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Mafia 50: The Yellow Turban Rebellion Long live the Way of Peace

#221 User is offline   Galayn Lord 

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:11 PM

Well for me the most suspicious thing has been Serc's behaviour. He drops a second vote on Emurlahn, but when that train seems to stall he has a spat with Karatallid, but that didn't go anywhere (and depending on timing) could be seen as OMGUS (but that could apply to Karatallid as well). He then votes Thyrllan, which if it doesn't start a train will leave him comfortably able to hop on to another train later in the day.

I think Sorrit and HP are probably not scum, but I think there was something strange about that Emurlahn train...meh, could be Emur himself, but HP's arguments don't work for me. I think it has to do with Serc saying he thought HP's vote was sus but doing/saying nothing about it.

Vote Serc

Edit: Cross post

This post has been edited by Galayn Lord: 28 July 2009 - 03:11 PM


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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:12 PM

i aint changing my vote. too many people have weighed in on one side or the other.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:13 PM

It is Day 1. 5 hours, 46 minutes remaining.

12 players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Sorrit, Thyrllan

7 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.

1 vote Emurlahn (Hood's Path)
2 votes Hood's Path (Sorrit, D'riss)
1 vote Thyrllan (Serc)
2 votes Serc (Karatallid, Galayn Lord)


Not voted: Ampelas, Emurlahn, Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse, Thyrllan
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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:13 PM

 D'riss, on Jul 28 2009, 04:11 PM, said:

 Serc, on Jul 28 2009, 04:09 PM, said:

Maybe we would be better served by voting off someone who has tried to stay out of this arguing....
like say....THYR!!! :)

i wouldn't want to get involved if i were scum....i would if one of my partners were involved....but even then rather unwittingly.

Do you maybe mean unwillingly?

After HP the middle of the road players are probably next.

However, I think HP probably would stay out of things if he hadn't been pulled up on stuff. His original vote is rather middle of the road, it just follows you, with the easy pressure excuse. I think if he had the choice he would rather happily be middle of the roading.


now you arent even trying to make an argument you are just guessing what i may have done :)

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:15 PM

 Serc, on Jul 28 2009, 09:54 AM, said:

 Thyrllan, on Jul 28 2009, 05:36 AM, said:

Double Double Toil and Trouble!

Catching up.



 Thyrllan, on Jul 28 2009, 05:43 AM, said:

As I noted, I voted for him because he claimed to have put on an invisability cloak, and so must be a warlock.

That is what we in the business call a 'joke vote'.

I skimmed through, noone seems to want to talk to me but I need to actually read it all to figure out why you people are being so ... interesting.



 Thyrllan, on Jul 28 2009, 06:23 AM, said:

Lynch Serc for thinking 'allot' is a word, in my opinion.

:)

You are all freaks, but I am going to
remove vote
For now.

I need to do some stuff, will be back soon.




Thyrs pnly contribution to everything has t do with why he voted....and then.....nothing.
Doesnt add anything in the 40 or so minutes we are all giving each other a hard time.

Might be sitting bakc and enjoying the carnage...

Remove vote....
Vote Thyrlan


Lets see if this will make him more involved....im very wary of players who play like this on day one.
They could be killers who just want to stay out of the main pissing fights so he can make it through the day without much notice.


Your third vote on day one and you ignore my other posts, so grats on attempted strawmanning I guess. I also enjoy how you basicly just repeat what others have said, but hey, whatever works for you.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:16 PM

 Hood's Path, on Jul 28 2009, 04:13 PM, said:

 D'riss, on Jul 28 2009, 04:11 PM, said:

 Serc, on Jul 28 2009, 04:09 PM, said:

Maybe we would be better served by voting off someone who has tried to stay out of this arguing....
like say....THYR!!! :)

i wouldn't want to get involved if i were scum....i would if one of my partners were involved....but even then rather unwittingly.

Do you maybe mean unwillingly?

After HP the middle of the road players are probably next.

However, I think HP probably would stay out of things if he hadn't been pulled up on stuff. His original vote is rather middle of the road, it just follows you, with the easy pressure excuse. I think if he had the choice he would rather happily be middle of the roading.


now you arent even trying to make an argument you are just guessing what i may have done :)

Yes, I obviously can't prove what you would have done.

However, you looked like you were trying to be middle of the road before you were pulled up, so I'm happy with my vote.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:16 PM

 D'riss, on Jul 28 2009, 07:07 AM, said:

One thing that really annoys me is how hung up people get about people defending others.

Why is it scummy for me to defend someone?

Consider:

I think he would be a bad lynch.
I think someone else would be a better lynch.

Therefore, it makes completely sense for me to defend the person I think would be a bad lynch, and try to get the person I think would be a better lynch lynched.


Actually we all would be better served by never defending anyone unless we know he is inno for sure.
As we know only symps must defend their masters.
If no innno ever defended anyone else this game would be easyer.
Also...you could be defending scum....you dont know it for sure.
Rather let the accused defend himslef....and only THEN come out and say your peace either way.

 D'riss, on Jul 28 2009, 07:07 AM, said:

Do I know he is inno? No.
Do I think he is more likely inno than you? Definetely.

