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Silgoth is gloomy:

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tiss why I normaly die. People all stay silent and I get impatient and start pointing fingers to get things going. Someone's lynched and then it all comes back to kill me day 2.

Aye, but for example JA excels in letting the people lynch wildly and then guide them once the first few wild days are over, despite his early instincts - time to (re)learn that skill?

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Anobwgan:

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Is Korlat bwgan...what?

- Tapper

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Bwmandy and me (Bent) Seriously guys, watch out, when she hits her stride and gets cocky, we're all goners, lol

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Re your last post...yes I know that rolleyes.gif , but it was funny, because you mentioned PB...I thought you did that on purpose!

How are you anyhow, haven't 'seen' you in ages Bent...it is Bent in P-S now, isn't it? welcome.gif What you been up to? Or aren't you speaking to me since that joke in Lies? I did send a post to SH saying I love you really....

Surprise.gif I'm not on your list am I?

Well, its sort of me in here, work has been terrible, and time is limited. And Bwgan, I love you, you are my favorite person on the forum, but yes, you are on my list, mainly because you are very good, and thats dangerous. Believe me, if you had the confidence to back up your thought processes, you would rival JA and DIBs etc.

Oh, I am sooo relieved...not about your work troubles obviously...you have my sympathies there...but when you didn't reply I thought OMG I really have upset him.

You've made my night now though.

Believe me I know what it's like when work is bad...it had more than a little to do with my recent ill health. Seriously, don't let it get too bad. I know that's easier said than done (believe me I really do know) but in the end the pay packet can't buy you good health. /lecture]

Right, now I can go and play mafia without worrying...well that's a daft thing to say, given I am Wales' #1 worrier...but you know what I mean.

Yeah, I get it. But work isn't that BAD...its just alot to do and limited time to do it, leaves very little time for mafia play. But soehow I manage (wink). And now I am off to cook my wife dinner...I think Hot Pockets will do, maybe some potato chips on the side....lol.

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 Path-Shaper, on Jul 16 2009, 12:13 AM, said:

Bwmandy and me (Bent) Seriously guys, watch out, when she hits her stride and gets cocky, we're all goners, lol

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Re your last post...yes I know that rolleyes.gif , but it was funny, because you mentioned PB...I thought you did that on purpose!

How are you anyhow, haven't 'seen' you in ages Bent...it is Bent in P-S now, isn't it? welcome.gif What you been up to? Or aren't you speaking to me since that joke in Lies? I did send a post to SH saying I love you really....

Surprise.gif I'm not on your list am I?

Well, its sort of me in here, work has been terrible, and time is limited. And Bwgan, I love you, you are my favorite person on the forum, but yes, you are on my list, mainly because you are very good, and thats dangerous. Believe me, if you had the confidence to back up your thought processes, you would rival JA and DIBs etc.

Oh, I am sooo relieved...not about your work troubles obviously...you have my sympathies there...but when you didn't reply I thought OMG I really have upset him.

You've made my night now though.

Believe me I know what it's like when work is bad...it had more than a little to do with my recent ill health. Seriously, don't let it get too bad. I know that's easier said than done (believe me I really do know) but in the end the pay packet can't buy you good health. /lecture]

Right, now I can go and play mafia without worrying...well that's a daft thing to say, given I am Wales' #1 worrier...but you know what I mean.

Yeah, I get it. But work isn't that BAD...its just alot to do and limited time to do it, leaves very little time for mafia play. But soehow I manage (wink). And now I am off to cook my wife dinner...I think Hot Pockets will do, maybe some potato chips on the side....lol.

Enjoy dinner, Bent and I agree on bwgan being able to all wrap us up and toss us over her shoulder when she finds the confidence.

This post has been edited by Tapper: 15 July 2009 - 10:15 PM

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thanks...hey Tapper...do you sleep...ever? I mean, according to the time in your last post, its past midnight, and if I am not mistaken you started about 16 hours ago.....

