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Mafia 47 - City of Saints and Madmen Festival of the Squid, and other horros

#701 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 06:46 PM

Sil, if you're around by the lynch, I think you should definitely remove your vote before it happens and get someone else to take your place in the voting queue (if Mockra is going to be lynched, otherwise just keep it off).

If you aren't infected and think Mockra is scum, who do you think may be the DG or infected*?


edit: *Assuming the DG compelled.

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 06:48 PM

For the record I still think the whole infected revealing thing could hurt team inno since it will give the DG lots of information, but since I doubt any of the infected will come forward it's a moot point.

TBH I could actually go for Mockra or Rashan, since Mockra's reaction was pretty telling, but Rashan is one of those players that we will have to lynch at some point, else they will become a sticking-point in the game. Anyway, I'm going out for some drinks, see you guys later.

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 06:49 PM

The only advantage I see today in using compulsion is in an attempt to speed up lynching to get to night quicker, if that was the case then Rashan fits the bill.

Him going for a split vote doesn't seem right this early on. Maybe on Day three he might try it, more likely day four, what do you think?

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 06:51 PM

View PostEloth, on Jun 24 2009, 11:48 AM, said:

For the record I still think the whole infected revealing thing could hurt team inno since it will give the DG lots of information, but since I doubt any of the infected will come forward it's a moot point.

TBH I could actually go for Mockra or Rashan, since Mockra's reaction was pretty telling, but Rashan is one of those players that we will have to lynch at some point, else they will become a sticking-point in the game. Anyway, I'm going out for some drinks, see you guys later.


What information will it give the DG? It may give the scum information about the existence of a healer, which is one valid reason to not reveal, but it will not give any information to the DG. On Day 1 he knows 19 other people can be infected and a healer isn't going to stop that.

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 06:53 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Jun 24 2009, 11:49 AM, said:

The only advantage I see today in using compulsion is in an attempt to speed up lynching to get to night quicker, if that was the case then Rashan fits the bill.

Him going for a split vote doesn't seem right this early on. Maybe on Day three he might try it, more likely day four, what do you think?


Really, the DG has no need to ever use compulsion unless he's worried about his own lynch. Compulsion is his winning condition and will auto-win for him if he gets to 50%.

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 06:59 PM

It a good point, if he doesn't use it then it be hard to spot the infected until it too late.

It in the the DG favour to allow lynches to go through as he doesn't have to recruit as much, didn't think of it in that way.

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 07:01 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Jun 24 2009, 12:40 PM, said:

@ Rashan

You come across ambiguously, it likes some of the stuff you say comes off as scummy, but it so scummy that you could do a full circle, like the vote for night, in my experience first time players ask in which circumstances do vote for night work in town's favour not out of the bat vote for it. Now a first time player might think it might be wise not to lynch night one as it saves one person who most likely will be inno.

But I don't think you're that new to the game, I believe you may have one or two games under your belt, if that the case then if you're scum you would want to increase your chances, night does that for you. But a person newly into scum generally don't have the confidence to wade into the limelight.

If you're just a townie who had a stumble then fair enough but comments like how you want to have fun at everyone expense, the biggest group right now is town, that statement says you're going to be playing a in a manner that will be possible detrimental to town make you a viable target, as a person who plays very badly as townie can be more dangerous than scum.

Also there was a post that could be taken as a hint you are infected or was it just a joke post, I mean these posts don't help other players how they should react to you. Yeah they can't guess if you're inno or scum, but due to that you're an unknown and unknowns from my experience can mean potential trouble.



Points well taken. Thanks.

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 07:02 PM

Hey no problem.

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 07:04 PM

View PostGalain, on Jun 24 2009, 08:46 PM, said:

Sil, if you're around by the lynch, I think you should definitely remove your vote before it happens and get someone else to take your place in the voting queue (if Mockra is going to be lynched, otherwise just keep it off).

If you aren't infected and think Mockra is scum, who do you think may be the DG or infected*?


edit: *Assuming the DG compelled.

Remove Vote
Well then I might as well remove the vote now, as for possible infected/the DG, I honestly have no suspects, because I really have not had the time I wanted today to look through the thread. As it stands, I would imagine the infected are trying not to be noticed and I may need to check, but I think HP's posting has slowed quite a bit since the end of day 1.
I also want to look over Eloth, Karatallid and Galayn lord. Eloth and Karatallid because I am always wary around alts that are new to me and GL is just instinct, so it could be nothing.


View PostHood's Path, on Jun 24 2009, 08:49 PM, said:

The only advantage I see today in using compulsion is in an attempt to speed up lynching to get to night quicker, if that was the case then Rashan fits the bill.

