[Sir Thursday]

Looks like the Innos are going to be in a very strong position soon. Now lets see if PB can get Fener lynched without revealing Finder.


Sir Thursday

[Path-Shaper]

Gem/Ampelas is very very happy...

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yeah baby! That's what I am talking about, gotcha Meanas Mr. Strawmanning bent! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Now, should I go for Korv, kesso or maybe someone else? Hmm...

Gem

[Path-Shaper]

Sir Thursday, on May 31 2009, 12:16 AM, said:

Looks like the Innos are going to be in a very strong position soon. Now lets see if PB can get Fener lynched without revealing Finder.


Sir Thursday

That will be a good trick...I am also going to be curious to see how Masterblue handles having guarded someone and having them die. After all Gem knew that Meanas was going to die but he didn't... Could be some nice confusion going on there...

[Path-Shaper]

Also I love that Fener posted right after D'riss and now D'riss knows that he is scum..... :snigger:

[Path-Shaper]

D'riss

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I regret that I didn't fight harder to get Fener investigated Night 1. I was totally right about him from the start.

Plus let's face it, that alt is always fucking scum.

[Path-Shaper]

Kesso being a little forgetful...

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Because its the weekend, I think I'm gonna lurk a bit. I know, a little out of the created character, but I'm a busy boy. I'm rather pissed about Meanas, we have to assume there's a bi-nightly vig or something. I dunno, that's weird. Did he have some sort of nutty backfire power? Or more likely someone else had an ability that fucked him over. Who was he targeting?

I am pretty sure that he told you what his power was. He was targeting you...


Vengeance

O ya...

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 31 May 2009 - 01:58 AM

[Path-Shaper]

Ok I am going to step off for probably the night...I will check it out in the morning. See you all then...

Alt hope I didn't mess anything up.....



Vengeance

[Path-Shaper]

Shadow....Timezones what a crazy way to figure out who the killers are. I don't get it....When people have brought it up during games I usually ignore it.

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First Shin and now Gavin, not to mention Kurt, looks like the pacific and PST time-zones are getting targetted. If there's only one killer, than Obdi could be a vig and unrelated to the trend, and I obviously assume a similar exception for Bent. So, do the rules on no-metaspeak preclude talking about dead and live folks' timezones as well?

Yes.... Plus I must say that people always read way to much into timezones...


Vengeance

[Path-Shaper]

Shadow

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First Shin and now Gavin, not to mention Kurt, looks like the pacific and PST time-zones are getting targetted. If there's only one killer, than Obdi could be a vig and unrelated to the trend, and I obviously assume a similar exception for Bent. So, do the rules on no-metaspeak preclude talking about dead and live folks' timezones as well?

Yes.... Plus I must say that people always read way to much into timezones...


Vengeance

But that's just it! Some people read a lot into them, which in turn means we others have to as well because if the scum is someone who reads into timezones then we can perchance catch them like that. Plus someone very recently in the Tips thread put a suggestion as scum to kill everyone in your timezone so you can lurk more legitmately, and it's not inconceivable that someone like, say, Masterblue, who happens to be a kiwi, to be following said tips.

Could also be Silencer, but I would think he wouldn't be quite as obvious...

Well it isn't a strategy that I employ when ever I have been a killer. But I could see someone using it, And no you can't talk about it on the thread. If you want to write out your ideas and then try to figure out who is scum you must do so only by talking about what has been posted on the thread. Sorry mate but after the fiasco of people using Pms to clear themselves I am cracking down hard on out of game talk in the actual game. So feel free to use what ever means you want to come to your conclusions but make your cases using quotes from the game and what not...


Vengeance

[Path-Shaper]

Me and Shadow....Still hashing the timezones out...

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First Shin and now Gavin, not to mention Kurt, looks like the pacific and PST time-zones are getting targetted. If there's only one killer, than Obdi could be a vig and unrelated to the trend, and I obviously assume a similar exception for Bent. So, do the rules on no-metaspeak preclude talking about dead and live folks' timezones as well?

Yes.... Plus I must say that people always read way to much into timezones...


Vengeance

But that's just it! Some people read a lot into them, which in turn means we others have to as well because if the scum is someone who reads into timezones then we can perchance catch them like that. Plus someone very recently in the Tips thread put a suggestion as scum to kill everyone in your timezone so you can lurk more legitmately, and it's not inconceivable that someone like, say, Masterblue, who happens to be a kiwi, to be following said tips.

Could also be Silencer, but I would think he wouldn't be quite as obvious...

Well it isn't a strategy that I employ when ever I have been a killer. But I could see someone using it, And no you can't talk about it on the thread. If you want to write out your ideas and then try to figure out who is scum you must do so only by talking about what has been posted on the thread. Sorry mate but after the fiasco of people using Pms to clear themselves I am cracking down hard on out of game talk in the actual game. So feel free to use what ever means you want to come to your conclusions but make your cases using quotes from the game and what not...
Vengeance

Well yeah, it'd all be on-thread stuff, of course, but I could still argue it without necessarily going out-of-thread, ie "Fener is posting like he's in this timezone and killed all these alts which were posting in the same timezone: Coincidence?!" of course most would know that the named dead folk's actual timezones corroborate that, but I wouldn't have to specifically say that part...

I don't think that it will have much traction. I can think of several people who (don't have jobs) and like to post in other timezones to through off the very thing that you are talking about. I am not going to say that you can't do that but it is a fine line you would be walking.... I will see what Alt has to say when he gets on.


