[Emurlahn]

Ok so at the moment im probabaly more suspicious of HP out of most people because i dont like how he has been putting words in peoples mouths and maybe skirting a few questions a bit. Serc, while he has been jumping around a bit im less suspicious of as he just seems to be indecisive rather than scum to me. I agree that thyrllans contribution hasnt been amazing so afr but its day one so im willing to see if that improves.

Vote HP
i may be around a bit before the deadline but im not entirely sure so il leave a vote now.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 3 hours, 4 minutes remaining.

12 players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Sorrit, Thyrllan

7 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.

1 vote Emurlahn (Hood's Path)
4 votes Hood's Path (Sorrit, D'riss, Thyrllan, Emurlahn)
1 vote Thyrllan (Serc)
2 votes Serc (Karatallid, Galayn Lord)


Not voted: Ampelas, Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse

[Kaschan]

Holy Clusterfuck Batman!

That was confusing. Real confusing. Don't rage at me Sorrit, it's pretty damned hard to vote when you aren't online.

So, Karat originally struck my scumdar. However, I agree with those that say this is very interesting day one activity, meaning one of two things:

(1) Scum was targeted and symps went to work. Most likely.
(2) Low spam made for a much more vigorous counter-reaction to cases. Less likely.

I'm going to do a re-read, because I don't think I have a good enough handle on exactly all that's been thrown out there yet. I will vote, however, because there is simply to much shit being thrown for it not to hit either symp or scum, the trick is picking the right one.

[Sorrit]

Kaschan, on Jul 28 2009, 07:32 PM, said:

That was confusing. Real confusing. Don't rage at me Sorrit, it's pretty damned hard to vote when you aren't online.

:zanth:




Just kidding.

[Ampelas]

Just woke up a little bit ago. I've caught up, but I'm still unsure about exactly who's attacking who over what. So give me a minute to sort this all out in my head...

But the biggest thing that stuck out to me as I caught up was GL:

Galayn Lord, on Jul 28 2009, 07:49 AM, said:

I am back and surprised by HP's stance. I think his argument is that at three votes (although one is a joke?), when only seven are required, any counter must be a defense. But I agree with Sorrit that is a dangerous argument to follow, as the natural conclusion is it means once the train has started we can't have any other choices.

If that's not what you mean then fair enough, but you aren't explaining yourself very well.


Edit: Cross post.

Galayn Lord, on Jul 28 2009, 08:42 AM, said:

I hesitate to agree with anyone at this (or any other) point of the game tbh, especially as you are all clearly acting scummy, but HPs logic is sorely lacking.

Yes Emurlahn is a viable suspect as scum, but no more than anyone else. High amount of spam in a low spam game? Well hactually I think you will find I had the most spam...although that might not be the wisest thing to point out... .

Lack of content...well it was early day 1, when do we ever have content early day 1? And before anyone says I am symping anyone I am not, I'll vote for any of you at this point in the game. But if we are going to lynch someone let it be on a factual case not because someone isn't the highest spammer, is one of many who hasn't posted content or because someone else has voted for one on the train.

At the moment I am concerned about Karatallid's posts. Seem very middle of the road to me.

Edit: Cross post.

Galayn Lord, on Jul 28 2009, 11:11 AM, said:

Well for me the most suspicious thing has been Serc's behaviour. He drops a second vote on Emurlahn, but when that train seems to stall he has a spat with Karatallid, but that didn't go anywhere (and depending on timing) could be seen as OMGUS (but that could apply to Karatallid as well). He then votes Thyrllan, which if it doesn't start a train will leave him comfortably able to hop on to another train later in the day.

I think Sorrit and HP are probably not scum, but I think there was something strange about that Emurlahn train...meh, could be Emur himself, but HP's arguments don't work for me. I think it has to do with Serc saying he thought HP's vote was sus but doing/saying nothing about it.