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 Path-Shaper, on Jul 16 2009, 12:17 AM, said:

thanks...hey Tapper...do you sleep...ever? I mean, according to the time in your last post, its past midnight, and if I am not mistaken you started about 16 hours ago.....

I started at 9.00 with modding, start of the workday - 15 hours ago
going to bed now, will be back checking the thread over breakfast at 8.00 and then all through the day (altho I have a few meetings). I just have very convenient posting times and not a whole lot of obligations, generally

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Well, I'll be on for another5 hours there abouts. Night.

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From Shinritt

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Roleless Inno;

You can take a single night action.

You currently have no night actions.

Your victory condition is to eliminate all scum.

I would like to submit a night action:

Gain Night Action

Ok, I'm all set, thanks. smile.gif

Noted, lol
~Bent

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Bwgan, hiding very well at the on-set.

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It's funny, but being 'solo' scum is actually quite liberating. It's not like I have a team I am going to let down...although, given the reluctance of players to say very much I have a sneaky suspicion that we all got the same pm???? Which would be hilarious...and the absorption thing gets explained away by the victim not having any additional powers, so we simply think we are hitting town...either way, I guess this is going to be a pretty short game.

Anyway my lovely boys, I'm off shortly to get my beauty sleep, but I won't be announcing it on thread, because if I do Shin will guess it's me and try and get a preemptive kill in...oh, he acts all innocent, but don't be fooled, he's devilish! devil.gif ...Have you noticed in my posts? Not a single smiley...they give me away. *sigh*, but it is so hard not to use them.

Goodnight.

X

Nigh Bwgan, sweet dreams about kiling shin and using all the smilies you want...and other less innocent things.
~Bent

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Karosis

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I htink I'll pretend to be Silencer for this game, laugh.gif

I'll "sleep" while i'm at work, and i'll "work" while i'm asleep.

giving me about 4-5 hour posting window every day.

noted, and good luck maintaining the masquerade - you might get into trouble over the weekends when you don't 'work' but have to 'sleep' smile.gif

where are you getting the foolish notion that I don't work weekends? question.gif

I'm working on Saturday.
and on Sunday, i've got training at 6 AM, nd then a soccer game later on.

I'll shatter the illusion on Monday.
if I survive that long.

Anthras

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Gamelon = Lisheo

Galayn Lord = Silencer?

I can't believe that I thought that Dibs was in the game. It was because who ever I guessed as him didn't capital his first letter. I have to assume that morgy has already pin pointed me. I have given my self away in my third post I believe. The one were I talk about killing and gutting the wolf. wink.gif Can't help it. I have been doing good not talking about twisted dragon sex. I figure I will go to that after I live through the first day. smile.gif

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So...Why would Galayn Lord go and pick out too well separate quotes of mine just to join the conversation? Seems a bit odd and seems to single me out. Or it is scum trying too hard to 'make conversation' to get post count.

Or maybe its bwgan and she magically alt guessed me. tongue.gif

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I want to say GL is Shinrei because of the "gamelon" comment (benses game) but I'm not too sure why he'd be up that early. D: Maybe trying to throw people off.

Thats it for me.

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tiss why I normaly die. People all stay silent and I get impatient and start pointing fingers to get things going. Someone's lynched and then it all comes back to kill me day 2.

Aye, but for example JA excels in letting the people lynch wildly and then guide them once the first few wild days are over, despite his early instincts - time to (re)learn that skill?

I never was as good at leading as is JA. I was better than I am now, it is true, and I guess I should find my way back to that. The problem is that I don't like being idle. I want to participate. I love it when the thread explodes around me and all..

Which is why I should always be a vig or a ninja

Go on dreaming

But idleness is a part of the game - albeit a nasty part. Then again, you being quiet could also be a good learning process for others in how to make stuff 'splode.

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In other news:

I REALLY, REALLY, TOTALLY COMPLETELY can't comprehend why people in a high TMDI with emphasized lethality refuse to discuss mechanics and roles and even go so far as voting for the one person who does try to achieve something in that regard, unless these people are scum. Not discussing role distribution is for M&P only. So far, HD only brought up scum roles & numbers and he got voted for it, on account of it helping scum.