Vengeance




Hey Alt I tend to fall on obdi's side when it comes to things like this...I.e. Don't fucking do it... But it is your game... What are your thoughts...

[Path-Shaper]

Hi Gavin...


It will be interesting to see how HP plays now that he has a vig....

[Path-Shaper]

Hey people I'm back. Everything looks in order. That find is really going to screw with the scum, it couldnt have come at a worse time for them. At least Kesso is likely to take out the last finder tonight, PB will probably have to reveal. Unless he's guarded, but with both guards still alive that will be a screwy reveal. Team evil is actually struggling more than I expected them too, I think it may actually be because both healers died early. Funny that managing to take out roled innos is actually hindering the scum.

If Shadow wants to believe that alt x is guilty because he is in a certain timezone then he is welcome to do so, but to push a lynch he can only use whatever is in the thread. Same as if you alt guess a person and decide whether the way they are playing makes them inno or scum. Trying to motivate the lynch with info like that isnt really in the spirirt of the game, but if he uses a meta-assumption as motivation to pay more attention to (and build more detailed cases on) a certain person there is nothing wrong with that.

[Path-Shaper]

Hoosier:

Korv said:

Bent, you played fantastically well as killer. At worst, I thought you might be symp attempting to direct the game. To do so as killer, and while not necessarily directing but certainly influencing as the top poster, is simply amazing. Of the games I've watched you play Killer about as good as I've seen. Just an outstanding job, friend. Fuck. You had me fairly well fooled! You have provided me a new example at how to play killer, and that is always good fun.

However, I'm pretty sure I play killer better than I play Inno, anyways, so.... LOL.

[Path-Shaper]

PB

D'riss said:

For Gavin,

Sadly, I don't think I have enough in me to survive another day. I built a massive Fener case to try and get him lynched without revealing to obviously avoid the night kill, but I'm building the case so damn strongly it should be 100% evident that if the crowd does go with Fener, the killers are going to kill me that night because I'm VPI building a case and first-voting on a scum.

I wanted someone else to build the case but HP's gunning for me so hard that I think I had to build the case or risk getting railroaded and just revealing late to swap Fener's lynch for my death.

In either event, it seems pretty clear that I'm innocent and while the scum have no doubt entertained keeping me alive this long because I've been so lynchable, my clear innocent will no doubt be too much to let live.

I'm considering fake-revealing you as my partner if I have to reveal, but revealing that we were the vigs and they are used up to try and get the killers to think I'm just RI now (although VPI, which they won't want). I'm hoping the real vig(s) will realize that you CF'd inno and will keep quiet.

Should I live through another night, provisional find on Ruse.

I think HP and Korv are innocent so just trying to whittle down the suspect pool and Ruse has played it low-key like the other scum.

Provisional noted, I will pass the message along.

[Bent]

Well, that sucks. Team scum is supper in trouble with the finder. Not gonna comment on balance, because that never matters to me. Well done Gem, (just want to acknowledge that Gem is the only person to ever NK me, this is the 3rd time she has done so, good job.) Team inno have all played very good, keeping the game slow actually hurt us, because there was shit to drive a lynch on. I do love playing scum, but shit, you sheeple weren't being very good sheep. Oh well, maybe next time. Great game to everyone.

[Bent]

Hey, what do you know, M45 is a christian, cool. Last game he used that as an excuse for being so nice, good to know that he actually wasn't just using a religion as a defense for mafia, I was slightly offended at the thought of tht. Also, whoever Ruse was in that game....you are still going to hell for responding like you did o his christianity claim. Love you guys, later.

[Tapper]

Bent, on May 31 2009, 02:55 PM, said:

Hey, what do you know, M45 is a christian, cool. Last game he used that as an excuse for being so nice, good to know that he actually wasn't just using a religion as a defense for mafia, I was slightly offended at the thought of tht. Also, whoever Ruse was in that game....you are still going to hell for responding like you did o his christianity claim. Love you guys, later.

Later? LATER? You have a mafia set-up to comment on!

Just kidding, but I'm looking forward to your reaction :GA:

[drinksinbars]

kess should consider cjumping on fener now. then goign for driss tongith.

[Path-Shaper]

Gem is doing very well this game, she might just end up winning it for the innos by vigging Kesso if the killers dont take her out soon

Ampelas said:

My provisional is Bind Korv, if he is lynched, bind Kesso instead.

I know I need to look at players like Fener, Ruse and Shadow. All scum aren't going to be as obvious as Meanas/bent (sorry but it's true, buddy). Did I forget anyone? hmmmm, tricky situation. I don't feel I should make aggressive cases on anybody just yet - although i really need to not seem afraid to be aggressive either, or the scum will pin me as a power role. Meh, I love this game. tongue.gif

Gem

[Sir Thursday]

drinksinbars, on May 31 2009, 03:05 PM, said:

kess should consider cjumping on fener now. then goign for driss tongith.

For that to happen, Kesso would have to know that Fener is definitely going down, which isn't going to happen until either D'riss reveals finder or there are 3/4 votes on Fener. By that point it'll be too late to gain any currency from being early on the lynch train...

Seems like M45 is going to be all by himself (well, I guess he'd have DkT as a symp). I don't see him going the distance, unfortunately - he hasn't managed to keep his nose clean enough...


Sir Thursday