So why shouldn't I defend him?

Because it makes me look scummy? That depends on how you look at it.

Yes, scum are going to defend each other. However, they are not the only people who do so-it hurts the team if the innos don't defend people they think are more likely innos.



I would rather you give me a case on who you think is scum and forget about any kind of defending....if it happens to be against the person that is attacking antoher person then there is nothing we can do about that.
Which is what the case is here.

I think you guys have not liked HP...rather thatn defending ehmurlahn.
So...as it would SEEM that ehmur is getting people defending him.
In reality...you are not.


I have to go now...i am gonna leave my vote on Thyr...as i think his non contribution could have something to it.
and i think you are all most likely just innos bickering over stupid play.

cheers...(wont be back for deadline)

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:17 PM

 Hood's Path, on Jul 28 2009, 10:11 AM, said:

 D'riss, on Jul 28 2009, 04:07 PM, said:

 Hood's Path, on Jul 28 2009, 04:02 PM, said:

 D'riss, on Jul 28 2009, 04:00 PM, said:

 Serc, on Jul 28 2009, 03:56 PM, said:

 D'riss, on Jul 28 2009, 06:51 AM, said:

 Hood's Path, on Jul 28 2009, 03:48 PM, said:

well i am glad you are so proud of talking a lot of shit. as for your point about my "case", it was a vote with a reason. I never said emurlahn spammed the most and never made out that he did either. You could vote for someone and cite their low post count, even if someone has less.


Yes. And then someone would rightfully ask why the hell you weren't voting for the lowest poster, if you are voting simply on low post count. Of course there would be other factors, so you'd have to assume same contribution in those posts. However, spam, by definition, lacks contribution, so in your case that doesn't matter.

I know you never said Emurlahn spammed most.

But why vote him for spam and not those doing it worse?





i believe he said earlyer it was to add pressure on an existing vote.
So i think he just voted for him to add pressure and the spam was some kind of added reason.

Thats my take on it anyway



edit - xpost

I know. But adding pressure is a really crap excuse, and strikes me as hopping on a train with a reason that can easily be ditched later. "I didn't really think he was that scummy-I was just adding pressure. Nothing wrong with that."

Also, he already had a vote, he already had some pressure, why not pressure someone with none?

To me it looks mlike trying to hop on a train discretely.



and your the second person today to come to his aid so to me you look like scum.

One thing that really annoys me is how hung up people get about people defending others.

Why is it scummy for me to defend someone?

Consider:

I think he would be a bad lynch.
I think someone else would be a better lynch.

Therefore, it makes completely sense for me to defend the person I think would be a bad lynch, and try to get the person I think would be a better lynch lynched.

Do I know he is inno? No.
Do I think he is more likely inno than you? Definetely.

So why shouldn't I defend him?

Because it makes me look scummy? That depends on how you look at it.

Yes, scum are going to defend each other. However, they are not the only people who do so-it hurts the team if the innos don't defend people they think are more likely innos.


because if inno he can defend himself. because it looks like your defending him and the only role int he game that would likely be wanting to defend another player is the symp. If your inno and they are guilty when lynched you would be next. if they are inno it doesnt clear you but you may come under suspicion as you could have been defending him as you knew he was inno.

theres some quick off the top of my head reasons why blatant defending is bad.


But they aren't blatantly defending anyone, they are poking holes in your shitty 'case'. There is a huge difference, although it seems one you cannot grasp, obviously you are not Maccy.

vote hoods path

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:18 PM

It is Day 1. 5 hours, 40 minutes remaining.

12 players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Sorrit, Thyrllan

7 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.

1 vote Emurlahn (Hood's Path)
3 votes Hood's Path (Sorrit, D'riss, Thyrllan)
1 vote Thyrllan (Serc)
2 votes Serc (Karatallid, Galayn Lord)


Not voted: Ampelas, Emurlahn, Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse
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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:20 PM

 Serc, on Jul 28 2009, 10:16 AM, said:

 D'riss, on Jul 28 2009, 07:07 AM, said:

One thing that really annoys me is how hung up people get about people defending others.

Why is it scummy for me to defend someone?

Consider:

I think he would be a bad lynch.
I think someone else would be a better lynch.

Therefore, it makes completely sense for me to defend the person I think would be a bad lynch, and try to get the person I think would be a better lynch lynched.


Actually we all would be better served by never defending anyone unless we know he is inno for sure.
As we know only symps must defend their masters.
If no innno ever defended anyone else this game would be easyer.
Also...you could be defending scum....you dont know it for sure.
Rather let the accused defend himslef....and only THEN come out and say your peace either way.

 D'riss, on Jul 28 2009, 07:07 AM, said:

Do I know he is inno? No.
Do I think he is more likely inno than you? Definetely.

So why shouldn't I defend him?

Because it makes me look scummy? That depends on how you look at it.

Yes, scum are going to defend each other. However, they are not the only people who do so-it hurts the team if the innos don't defend people they think are more likely innos.



I would rather you give me a case on who you think is scum and forget about any kind of defending....if it happens to be against the person that is attacking antoher person then there is nothing we can do about that.
Which is what the case is here.

