[Hood's Path]

Thyrllan, on Jul 29 2009, 02:53 PM, said:

I can't think D'riss is an evil.

I thought your reveal was bullshit too.

Ruse posted just after the start of day 2, so he avoided Modkill.

I need to do some work then go re-read the after-language lessons section of day 1.

BBL.

i stated that, but he is grasping at straws now and claiming we must have concocted this together somehow. like i aint in the spotlight enough, i mean if we were paired killers i think the distancing atthe end of day 1 would have been enough to get you most of the way through, trying to drag the mods into a ci situation is hazardous and against the spirit of the game. we cant afford to fuck things up now and he is still pushing the day 1 stuff and despite everything he is still calling bullshit. dont buy it, there is blinkered and then there is just uncaring.

[Karatallid]

Either scenario, I don't like Emur and I don't like his pop on-vote-disappear.

Vote Emurlahn

[D'riss]

Not really grasping at straws. I said yesterday that your reveal was unproveable for exactly this reason-you could just claim to have given the ability to your partner and they would confirm. So it's hardly as if i'm just coming up with something out of the blue. Of course you all decided to lynch serc instead...

[Hood's Path]

D'riss, on Jul 29 2009, 02:58 PM, said:

Hood's Path, on Jul 29 2009, 02:52 PM, said:

D'riss, on Jul 29 2009, 02:45 PM, said:

For fuck sake.

So Thyr may or may not have a heal, or may have a vig.

I still think HP looks scummy as fuck. And Thyr is being inconsistent and starting to look like they may both be scum.

Thyrllan, on Jul 29 2009, 02:27 PM, said:

He told me I received a Vig via the Catapults.

Thyrllan, on Jul 29 2009, 02:41 PM, said:

so Path-Shaper responded and said I will find out after the end of day just how I can use the catapults.

Vote stays.

fine then.

vote driss

OMGUS much?

Look at it from my point of view:

Thyr comes on today and asks a fairly ambiguous question. You say you gave him a heal. He says he got a vig. He then says PS messed up, which is unconfirmable. He may have recieved a heal. This is unproveable.

You could quite easily both be scum-as that is who you would say, if scum, who you gave the ability to, another scum.

The fact that your stories weren't consistent doesn't really help at all either, because it just stirs confusion.

mate - all i got told was i deliver supplies which are the same as a guard or a heal. thyr comes ona nd says he got supplies i removed my vote. he says he got a catapult and i am lying as thats a vig. ps sends me a message saying catapults are heals, fireworks are guards. i say this on thread, thyr calls bs saying he has been told its a vig. he checks, ps denies he says its a vig, was talkign about something else, will be explained at night.

thats it in a nutshell. i know i cant give to yellow army, so i know thyr is inno.

i freely admit i have made a fucking pigs ear of this game, but i am trying to make up for it. you have to balance the fact that the reveal fits with the poor way i went about it. also why would i if thyr and i were partnered, have dragged him into it today? i certainly wouldnt have voted him straight off and drew attention onto myself once again.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 20 hours, 52 minutes remaining.

9 players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Ruse, Thyrllan

5 votes to lynch. 5 to go to night.

1 vote Hood's path (D'riss)
2 Vote D'riss (Emurlahn, Hood's Path)
1 vote Emurlahn (Karatallid)

Players not voted: Ampelas, Galayn Lord, Kaschan, Ruse, Thyrllan

[Galayn Lord]

Um...small question...not even sure what it means, if anything, but how could Ampelas have hammered when the reveal was at the same time as the level 1 vote? Probably nothing, but I don't think we should PI someone on a false premise.

[D'riss]

I don't know, but that doesn't stop you being scum. Anyway, there are 4 anons here, and I think that we're probably allowing the killers to hide behind our argument so i'm going to drop it for now.

Remove vote

[Hood's Path]

Galayn Lord, on Jul 29 2009, 03:10 PM, said:

Um...small question...not even sure what it means, if anything, but how could Ampelas have hammered when the reveal was at the same time as the level 1 vote? Probably nothing, but I don't think we should PI someone on a false premise.

was i not on l-1 when he came on and voted you? if i am wrong then i am, my brain is clearly not functioning anyway so i wouldnt be surprised. i didnt even realise ruse posted today, and i remember next to nothing about kaschan.

[D'riss]

Galayn Lord, on Jul 29 2009, 03:10 PM, said:

Um...small question...not even sure what it means, if anything, but how could Ampelas have hammered when the reveal was at the same time as the level 1 vote? Probably nothing, but I don't think we should PI someone on a false premise.

Yeah, i'd agree here, I don't think ampelas should be PI'd.

I mean, GL put HP on a cross-post with HPs reveal, and Ampelas removed vote within a minute. Doesn't give much time for a quick hammer.

[D'riss]

Also, it would look scummy as fuck to hammer then-because it would be right after the reveal when everyone else was removing.