Him going for a split vote doesn't seem right this early on. Maybe on Day three he might try it, more likely day four, what do you think?

Compelling to speed up the day, that seems silly as the infected only have to have the vote in by the time the lynch happens and I can't imagine they would panic and pile in as early as possible or that he would assume they would .

Edit: Crosspost :):p:) Should have seen it coming though!

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 07:08 PM

View PostSilanah, on Jun 24 2009, 12:04 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on Jun 24 2009, 08:46 PM, said:

Sil, if you're around by the lynch, I think you should definitely remove your vote before it happens and get someone else to take your place in the voting queue (if Mockra is going to be lynched, otherwise just keep it off).

If you aren't infected and think Mockra is scum, who do you think may be the DG or infected*?


edit: *Assuming the DG compelled.

Remove Vote
Well then I might as well remove the vote now, as for possible infected/the DG, I honestly have no suspects, because I really have not had the time I wanted today to look through the thread. As it stands, I would imagine the infected are trying not to be noticed and I may need to check, but I think HP's posting has slowed quite a bit since the end of day 1.
I also want to look over Eloth, Karatallid and Galayn lord. Eloth and Karatallid because I am always wary around alts that are new to me and GL is just instinct, so it could be nothing.


Fascinating. I had literally the exact same thoughts about those three. Are you reading my mind across the interwebs?

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 07:08 PM

It is Day 2. 12 hours and 47 minutes remaining

19 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korlat, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Silanah, Thyrllan

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night

1 vote for Karatallid: ( Rashan )
3 votes for Mockra: ( Emurlahn, Karatallid, Liosan )
6 votes for Rashan: ( Kaschan, Omtose, Barghast, Mockra, Thyrllan, Galain )

Players not voted: Ampelas, D'riss, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Korlat, Meanas, Silanah


Buggers anyway...

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Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 24 June 2009 - 07:13 PM

View PostSilanah, on Jun 24 2009, 11:04 AM, said:

but I think HP's posting has slowed quite a bit since the end of day 1.


Be thankful for it :p

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 07:19 PM

Eloth from the general pattern of his posts, seem to be is that he comes in the middle of the conversation, agrees with one side, and makes some casual remarks about players like how they seem odd or so forth. I'll give it a much thorough check to be sure I'm right in my assessment of him.

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 07:20 PM

Catching up and I saw this:

View PostSilanah, on Jun 24 2009, 02:04 PM, said:

I also want to look over Eloth, Karatallid and Galayn lord. Eloth and Karatallid because I am always wary around alts that are new to me and GL is just instinct, so it could be nothing.


Eloth is Infected, Kara is .... meh I dunno, and I am innocent. That means you lynch me first, just FYI.

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 07:25 PM

GL why do you think out of that list you'll be lynched first?

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 07:25 PM

Or you just taking the piss?

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 07:27 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Jun 24 2009, 02:25 PM, said:

Or you just taking the piss?



... its a joke. We always choose like 4-5 players with 1 scum in them, and end up lynching 3-4 of them before we get the scum.

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 07:31 PM

So GL what do you think?

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 07:32 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Jun 24 2009, 02:19 PM, said:

Eloth from the general pattern of his posts, seem to be is that he comes in the middle of the conversation, agrees with one side, and makes some casual remarks about players like how they seem odd or so forth. I'll give it a much thorough check to be sure I'm right in my assessment of him.


Isn't Eloth the one who keeps waving an obi-wan-ish hand in front of our face and says 'ignore the cult, find the killers'?

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 07:37 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Jun 24 2009, 02:31 PM, said:

So GL what do you think?


As I said in 602, why was Silanah misdirecting off Rashan? Why did Mockra freak out after a vote that could certainly be just a testing vote and go against what he said previously to vote?

And then Eloth, as I just noted, keeps saying 'leave the cult alone, find the scum'... now, I'm worried about the scum too, but I think the cult is more dangerous, afaik the cult can infect the scum and become ubercult with mushroom bombs.

I assume people die to mushroom bombs. I need to read this book, anyway... order of suspicion right now:
Mockra
Eloth
Silanah/Rashan.

Rashan's night vote was wierd... but he MIGHT have been confused thinking the DG would have forced their one target to vote how they wanted, and was hoping to get an infected gone. Silly, but possible. Stranger things have happened. As I noted, I don't like Silanah's misdirection off Rashan. But now he is apparently not suspicious of Mockra but suspicious of me and if I keep harping on it I am obviously a killer and am freaking out, so my rambling ends now.

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