aug 28 2009, 09:06 AM, said:

Well it doesnt look like there will be a lynch then. Hopefully Morgy wont be out too long and we can get a resolution to night sometime soon.

and:

Galain, on Aug 28 2009, 06:19 PM, said:

Dude, the board only just came back up, gonna be a while before everyone realises.

Besides, day had technically timed out when the board crashed, morgy just wasnt around to end it. Hopefully we will have a resolution as soon as a mod drops by.

and:

Galain, on Aug 28 2009, 06:28 PM, said:

Ok, I think the board was still up for a couple of minutes after that, so we are technically in night now.

Edit @ Korv

and:

Galain, on Aug 28 2009, 06:56 PM, said:

Is anyone else getting intermittent "Connection to server Reset" messages? They're very annoying.

There were a few more but I'm not going to bore you all with them.


Then this:

Galain, on Aug 29 2009, 09:21 AM, said:

Well of the people in the list, I would think Korv is the most likely to have been vigged. Maybe someone felt they could make up for the lack of a lynch yesterday?

Why is Korv the most likely to be vigged. What evidence is there?

Also, two of the people killed last night had voted for Galain.

I can see two scenarios here.

First: Galain is a symp and his master (Rashan?) acted last night to protect him
Second: Galain is the SK and acted last night to protect himself.

Combined with his scummy, empty case on me yesterday (oh yes, I still have some OMGUS in the bank!), his middle of the roading and general all round scummy whiff I am going to kick-start day three and

vote Galain

[Emurlahn]

Hrm, interesting. The only issue I can find with your reasoning, at a glance, is the fact that it was two people who voted for Galain that died. I mean, one kill = one voter dead. So, you'd have to do a whole bunch of WIFOM reasoning as to why one other was chosen.

Galain symped Rashan.
Galain votes Korv, but was claiming he doesn't find Korv scummy (so, preparing for inno result, but also, ofc, just voting to help save his own train).
Now, Korv dies that night. Galain pops on to say that he thinks Korv was most likely vigged out of that lot. Why? To put the idea in people's heads that Korv was a vig not a NK, thus removing the suspicion of the relation to Galain's death.

Well, that's a stretch, and starting on the assumption that Galain is a symp/partner, which I don't like to do, really...

Nice and early in the day yet, though.

[D'riss]

ok, here briefly as well, before work.

I agree it takes some WIFOM to see the Galain "case", which is why i'm not entirely convinced with it.

otoh, I don't really like the "Korv was most likely to be vigged" statement--imho, SK could'e just as well thouhgt he was scum, and Ano could've been vigged for his Day 1 antics.

sigh, the problem is, there are just too many possible scenarios.

my gut still screams Rashan, but I'll withold voting for now. there should still be like 29 hours left or something in the day, so I won't vote untill i'm back from work and untill I've heard more people speak.

[Emurlahn]

Bah, I'm out for the night. See you all tomorrow. Had a thing on all day today, so thus my few posts. More discussion tomorrow!

[Eloth]

Well, I'm going to make the most of the sunshine and will be back this evening.

[D'riss]

*sighs wistfully*

I have to deal with the aftereffects of a tropical stom today... it's supposed ot rain and be cold as hell.

nonetheless, I'll also be back in the evening.

[Rashan]

morning.

three dead then. Well makes things easier i suppose to narrow down i list of suspects, but all town, that is disappointing.

i am not galains master, and i wonder why you think he is symping me, when i made a case on korvalain as he was at 3 votes? how exactly would i have known he was my symp had i been the killer? suggestions like that are always suspect.

[Ruse]

Damn 3 kills. I have to agree the 3rd was most likely a vig, im not sure why everyones acting up quite as much about the "Korv was the vig" statement as that was my first thought as well,ive since realised that as its nto a straight town-scum game theres more of a chance thats wrong. Anyone know if were ina weekend break or not?