[Hood's Path]

remove vote

i am willing to talk things through and see if we have anything else to go on. there is a new case on emur to consider as karat moves to one side of the road, i would like to hear a response to that.

[Galayn Lord]

You have to admit, if HP and Thyr are paired (whether inno or scum) they have made a real pigs guts of the reveal business. I'm not about to CI or even PI them yet, but I really don't think they are paired!

[D'riss]

Think Ampelas voted GL while you were a few away from a lynch still.

Also, he could've voetd you, but chose to vote someone who had no votes, with two hours left. I'm hardly perfect role model in this respect, but I probably would've voted for a lynch in the end.

Anyway, g2g, be back later, will discuss then.

[Galayn Lord]

Hood's Path, on Jul 29 2009, 03:12 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on Jul 29 2009, 03:10 PM, said:

Um...small question...not even sure what it means, if anything, but how could Ampelas have hammered when the reveal was at the same time as the level 1 vote? Probably nothing, but I don't think we should PI someone on a false premise.

was i not on l-1 when he came on and voted you? if i am wrong then i am, my brain is clearly not functioning anyway so i wouldnt be surprised. i didnt even realise ruse posted today, and i remember next to nothing about kaschan.

No you were level 3. Not that it's an issue, I simply didn't want anyone PI'd for the wrong reasons.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 20 hours, 39 minutes remaining.

9 players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Ruse, Thyrllan

5 votes to lynch. 5 to go to night.

1 Vote D'riss (Emurlahn)
1 vote Emurlahn (Karatallid)

Players not voted: Ampelas, D'riss, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Ruse, Thyrllan

[Hood's Path]

my list was just my suspicions, obviously i dont expect anyone else to ci me or thyrllan.

[Karatallid]

so hp, what do you think about Emur? You put all that pressure on him, and he comes out and votes for the one putting pressure on you. cool as a cucumber inno player? Or scum trying to take out a threat?

(or you're scum, I'm not ruling that out)

[Hood's Path]

Karatallid, on Jul 29 2009, 03:26 PM, said:

so hp, what do you think about Emur? You put all that pressure on him, and he comes out and votes for the one putting pressure on you. cool as a cucumber inno player? Or scum trying to take out a threat?

(or you're scum, I'm not ruling that out)

i didnt like him yesterday, and i didnt get the out of the blue nature of the vote, but driss was very aggressive from when he came on yesterday so i certainly sympathise with the vote. i think i need a proper reread of what emurlahn has done or said since the 3 votes yesterday.

[Hood's Path]

Emurlahn, on Jul 28 2009, 06:47 PM, said:

Ok so at the moment im probabaly more suspicious of HP out of most people because i dont like how he has been putting words in peoples mouths and maybe skirting a few questions a bit. Serc, while he has been jumping around a bit im less suspicious of as he just seems to be indecisive rather than scum to me. I agree that thyrllans contribution hasnt been amazing so afr but its day one so im willing to see if that improves.

Vote HP
i may be around a bit before the deadline but im not entirely sure so il leave a vote now.

Emurlahn, on Jul 29 2009, 01:55 PM, said:

Well right now, im torn while i think HP's reveal is utter BS and has lots of holes in most of what hes saying that doesnt necessarily make him scum, im inclined to think he may be an inno who just pulled a useful role out of his arse so he wasnt lynched. D'riss on the other hand im not liking right now, all the talk during night was not useful and could definitely have been harmful, its never a good idea to speculate about the kills and lynch plans during the night period as this just allows scum more possibilities of WIFOM and similar and could easily be signalling to masters or partners. So right now until i see a good justification of this
Vote D'riss

here are emurs two votes, and he doesnt just vote. each time he actually builds his reasons for the vote. He also discusses what is happening, so its not like he ignores the thread and he has a point about driss's talk about definite plans.

Are there specific posts you find scummy, if so can you quote them and make a proper case?

[Karatallid]

It's more context than anything. He came on and voted D'riss right off the bat, before all the reveal clarification. I don't get why he was so eager, especially since D'riss wasn't really under scrutiny (not to say that he shouldn't be).

Here's his defense:

Quote

Ok, i come back after sleeping and now have 3 votes. The "summary" was more just trying to get some people onto the thread as noone had said anything for maybe 4 hours and it worked, the summary part was clearly a joke. Of the 3 votes I dont have a clue about Thyrlan as his entire post was just a vote for me and i dont think (iirc) hes been back since. Sercs vote seemed to be an attempt to do sometihng so i dont mind that one, HP's comments about voting me because he didnt want to split the pack are very weird as that just doesnt really promote discussion at all.

It just struck me as lame.

Also, those posts you quoted above are very summary-esque, coupled with a vote. They're hardly cases. I know I know - I ridiculed that as a legit scum finding idea, but what makes this different is they're coupled with votes that seem more off the cuff than their explanation would lead one to believe. It's not your typical "post a summary to appear helpful". It seems more like "post a summary to pseudo justify your votes". The votes themselves (who they're for and when they are placed) is what makes me suspicious.