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#1081 User is offline   Ruse 

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 01:47 PM

View PostShadow, on Jun 2 2009, 09:40 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on Jun 2 2009, 09:39 AM, said:

The bottom line is i think you are scum.
I think its very likely kessoh is telling the truth.
But to be safe i will guard him tonight...kapeesh?


Fine, but why the reveal?




because if i die tonight without telling you guys, You would not know who i was going to guard or why there was one less kill.

And because people were listening to you without question...

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 01:50 PM

View PostRuse, on Jun 2 2009, 09:47 AM, said:

View PostShadow, on Jun 2 2009, 09:40 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on Jun 2 2009, 09:39 AM, said:

The bottom line is i think you are scum.
I think its very likely kessoh is telling the truth.
But to be safe i will guard him tonight...kapeesh?


Fine, but why the reveal?




because if i die tonight without telling you guys, You would not know who i was going to guard or why there was one less kill.

And because people were listening to you without question...


I doubt they would've gone for you, but w/e.

So, who did you guard each night?

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 01:51 PM

It is Day 5. 11 hours and 45 minutes remaining

8 Players still alive: Ampelas, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Liosan, Mockra, Ruse, Shadow, Tellan

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night

1 vote for Mockra: ( Kessobahn )
1 vote for Shadow: ( Ruse )
2 votes for Kessobahn: ( Ampelas, Shadow )

Players not voted: Hood's Path, Liosan, Mockra, Tellan
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 01:51 PM

And for the record i have yet to guard anyone...I was waiting for at least two scum kills before starting.
Since i obviously dont want to block any other inno roles while mine was effectively useless.

I have to leave in like 30 minutes and wont be back for deadline. So i have just put in my provisional on kessoh.
If you guys dont want to lynch shadow then i suppose its up to you, but i am definitely going to guard kessoh tonight.

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 01:54 PM

View PostShadow, on Jun 2 2009, 09:50 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on Jun 2 2009, 09:47 AM, said:

View PostShadow, on Jun 2 2009, 09:40 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on Jun 2 2009, 09:39 AM, said:

The bottom line is i think you are scum.
I think its very likely kessoh is telling the truth.
But to be safe i will guard him tonight...kapeesh?


Fine, but why the reveal?




because if i die tonight without telling you guys, You would not know who i was going to guard or why there was one less kill.

And because people were listening to you without question...


I doubt they would've gone for you, but w/e.

So, who did you guard each night?



well with it coming down to the wire i couldnt take the chance.

Guarded no one yet, no point if history serves...wait for the killer numbers to come down so as to be effective.
been a looong time since i was a guard aswell.

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 01:54 PM

View PostRuse, on Jun 2 2009, 09:51 AM, said:

And for the record i have yet to guard anyone...I was waiting for at least two scum kills before starting.
Since i obviously dont want to block any other inno roles while mine was effectively useless.

I have to leave in like 30 minutes and wont be back for deadline. So i have just put in my provisional on kessoh.
If you guys dont want to lynch shadow then i suppose its up to you, but i am definitely going to guard kessoh tonight.



You're a guard! What did you have to lose! It's more important to try and block the killers, which has definite results, then a finder who still has to prove their case and often don't manage to do so. Grr, some people...

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 01:58 PM

Doubt there is a healer around with D'riss biting the dust and all

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 02:02 PM

View PostShadow, on Jun 2 2009, 09:54 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on Jun 2 2009, 09:51 AM, said:

And for the record i have yet to guard anyone...I was waiting for at least two scum kills before starting.
Since i obviously dont want to block any other inno roles while mine was effectively useless.

I have to leave in like 30 minutes and wont be back for deadline. So i have just put in my provisional on kessoh.
If you guys dont want to lynch shadow then i suppose its up to you, but i am definitely going to guard kessoh tonight.



You're a guard! What did you have to lose! It's more important to try and block the killers, which has definite results, then a finder who still has to prove their case and often don't manage to do so. Grr, some people...




yea and then i would have blocked D'riss on the very night he tried to do a find on fener...im sure my role would be VERY helpfull then.
I felt that unless we hit scum there was a bigger chance that A.) my guard probably wont even work on the killers yet, probably paired anyways.
and B.) i could end jup guarding a finder...




edit - bloody smileys

This post has been edited by Ruse: 02 June 2009 - 02:03 PM


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Posted 02 June 2009 - 02:03 PM

more strange reveals, this game is crazy! I guess you can't all be lying, unless there's one giant scum conspiracy going on. I need to ponder this.

