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Mafia 47 - City of Saints and Madmen Festival of the Squid, and other horros

#1141 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 03:51 PM

This entire farcical bullshit parade that I am aligned with Mockra is really starting to piss me off.

I don't vote for Mockra, I'm trying to save his ass. I vote for Mockra, I'm trying to sacrifice him to save myself.
Bulllllllllshit!

Vote Mockra

#1142 User is offline   Thyrllan 

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 03:52 PM

View PostGalain, on Jun 26 2009, 05:51 PM, said:

This entire farcical bullshit parade that I am aligned with Mockra is really starting to piss me off.

I don't vote for Mockra, I'm trying to save his ass. I vote for Mockra, I'm trying to sacrifice him to save myself.
Bulllllllllshit!

Vote Mockra



youre sacrificing him to save yourself !

#1143 User is offline   Ampelas 

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 03:53 PM

HP, your post and reasoning baffle me.

So, according to you:

1) You are convinced that Kaschan and Mockra are related somehow (I don't really see it, or at least not enough to make it an axiom)
2) Gam's reveal proves they are not inno paired, thus scum
3) Galain tried to derail Mockra's lynch (I don't see it either, but he did avoid voting him until now)

ergo, Galain is killer and vote Galain?

Are you just jumping on whatever blood you see?

I think I'd

vote Mockra

And if Mockra is scum I'll look at Galain more strongly.

edit: crosspostage with Galain's vote.

This post has been edited by Ampelas: 26 June 2009 - 03:54 PM


#1144 User is offline   Thyrllan 

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 03:56 PM

HP's bit there is tenuous and a bit hard to follow. I can see the idea, but it doesnt seem all tha tlogical to me.

however, galain's reaction to these accusations has me decided. he seems angry and frustrated while trying to get the accusations off him no matter what, but he doesnt even have a handful of votes. if he was inno id expect a calmer defence and he should be usin it to affirm or disavow his connections to others, but isntead hes being entirely self-centered. so to me he looks even more like scum/DG now.

#1145 User is offline   Ampelas 

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 03:57 PM

Also, I'm not saying that if Mockra is inno, it clears Galain. Gam's case does have some merit.

It's just that too many posts seem to assume Mockra is scum of some sort, and build on that, I think it's a legitimate (and important) lynch at this point.

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 03:57 PM

gone for foodz back in about an hour maybe

#1147 User is offline   Ampelas 

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 03:58 PM

View PostThyrllan, on Jun 26 2009, 05:56 PM, said:

HP's bit there is tenuous and a bit hard to follow. I can see the idea, but it doesnt seem all tha tlogical to me.

however, galain's reaction to these accusations has me decided. he seems angry and frustrated while trying to get the accusations off him no matter what, but he doesnt even have a handful of votes. if he was inno id expect a calmer defence and he should be usin it to affirm or disavow his connections to others, but isntead hes being entirely self-centered. so to me he looks even more like scum/DG now.



Ironically, with his vote on Mockra he's doing, in essence, the same thing Mockra did.

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 03:58 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on Jun 26 2009, 06:51 AM, said:

i am not voting you, i still like my case on mockra and want to see what galain has to say. Askign questions isnt in itself that bad a thing, and you have upped your game so to speak, but the question is did you up your game simply to avoid lynching or to help us win the game?


I'll be honest both, another lynched inno is bad for town but the few votes on me made me realise I wasn't giving all my support, which is just as bad. So I upped my game in hoping that town benefits.

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 04:03 PM

View PostThyrllan, on Jun 26 2009, 08:56 AM, said:

HP's bit there is tenuous and a bit hard to follow. I can see the idea, but it doesnt seem all tha tlogical to me.

however, galain's reaction to these accusations has me decided. he seems angry and frustrated while trying to get the accusations off him no matter what, but he doesnt even have a handful of votes. if he was inno id expect a calmer defence and he should be usin it to affirm or disavow his connections to others, but isntead hes being entirely self-centered. so to me he looks even more like scum/DG now.


Of course my reactions are angry. You don't think a townie is supposed to get flustered over seeing two town lynches and then suddenly realize that Rashan's "prophecy" may be self-fulfilling?

I've laid out a LOT of information in this game. Of course, when we're lynching, we choose to see selective pieces of the whole picture. That's why we lynched two townies already. We confused bad/noob play with scumminess because we all know that's possible.