[Rashan]

Ruse, on Aug 28 2009, 07:11 PM, said:

Having reread the last few pages the only thing i noticed was a possibility of a connection between Galain and Rashan, but its only really because of the big korv case from Rashan while Galain was at 3 votes ( i think) then the immediate korv vote from Galain as well, (though this could also be because he saw an opportunity to try and get the train off him ) I will try and go back and see if i can find any more detail later.
Also do we have any idea when nigth is ending? (im assuming its night now)

so making a case when someone is at three votes is symping? or are we partnered?

Emurlahn, on Aug 29 2009, 11:31 AM, said:

Hrm, interesting. The only issue I can find with your reasoning, at a glance, is the fact that it was two people who voted for Galain that died. I mean, one kill = one voter dead. So, you'd have to do a whole bunch of WIFOM reasoning as to why one other was chosen.

Galain symped Rashan.
Galain votes Korv, but was claiming he doesn't find Korv scummy (so, preparing for inno result, but also, ofc, just voting to help save his own train).
Now, Korv dies that night. Galain pops on to say that he thinks Korv was most likely vigged out of that lot. Why? To put the idea in people's heads that Korv was a vig not a NK, thus removing the suspicion of the relation to Galain's death.

Well, that's a stretch, and starting on the assumption that Galain is a symp/partner, which I don't like to do, really...

Nice and early in the day yet, though.

how did galain symp me exactly? by voting for the only other possible lynch train?

[Ruse]

I wasnt suggesting you were the master when i made the comment, i thought it more likely you were the symp or a partner, definitely somone who knew Galain was a killer. Im not sure where people have got the idea you were the master, probably becuase Galain fiollowed your vote, but that was an obvious step for him as it was the only case that wasnt himself, i think you could be a symp or partner because of the way out you gave him by the case on Korv.

[Rashan]

anyway, just out of bed, back later.

[Ruse]

At point i was just mentioning what my first thoughts were, it wasnt meant to be a concrete case.

[Rashan]

Ruse, on Aug 29 2009, 12:46 PM, said:

I wasnt suggesting you were the master when i made the comment, i thought it more likely you were the symp or a partner, definitely somone who knew Galain was a killer. Im not sure where people have got the idea you were the master, probably becuase Galain fiollowed your vote, but that was an obvious step for him as it was the only case that wasnt himself, i think you could be a symp or partner because of the way out you gave him by the case on Korv.

i put a case on korvalain because of the reasons posted. the galain case has merit as well, and has been confounded by the night kills.

obdi made accusations against a few players but went after the low posters with votes, to me that is scum 101. when he switched from hp to you after hp responded it seemed obvious he was (despite his outrageous post count) coasting.

[Rashan]

Ruse, on Aug 29 2009, 12:47 PM, said:

At point i was just mentioning what my first thoughts were, it wasnt meant to be a concrete case.

you should be aware then that eloth is using your symp accusation as the basis for his case above ^ even though he didnt vote me, but voted galain. strangely at this point in time i am most wary of emurlahn for some reason. case later. breakfast now.

[Eloth]

Rashan, on Aug 29 2009, 12:51 PM, said:

Ruse, on Aug 29 2009, 12:47 PM, said:

At point i was just mentioning what my first thoughts were, it wasnt meant to be a concrete case.

you should be aware then that eloth is using your symp accusation as the basis for his case above ^ even though he didnt vote me, but voted galain. strangely at this point in time i am most wary of emurlahn for some reason. case later. breakfast now.

Actually, I'm not.

I stated that Ruse's post helped solidify my suspicions against Galain by positing another reason for his scummy whiff, i.e. he could be symping. The fact that he voted Korv in response to your post, even though he disagreed that Korv was scummy in his response, seems...odd.

I still don't see why it is so obvious that Korv was vigged either.

Personally I lean toward Galain being the SK, but will not rule out the symp theory. When I get a chance I'll see if he has any other connection to Rashan.

[Eloth]

Bloody hell! 3 hours later I'm back and nowt has happened. Boo.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 23 hours and 17 minutes remaining

9 Players still alive: D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Rashan, Ruse, Serc

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night

1 vote for Galain: ( Eloth )

Players not voted: D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Rashan, Ruse, Serc


Not sure if Morgy is normally MIA on weekends so if updates are infrequent, I apologize, but that's the best I can offer you guys right now.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 29 August 2009 - 05:29 PM