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 02:08 PM

View PostRuse, on Jun 2 2009, 10:02 AM, said:

View PostShadow, on Jun 2 2009, 09:54 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on Jun 2 2009, 09:51 AM, said:

And for the record i have yet to guard anyone...I was waiting for at least two scum kills before starting.
Since i obviously dont want to block any other inno roles while mine was effectively useless.

I have to leave in like 30 minutes and wont be back for deadline. So i have just put in my provisional on kessoh.
If you guys dont want to lynch shadow then i suppose its up to you, but i am definitely going to guard kessoh tonight.



You're a guard! What did you have to lose! It's more important to try and block the killers, which has definite results, then a finder who still has to prove their case and often don't manage to do so. Grr, some people...




yea and then i would have blocked D'riss on the very night he tried to do a find on fener...im sure my role would be VERY helpfull then.
I felt that unless we hit scum there was a bigger chance that A.) my guard probably wont even work on the killers yet, probably paired anyways.
and B.) i could end jup guarding a finder...


edit - bloody smileys


Guarding IS finding. A finder picks someone, and if he's right then he knows that person is scum and has to convince everyone. A Guard picks someone, and if he's right then he's likely right because no NK happens, so he's just done a find but he has obvious evidence to support it AND he prevented a NK. Well worth it.

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 02:09 PM

View PostRuse, on Jun 2 2009, 09:58 AM, said:

Doubt there is a healer around with D'riss biting the dust and all


Or he did a find on the ghost of Fener and it got turned on him and killed him :)

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 02:09 PM

View PostRuse, on Jun 2 2009, 06:16 AM, said:

Alright.....i think i have to reveal.

8 players left... there is two killers left (2 kills last night would indicate this) and there is possibly a symp still around....
so if we miss today, we have two kills tonight and its game over.

I started this game as a monk with a BP.
The BP came from an "untested" amulet that prevents any harmfull magic effecting me.

But on night two i got zapped by someone and it turned me into a guard...shattering the amulet

I can clearly see we have two "sides" here...
So i propose we lynch shadow now and i will guard kessoh tonight covering all our bases.
hopefully ther is a healer out there but i really think i have to reveal as worst case scenario its all over tonight.
How does that sound?
These killers must be working independently since we have got two scum down i predict the two killers must be alone and my guard must work if i hit one.

View PostRuse, on Jun 2 2009, 06:39 AM, said:

The bottom line is i think you are scum.
I think its very likely kessoh is telling the truth.
But to be safe i will guard him tonight...kapeesh?

I read both of these statements like you already know Shadow is going to CF inno. It is highly unlikely that they are both scum, as Shadow's actions have all but ensured that one of them will get lynched today, so if Shadow CFs scum, why would you guard Kesso and not, say, Amp?

Also, you said your amulet shattered and turned you into a guard night 2? And that it had something to do with finders? But the real finders didn't do a find on you at all, and the supposed paranoid finder says he didn't do a find on you until night 4, I believe. So even with you being vague, it's clear you're talking a bunch of bullshit.

And @Shadow, if that was what you were trying to accomplish with your ridiculousness at the beginning of the day, what are your opinions about Amp joining you in the ridiculousness?

And @Path Shaper, WTF no modkill? This is silly. I guess I can only assume that the silencer is real and still around, which certainly doesn't make Shadow innocent, but I gotta think about it some more.

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 02:09 PM

This wouldnt be a TMDI 6 if there wasnt strange reveals i suppose

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 02:11 PM

View PostRuse, on Jun 2 2009, 05:51 AM, said:

And for the record i have yet to guard anyone...I was waiting for at least two scum kills before starting.
Since i obviously dont want to block any other inno roles while mine was effectively useless.

I have to leave in like 30 minutes and wont be back for deadline. So i have just put in my provisional on kessoh.
If you guys dont want to lynch shadow then i suppose its up to you, but i am definitely going to guard kessoh tonight.

Oh, wow, and this = super scummy, or just plain stupid. You're saying you won't be able to find internet access for 15 1/2 hours? Not even to, I don't know, allow us to win in the case something else happens. Oh, no, it's your way or the highway, I guess.

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 02:17 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Jun 2 2009, 02:09 PM, said:

And @Path Shaper, WTF no modkill? This is silly. I guess I can only assume that the silencer is real and still around, which certainly doesn't make Shadow innocent, but I gotta think about it some more.


There is an excessive amount of whining going on in this game. Tellan has exceeded the modkill limit but decisions are left to the creator of the game and any modkills should take place at fall of night if the decision is taken by a comod. If you wish to help run the game and make decisions about its runnign you should not play, or request a modkill so you can voice an opinion in heaven.
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 02:17 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Jun 2 2009, 10:09 AM, said:

Also, you said your amulet shattered and turned you into a guard night 2? And that it had something to do with finders? But the real finders didn't do a find on you at all, and the supposed paranoid finder says he didn't do a find on you until night 4, I believe. So even with you being vague, it's clear you're talking a bunch of bullshit.