Vote Serc

Edit: Cross post

I'm seeing a lot of summarizing and "I think so and so is blah". The lines I made bigger really jumped out at me in particular. Followed by very tentative accusations on various people, and then a final vote on Serc. Throwing around votes is his chief reasoning--but from what I've seen, a lot of different people have been throwing around votes. And a vote =/= a case, as with Serc's first vote.

edit: ...and I forgot to read the last page. Fuck me. Which leaves 4 votes on HP with 3 hours left.

This post has been edited by Ampelas: 28 July 2009 - 06:49 PM

[Ampelas]

Is anyone else there? At this point it seems like the chief argument against HP is that he laid down a "sheeple" vote and called it pressure, then proceeded to accuse people who attacked his argument of symping Emur. This doesn't strike me as scum. Hell, I'm seeing more of a paranoid inno--after all, how many scum would throw themselves out in the open like that?

[Hood's Path]

Ampelas, on Jul 28 2009, 07:52 PM, said:

Is anyone else there? At this point it seems like the chief argument against HP is that he laid down a "sheeple" vote and called it pressure, then proceeded to accuse people who attacked his argument of symping Emur. This doesn't strike me as scum. Hell, I'm seeing more of a paranoid inno--after all, how many scum would throw themselves out in the open like that?

according to driss that was me playing quietly, oh no wait thats what i would supposedly have done if no one had spoken to me...

i still like my vote on emurlahn, no one has defended me, yet two people (despite their protestations) have been defending emurlahn.

[Ampelas]

Hood's Path, on Jul 28 2009, 02:58 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Jul 28 2009, 07:52 PM, said:

Is anyone else there? At this point it seems like the chief argument against HP is that he laid down a "sheeple" vote and called it pressure, then proceeded to accuse people who attacked his argument of symping Emur. This doesn't strike me as scum. Hell, I'm seeing more of a paranoid inno--after all, how many scum would throw themselves out in the open like that?

according to driss that was me playing quietly, oh no wait thats what i would supposedly have done if no one had spoken to me...

i still like my vote on emurlahn, no one has defended me, yet two people (despite their protestations) have been defending emurlahn.

What? You're confusing me about D'riss now.
edit: clarification

This post has been edited by Ampelas: 28 July 2009 - 07:00 PM

[D'riss]

I'm back because everything hasn't gone to plan.

I have not protested about the fact I am defending Emurlahn. I am attacking you, you attacked Emur, and in what I saw as a scummy way. I could hardly attack you without defending him.

You are, yet again, strawmanning. I didn't say that was you playing quietly. I said that you were middle of the road until you were attacked, at which point you started accusing people of being Emurlahns symps.

Edit: Dinner, back soon.

This post has been edited by D'riss: 28 July 2009 - 07:16 PM

[Hood's Path]

D'riss, on Jul 28 2009, 08:09 PM, said:

I'm back because everything hasn't gone to plan.

I have not protested about the fact I am defending Emurlahn. I am attacking you, you attacked Emur, and in what I saw as a scummy way. I could hardly attack you without defending him.

You are, yet again, strawmanning. I didn't say that was you playing quietly. I said that you were middle of the road until you were attacked, at which point you started accusing people of being Emurlahns symps.

no you said i was middle of the road and would have continued that way. my vote on emurlah was like my third or fourth post and i discussed it from then on. i was never middle of the road, and your statement was i would have been middle of the orad if no one attacked me but if you read it, i never played middle of the road so you are just making shit up.

[Kaschan]

Serc, on Jul 28 2009, 01:35 PM, said:

aaah

lets remove vote
vote karatalid

Ill remove my vote if you can come up with somthing of your own...
Statements like

Karatallid, on Jul 28 2009, 03:48 AM, said:

Ok, I'm interested in seeing more from HP, Sorrit, Serc and it would be nice for Emur to show up too.

I have some speculations, but they are just a sort of circular reasoning based on the back and forth that has already happened. Moar plz.

dont cut it for me...you want others to do all the work?



edit - major xpostage...

Just randomly... What in the hell happened here? This is a "cross-post" of epic time proportions: ~1:45. Did you fall asleep when posting this, Serc?

Edit: I'm ghetto re-reading.