On day 1, you know nothing, tiss true, BUT at the least try and come with a hypothesis that you can adjust or falsify later on, for example, on account of the night actions, rather than start with making that still-likely-to-be-false hypothesis day 2. If not in public, then for yourself. But it's far better to do it publicly. You can always hang people later for being blatantly wrong/misleading.

Also, but this is a double edged sword: try to second guess the mod if you can. This time, it was announced that the attrition rate would be very high. That means that you have very few days if you don't hit scum fast, and probably independent killers or vigs on timers. All in all, from the announcements you can deduct that he upped the kill count to give you less time to sit on your hands and count your toes but tries to make it a do-or-die game, in which not doing anything is lethal?

Secondly, this particular mod likes to theorize and to have role discussion, as some old hands will know...

Town, you maybe pissed away a day on RP and pointing fingers and being vague if you don't start theorizing soon. Throwing a day away is going to come close to suicide in a game where the pace is high and it is being dictated by the killers rather than by the standard rules of 1 kill, 1 lynch. Basically, day 1 is the day where town isn't under any pressure and no-one is threatened by what they did or say previous days. Therefore, you can use day 1 constructively by setting the pace, by considering the options. What you see now instead is people laying low, covering their tracks, and waiting for the scum to kill so they have a number of kills, which is good info, but also so that they have to react to the killers rather than set the tune for the dance themselves.

I start to fear that this is going to be a finder related game pretty soon, where Gavin and DKT have to search for the scum with the rest of the town doing whatever they can imagine to stay alive (including ganging up on other players for little or no reason) and avoid voting their finders before they can reveal... which would be sad.

/end of mod mini-rant.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 16 July 2009 - 10:22 AM

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Silgoth and me, sitting in front of the fireplace in our nursery home, remembering the good ol' times:

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tiss why I normaly die. People all stay silent and I get impatient and start pointing fingers to get things going. Someone's lynched and then it all comes back to kill me day 2.

Aye, but for example JA excels in letting the people lynch wildly and then guide them once the first few wild days are over, despite his early instincts - time to (re)learn that skill?

I never was as good at leading as is JA. I was better than I am now, it is true, and I guess I should find my way back to that. The problem is that I don't like being idle. I want to participate. I love it when the thread explodes around me and all..

Which is why I should always be a vig or a ninja

Go on dreaming

But idleness is a part of the game - albeit a nasty part. Then again, you being quiet could also be a good learning process for others in how to make stuff 'splode.

haha, true enough. With DiBs not playing, JA gone for the time being, and me playing a healer.. Not to mention you and Bent modding and Lisheo being married at the tender age of 14.. yeah, perhaps

I know there's a lot of arrogance in this, but I do feel quite often that if I chose to remain quiet, absolutely nothing happens.. Unless DiBs is bored that is

well, we have some relatively new players who do know how to use their senses and mouths, but they need to build the confidence to stand up and shout from their soapbox just like the patronizing old guys we are, instead of respectfully shutting up when we speak

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Silgoth is talkative

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tiss why I normaly die. People all stay silent and I get impatient and start pointing fingers to get things going. Someone's lynched and then it all comes back to kill me day 2.

Aye, but for example JA excels in letting the people lynch wildly and then guide them once the first few wild days are over, despite his early instincts - time to (re)learn that skill?

I never was as good at leading as is JA. I was better than I am now, it is true, and I guess I should find my way back to that. The problem is that I don't like being idle. I want to participate. I love it when the thread explodes around me and all..

Which is why I should always be a vig or a ninja

Go on dreaming

But idleness is a part of the game - albeit a nasty part. Then again, you being quiet could also be a good learning process for others in how to make stuff 'splode.

haha, true enough. With DiBs not playing, JA gone for the time being, and me playing a healer.. Not to mention you and Bent modding and Lisheo being married at the tender age of 14.. yeah, perhaps

I know there's a lot of arrogance in this, but I do feel quite often that if I chose to remain quiet, absolutely nothing happens.. Unless DiBs is bored that is

well, we have some relatively new players who do know how to use their senses and mouths, but they need to build the confidence to stand up and shout from their soapbox just like the patronizing old guys we are, instead of respectfully shutting up when we speak

I certainly wouldn't want to teach them that.