And @Shadow, if that was what you were trying to accomplish with your ridiculousness at the beginning of the day, what are your opinions about Amp joining you in the ridiculousness?

And @Path Shaper, WTF no modkill? This is silly. I guess I can only assume that the silencer is real and still around, which certainly doesn't make Shadow innocent, but I gotta think about it some more.


Yeah, this story doesn't make much sense. You need to lay it all out for us there Ruse, if you can.

amp -> Well at first I was just hoping that I was being super-persuasive and Amp was the first to be enlightened, but that didn't catch on so well with the rest of the crowd. I guess I'm just happy that someone agrees with me, and I've certainly been in scenarios where I've agreed with someone vehemently and then been the only to do so, so I guess I don't really think it's super suspicious without any other probable cause.

modkill -> It's only just barely expired right? Alt/Venge might not be around yet and Shin/others might be reluctant to make such a big decision. If there's none in the next hour though, I'm going with silenced.


View PostRuse, on Jun 2 2009, 10:09 AM, said:

This wouldnt be a TMDI 6 if there wasnt strange reveals i suppose


Makes me wish I could go back and make up a crazy reveal for myself... something about a nun and a ninja, a nunja!

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 02:19 PM

@Ruse-
I mean, you do realize you can do shit like:
"If Shadow is lynched and CFs inno, guard Kesso.
If Shadow is lynched and CFs scum, guard Ampelas.
If Kesso is lynched and CFs inno, guard Shadow.
etc..."
right?

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 02:19 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Jun 2 2009, 10:09 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on Jun 2 2009, 06:16 AM, said:

Alright.....i think i have to reveal.

8 players left... there is two killers left (2 kills last night would indicate this) and there is possibly a symp still around....
so if we miss today, we have two kills tonight and its game over.

I started this game as a monk with a BP.
The BP came from an "untested" amulet that prevents any harmfull magic effecting me.

But on night two i got zapped by someone and it turned me into a guard...shattering the amulet

I can clearly see we have two "sides" here...
So i propose we lynch shadow now and i will guard kessoh tonight covering all our bases.
hopefully ther is a healer out there but i really think i have to reveal as worst case scenario its all over tonight.
How does that sound?
These killers must be working independently since we have got two scum down i predict the two killers must be alone and my guard must work if i hit one.

View PostRuse, on Jun 2 2009, 06:39 AM, said:

The bottom line is i think you are scum.
I think its very likely kessoh is telling the truth.
But to be safe i will guard him tonight...kapeesh?

I read both of these statements like you already know Shadow is going to CF inno. It is highly unlikely that they are both scum, as Shadow's actions have all but ensured that one of them will get lynched today, so if Shadow CFs scum, why would you guard Kesso and not, say, Amp?

Also, you said your amulet shattered and turned you into a guard night 2? And that it had something to do with finders? But the real finders didn't do a find on you at all, and the supposed paranoid finder says he didn't do a find on you until night 4, I believe. So even with you being vague, it's clear you're talking a bunch of bullshit.

And @Shadow, if that was what you were trying to accomplish with your ridiculousness at the beginning of the day, what are your opinions about Amp joining you in the ridiculousness?

And @Path Shaper, WTF no modkill? This is silly. I guess I can only assume that the silencer is real and still around, which certainly doesn't make Shadow innocent, but I gotta think about it some more.


My amulet shateerd because someone tried to do something to me....my best guess is kill me.
My amulet was meant to be protection against "harmfull" things ...so in effect it was a BP.
But it was untested. and broke.
It turned me into a Guard.

It also could effect thet way certain finders see me....i cant go into fucking detail i can only tell you what my ROLE is...dont you understand?
I cant reveal without telling you what happened.

How the fuck can i possibly make this shit up?

I think shadow is scum and will CF as such...but i will also be guarding kessoh tongiht. INCASE shadow comes up inno.
I am not going to be around...im leaving in like 10 minutes.

man this is so frustrating

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 02:22 PM

shit...lift is leaving

gotto go...
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 02:22 PM

Ooooooh, he's trying to tell us that Kesso isn't paranoid at all, that Kess really did find his first 3 as scum but Ruse's amulet made Kess find him scum when he's inno (and HP was a provisional supposedly).

Except that D'riss CF'd inno so this is just getting silly, unless you go on to make some crap up about how D'riss was a symp but Kesso can actually find symps as scum and more bullcrap

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