I will now calmly tell you to piss off.

#1150 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 04:03 PM

View PostAmpelas, on Jun 26 2009, 08:58 AM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on Jun 26 2009, 05:56 PM, said:

HP's bit there is tenuous and a bit hard to follow. I can see the idea, but it doesnt seem all tha tlogical to me.

however, galain's reaction to these accusations has me decided. he seems angry and frustrated while trying to get the accusations off him no matter what, but he doesnt even have a handful of votes. if he was inno id expect a calmer defence and he should be usin it to affirm or disavow his connections to others, but isntead hes being entirely self-centered. so to me he looks even more like scum/DG now.



Ironically, with his vote on Mockra he's doing, in essence, the same thing Mockra did.


And Rashan. You know that, right?

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 04:05 PM

The argument for a connection between Mockra and Galain has gone both ways. I'm not sure if the CF on one will tell us anything about the other. I wish there was an obvious 'vote for this one first because it provides more info'.

And I think that what HP just posted is unintentially hilarious. He's saying he upped his game, and everyone else is saying he's not making sense. :D
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Posted 26 June 2009 - 04:12 PM

Ok an amendment, I'm trying my best to up my game, I'm sorry if there a bit of confusion about what I'm talking about.

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 04:14 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Jun 25 2009, 08:40 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 18 hours and 1 minute remaining

15 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Korlat, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Silanah, Thyrllan

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night

2 votes for Hood's Path: ( Galayn Lord, Galain )
1 vote for Kaschan: ( Barghast )
1 vote for Liosan: ( Hood's Path )
1 vote for Mockra: ( Emurlahn )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Eloth, Gamelon, Kaschan, Korlat, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Silanah, Thyrllan


Updating that to now, we have about 5 and a half hours.

1 vote for Hood's Path: ( Galayn Lord )
4 votes for Mockra: ( Emurlahn, Silanah, Galain, Ampelas )
4 votes for Galain: ( Gamelon, Thyrllan, Barghast, Hood's Path )

#1154 User is offline   Ampelas 

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 04:15 PM

And Kaschan is still MIA by the way

#1155 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 04:17 PM

I'm aware of that.

Also, Gamelon's disinfection does not clear some of his 'targets' of being scum. Kind of funny that he targets me for "only looking for the DG and infected" and then completely overlooks the fact that he's basically giving Eloth and HP a free pass for a while.

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 04:20 PM

Ok, we have an even split between Galain and Mockra, and I actually need to leave in about 10 minutes or so. If Galain's 5 hours is accurate, the chances I'll make it back for deadline to make a vote change is doubtful. The question is, should I leave my vote where it is, or should I remove vote? The lynch isn't clear at the moment, and I won't be able to show I'm not infected by removing pre-lynch if the vote swings to Mockra.

edit: The 3rd option is to change to mockra, but right now the two are pretty much a fifty-fifty in my mind.

This post has been edited by Barghast: 26 June 2009 - 04:26 PM

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#1157 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 04:25 PM

View PostBarghast, on Jun 26 2009, 09:20 AM, said:

Ok, we have an even split between Galain and Mockra, and I actually need to leave in about 10 minutes or so. If Galain's 5 hours is accurate, the chances I'll make it back for deadline to make a vote change is doubtful. The question is, should I leave my vote where it is, or should I remove vote? The lynch isn't clear at the moment, and I won't be able to show I'm not infected by removing pre-lynch if the vote swings to Mockra.


There's been a lot of discussion about Mockra in the past. I don't see why Gamelon's reveal even has some kind of power over votes. He's just a VPI townie with a theory.

People have linked me to Mockra, Kaschan to Mockra, Mockra to just general weird posting and scum (this is scum like normal scum) behavior. Lynch Mockra to test a lot of theories. If he's scum, I'll fight for my life tomorrow.

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 04:27 PM

My internet is acting up. The quick edit option wouldn't let me fix my last post, it just got stuck in the "loading" cycle and wouldn't refresh the thread. I wanted to add that the 3rd option obviously is to change to mockra, but right now the two are pretty much a fifty-fifty in my mind.
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Posted 26 June 2009 - 04:28 PM

Ok....apparently the edit DID go through. $%#@ wireless.
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#1160 User is offline   Ampelas 

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 04:29 PM

Leave your vote there. Who cares about that compulsion trap for now, it's not important enough to make us lose a lynch opportunity.

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