This post has been edited by Kaschan: 28 July 2009 - 07:26 PM

[Ampelas]

D'riss is nekkid.

And since my post about GL is being ignored...

Vote Galayn Lord

[D'riss]

Hood's Path, on Jul 28 2009, 08:17 PM, said:

D'riss, on Jul 28 2009, 08:09 PM, said:

I'm back because everything hasn't gone to plan.

I have not protested about the fact I am defending Emurlahn. I am attacking you, you attacked Emur, and in what I saw as a scummy way. I could hardly attack you without defending him.

You are, yet again, strawmanning. I didn't say that was you playing quietly. I said that you were middle of the road until you were attacked, at which point you started accusing people of being Emurlahns symps.

no you said i was middle of the road and would have continued that way. my vote on emurlah was like my third or fourth post and i discussed it from then on. i was never middle of the road, and your statement was i would have been middle of the orad if no one attacked me but if you read it, i never played middle of the road so you are just making shit up.

Your vote was middle of the road. After your vote you were forced to defend.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 1 hour, 27 minutes remaining.

12 players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Sorrit, Thyrllan

7 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.

1 vote Emurlahn (Hood's Path)
4 votes Hood's Path (Sorrit, D'riss, Thyrllan, Emurlahn)
1 vote Thyrllan (Serc)
2 votes Serc (Karatallid, Galayn Lord)
1 vote Galayn Lord (Ampelas)

Not voted: Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse


I needn't remind people to get some provisionals in!

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 28 July 2009 - 10:59 PM

[D'riss]

As for would have continued that way, I believe you would have. I also said that, obviously, I couldn't prove this. However, you were middle of the road until actively forced.

This post has been edited by D'riss: 28 July 2009 - 07:33 PM

[D'riss]

Also, Ampelas, I don't like your vote on GL. The case is nice enough, and I can see where you're coming from with it, but we've got 2 hours left, and you're the only person voting him. There's almost no chance of him being lynched, so it seems scummy-putting a vote elsewhere and thus staying out of the action.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 1 hour, 12 minutes remaining.

12 players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Sorrit, Thyrllan

7 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.

1 vote Emurlahn (Hood's Path)
4 votes Hood's Path (Sorrit, D'riss, Thyrllan, Emurlahn)
1 vote Thyrllan (Serc)
2 votes Serc (Karatallid, Galayn Lord)
1 vote Galayn Lord (Ampelas)

Not voted: Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse

Leaving work, you'll be modless for up to an hour depending on how bad the traffic is, but you all know what to do if a lynch doth occur.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 28 July 2009 - 10:59 PM

[D'riss]

Path-Shaper, on Jul 28 2009, 08:47 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 2 hours, 12 minutes remaining.

12 players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Sorrit, Thyrllan

7 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.

1 vote Emurlahn (Hood's Path)
4 votes Hood's Path (Sorrit, D'riss, Thyrllan, Emurlahn)
1 vote Thyrllan (Serc)
2 votes Serc (Karatallid, Galayn Lord)
1 vote Galayn Lord (Ampelas)

Not voted: Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse

Leaving work, you'll be modless for up to an hour depending on how bad the traffic is, but you all know what to do if a lynch doth occur.

Yeah. The scum knows who's inno and who isn't so if they could just step forward and CF for us...

[Hood's Path]

D'riss, on Jul 28 2009, 08:44 PM, said:

Also, Ampelas, I don't like your vote on GL. The case is nice enough, and I can see where you're coming from with it, but we've got 2 hours left, and you're the only person voting him. There's almost no chance of him being lynched, so it seems scummy-putting a vote elsewhere and thus staying out of the action.

and now you are coming out with this shit, you little toe rag. so its scummy now to not vote on your case.

i wonder if i could code fucktard into a sentence.

remove vote

vote driss

cause the shit your spouting is really getting up my goat.

[Kaschan]

Jesus. A LOT of players seem scummy. Which to me screams confused innos. I'm pretty fucking pissed that I'm only on here for the end of the day. Let me think a bit more, before voting.