I think you guys have not liked HP...rather thatn defending ehmurlahn.
So...as it would SEEM that ehmur is getting people defending him.
In reality...you are not.


I have to go now...i am gonna leave my vote on Thyr...as i think his non contribution could have something to it.
and i think you are all most likely just innos bickering over stupid play.

cheers...(wont be back for deadline)


So what you are saying is that:

1) Anyone who gets a case made against them should be lynched.
2) You think people don't like HP, not that they don't like his shitty case and his inability to grasp why his case is shitty.
3) And you claim others are not contributing when you regurgitate what others have said while having no 'new' thoughts of your own.

That is some interesting reasoning there.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:21 PM

i never made a case, i voted. Some of you lot really need to wind you fucking neck in.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:23 PM

 Serc, on Jul 28 2009, 04:16 PM, said:

 D'riss, on Jul 28 2009, 07:07 AM, said:

One thing that really annoys me is how hung up people get about people defending others.

Why is it scummy for me to defend someone?

Consider:

I think he would be a bad lynch.
I think someone else would be a better lynch.

Therefore, it makes completely sense for me to defend the person I think would be a bad lynch, and try to get the person I think would be a better lynch lynched.


Actually we all would be better served by never defending anyone unless we know he is inno for sure.
As we know only symps must defend their masters.
If no innno ever defended anyone else this game would be easyer.
Also...you could be defending scum....you dont know it for sure.
Rather let the accused defend himslef....and only THEN come out and say your peace either way.

No it wouldn't. The symps would simply stop defending people aswell, since the only way to coordinate such a thing would be to mention it somewhere. Also, it would only work once, after that they would stop defending. There are many ways of playing the game, and people play different. Roles do not always do the same thing.

 D'riss, on Jul 28 2009, 07:07 AM, said:

Do I know he is inno? No.
Do I think he is more likely inno than you? Definetely.

So why shouldn't I defend him?

Because it makes me look scummy? That depends on how you look at it.

Yes, scum are going to defend each other. However, they are not the only people who do so-it hurts the team if the innos don't defend people they think are more likely innos.



I would rather you give me a case on who you think is scum and forget about any kind of defending....if it happens to be against the person that is attacking antoher person then there is nothing we can do about that.
Which is what the case is here.

I think you guys have not liked HP...rather thatn defending ehmurlahn.
So...as it would SEEM that ehmur is getting people defending him.
In reality...you are not.


I have to go now...i am gonna leave my vote on Thyr...as i think his non contribution could have something to it.
and i think you are all most likely just innos bickering over stupid play.

cheers...(wont be back for deadline)

Yes, people are attacking HP. In a way, this is defending Emur, as it is attacking the case on him. However, if that is scummy, you could never attack someones suspicious cases or votes. Yes, it defends emur in a way. However, it is more just attacking HP for making a suspicious case.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:23 PM

 Hood's Path, on Jul 28 2009, 10:21 AM, said:

i never made a case, i voted. Some of you lot really need to wind you fucking neck in.


Your poor phrasing and idiotic alluding does not in any way make it seem like you are a reasonable or logical person.

Enjoy!

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:23 PM

 Hood's Path, on Jul 28 2009, 04:21 PM, said:

i never made a case, i voted. Some of you lot really need to wind you fucking neck in.

You voted, with reasons that the first vote had not given. That is your case against him.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:24 PM

Oh shit I'm agreeing with D'riss, we must be scummy together!

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:25 PM

 Thyrllan, on Jul 28 2009, 04:23 PM, said:

 Hood's Path, on Jul 28 2009, 10:21 AM, said:

i never made a case, i voted. Some of you lot really need to wind you fucking neck in.


Your poor phrasing and idiotic alluding does not in any way make it seem like you are a reasonable or logical person.

Enjoy!


:)

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:33 PM

Anyway, i'm off now-will be back tommorow.

I've said my piece, and am happy with my vote.

Will see you all tommorow.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 03:55 PM

It is Day 1. 5 hours, 4 minutes remaining.

12 players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Sorrit, Thyrllan

7 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.

1 vote Emurlahn (Hood's Path)
3 votes Hood's Path (Sorrit, D'riss, Thyrllan)
1 vote Thyrllan (Serc)
2 votes Serc (Karatallid, Galayn Lord)


Not voted: Ampelas, Emurlahn, Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse

You'll be modless for the next 45 min or so while I eat lunch :)
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 28 July 2009 - 04:58 PM

 Path-Shaper, on Jul 28 2009, 04:55 PM, said:

Not voted: Ampelas, Emurlahn, Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse


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Posted 28 July 2009 - 05:31 PM

It is Day 1. 3 hours, 28 minutes remaining.

12 players still alive: Ampelas, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Sorrit, Thyrllan

7 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.

1 vote Emurlahn (Hood's Path)
3 votes Hood's Path (Sorrit, D'riss, Thyrllan)
1 vote Thyrllan (Serc)
2 votes Serc (Karatallid, Galayn Lord)


Not voted: Ampelas, Emurlahn, Kaschan, Omtose, Ruse
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