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I have created the weakest case in the history of man. Bow before me for I am a god of nonsense.

Poor emuh, he's only guilty of fulfilling a stereotype which is rarely if ever true. I could more easily have made a case on Gamelon, but one suspect is not enough to get anything out of the day. Hopefully with two options people might talk a bit.

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I know I have already got a prov in, but just in case my target gets lynched whilst I am out (unlikely I know) so

kill Emurlahn

but if he is lynched

kill Gamelon

don't ask for reason, I have none. But emu was a good target last alted game, and he is playing it cool. As for Gamelon, well that alt was my partner last game, so clearly a power role this time! My logic is flawless I tell you...flawless...except when it's wrong...

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Ampelas seems to be talking sense. Ampelas has a cool avatar. Heal ampelas .. Or Karatallid? for some reason i'm having trouble keeping their posts apart in my mind.. hm


... *sigh* .. I expect to find a better target once things approach the end of the day but for now that's it..

I'll ask him to clarify

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Tx for the vote count Bent!

- Tapper

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And Morgy right now decides to heal both finders. Damn, he's lucky. Or good.

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There are 2 unread messages in the inbox, I havent looked at them, work, etc. I updated the vote count and thats it. I'll be around a little more today, but on and off for the most part.

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When I read Silanah's posts, I think - it sounds like me. I'm not saying someone is doing a deliberate Shin impersonation, but when I read the posts I keep thinking "that reads like something I would write". I don't remember thinking that about anyone before.

As for my strategy, in keeping with the idea of limiting meta gaming, I'm going to avoid posting while I'm at work and just post in my evenings and mornings. That will make it less obvious who I am (since my time zone is my number 1 giveaway). I don't think Bwgan or Morgy45 would hesitate to kill me if they have killing powers.

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I try to be active and get a train for it. Other assholes lurk, post <5 times in over 24 fucking hours, and don't have to deal with SHIT.
Fuck those people. If I can make four fucking posts in 30 minutes, having only ONE goddamn post is fucking pathetic.
KESSOBAHN YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.

I left the conversation between you and Morgy in there.

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Im going to go ahead and pick 3 random players on the lynch train, just in case Emur gets lynched...there are currently 3 votes on him, so I will make the 3 numbers from 4 to 10 so as to be fair....

5,7,9

those 3 get a vig if they lynch Emur....Unless Tapper changes it or has a better way of being random, in which case I bow to his wisdom and stick my tongue out at him when he isn't looking

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Silgoth heals Gamelon'

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All right, this is my decision for now.

Heal Gamelon.

The way I figure, the killers want to kill the other killers. So, they will then probably go for the suspicous players, which at them moment means Gamelon (assuming Emurlahn is lynched) . Now, Gamelon might very well be a killer, but I don't know if i'd want him killed at the hands of an other as I dunno what such an event will cause.

So, yeah,

Noted

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Vig Emur

If Emur is lynched,
Vig Sil

Emur is mainly because of this comment:

Seems rather interesting. Although the main thing to watch out for is if one killer manages to gather a boatload of powers--I'm not sure, however, if Tapper would let someone use multiple powers each night. That could get Heroes 2.0 ridiculous very very quickly.

edit: xpost, @silanah...I need to hit refresh more often.

edit #2: I'm bad at reading the rules, which say that each person has 1 NA.

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Nowhere in the rules does it say everyone has 1 NA. If fact, if they did, what would be the point of specifying to each person individually how many NAs they had? Misinformation!

And I just don't like Sil's symp talk very much. Seems like an intelligent person, so I don't buy his "I didn't realize..." argument.

Maybe I'm being too hard on people for not thinking about the rules as much as I have, but oh well.

NA's updated on the first page to reflect both provisionals...