Done with the re-read! Phew! Now to post my thoughts:
Cutting straight to the chase, I think Kessobahn's reveal is bullshit. Here's why:
Kessobahn, on May 31 2009, 09:23 PM, said:
Korvalain, on May 31 2009, 03:16 PM, said:
True, but scum try to disassociate with each other so that taking one down, doesn't take them all down.
True, but that only works to a point, and roled innos do the same. For a pair to be effective yet remain inconspicuous there has to be some interaction. That's one reason why I don't buy the idea that Meanas and Fener were paired, because they never spoke to each other. It makes it too obvious. Its more likely that Meanas did this specifically to one person (Fener) who he picked at or near the beginning who would be singled out as an easy lynch after he died. If so, he's getting exactly the reaction he wanted.
Wow, a crosspost. In this game? Maybe conditions are improving.../wild hope
This post is from before D'riss revealed he'd found Fener to be scum just like Meanas. I got the strong feeling from this that Kesso was trying to make people look in other directions. As we later found out, Meanas and Fener were very much on the same team.
Kessobahn, on Jun 1 2009, 09:01 PM, said:
Hood's Path, on Jun 1 2009, 02:56 PM, said:
@Kesso: Is that the order you found them in? Shadow night 1, D'riss night 2, etc.?
Yes, that is. That's also why I was trying to pressure Shadow a little bit on day 2. At the time however, after my read of him there was nothing I could find to build a case on, and so I left it. I didn't want to reveal at that time, as even insane finders are good targets for killers.
So you just left someone who at the time you would have been convinced was scum go, after putting a 'little' pressure on them. That seems a very dangerous tactic for an inno finder. Did you not think at any point that you might be offed the next night, and no one would know your find of Shadow as 'scum' would be lost?
Kessobahn, on Jun 1 2009, 12:03 PM, said:
Liosan, on Jun 1 2009, 02:59 PM, said:
@ Kesso
rofl
I know it's hard to believe, but it wasn't me. I haven't looked at the thread since i've last posted yesterday.
also, there's a huge difference--Insane finder can be just as useful, once you know he's insane.
Paranoid is... well, useless.
I've always just called it insane because its, frankly, shit insane to have a finder who only finds one result. And of course I wasn't told explicitly that I was a paranoid finder,
I didn't find that out until night 2.
You wouldn't have found out on night 2 either. The only way you can absolutely confirm that your finder power is screwy is if one of your finds dies and their CF is not the same as your find. As D'riss did not die on night 2, you could not have known this for sure then. I can't remember for sure, but I don't think you pushed any real case on D'riss (or Shadow) at the time either.
As for Shadow's reveal: Well, I wish I could back it up by saying I was silenced too, but I can't. Therefore I'm not sure what to make of that bit of information. But to me Kesso seems the dodgier one at the minute for the reasons outlined above.
As for Ruse's reveal: Again, I can't decide one way or the other about that, but my feeling is is that lynching Kesso is the way to go. My other thought is that the other killer is not one of Shadow or Kess, and at the moment I feel it's Ampelas, who's been pretty smooth throughout, only becoming animated more recently, which suggests to me that someone they're in cahoots with is in trouble (i.e. either Kess or Shadow).
So:
Vote Kessobahn