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Mafia 44 THE GAME! Bar fight!!!

#741 User is offline   Telas 

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:01 AM

Good lord.

I wish my RL allowed me to have access to this thread anywhere I go at anytime. Getting a handle on the last 2 pages was a bit of a wild run.

Logically, as Tellan said, it seems simple to lynch Fener tomorrow if he's being a lying sack of pig about Mockra. I agree with Barghast that its odd Fener pushes the case on Mockra day one, but doesn't do the actual find on him. But the easiest way to get this right is to lynch Mockra and find out the truth.


cross post: deleted the vote count on mockra as innaccurate due to cross post

This post has been edited by Telas: 27 April 2009 - 04:02 AM


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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:03 AM

ugh forget above post, already voted for Mockra... duh

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:05 AM

Okay so are we just going to vote Mockra then and act accordingly based on the results (ie. Fener lying or telling the truth?) I only ask becase I'm going to be off soon and then I have to be at work in the morning so I won't be on for at least 9 hours. It seems the concensus is that Fener could indeed be lying but Mockra is the best bet we have to go on numbers wise.

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:06 AM

Might as well make it 6

vote Mockra

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:07 AM

View PostOmtose, on Apr 27 2009, 12:05 AM, said:

Okay so are we just going to vote Mockra then and act accordingly based on the results (ie. Fener lying or telling the truth?) I only ask becase I'm going to be off soon and then I have to be at work in the morning so I won't be on for at least 9 hours. It seems the concensus is that Fener could indeed be lying but Mockra is the best bet we have to go on numbers wise.


That's a fair assessment of how the wind is blowing, yeah.

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:07 AM

So you didn't give any thoughts to the fact Fener may be the symp when you revealed?

Oh well, something doesn't quite make sense in this whole situation, however I'm going to go with Fener, his comments about lynch Mockra then lynch me are consistent with him being a finder and knowing he'll be guility. So we either save 2 finders and lynch scum now, or we lynch an inno and then have 2 probable scum.


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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:09 AM

View PostBarghast, on Apr 27 2009, 05:07 AM, said:

So you didn't give any thoughts to the fact Fener may be the symp when you revealed?

Oh well, something doesn't quite make sense in this whole situation, however I'm going to go with Fener, his comments about lynch Mockra then lynch me are consistent with him being a finder and knowing he'll be guility. So we either save 2 finders and lynch scum now, or we lynch an inno and then have 2 probable scum.


Vote Mockra


i considered it, but the symp throwing himself away when no 'clear master' was even in danger of being lynched is pretty bad play

we could argue that fener HAS played a bad symp, but i'm rolling the dice that my find is legitimate

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:10 AM

Not sure how many that is on Mockra, but I suggest we don't speed lynch him and use up all the time so we can be certain everyone has actions in.
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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:12 AM

All I have to say is that both finders if they are telling the truth have made a royal fuck up of this! However it's done now and my bitching won't change that. Let's hope we can find out what's going on.

vote Mockra

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:13 AM

@barghast, I think Omtose's vote makes it 8.

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:13 AM

View PostBarghast, on Apr 26 2009, 10:10 PM, said:

Not sure how many that is on Mockra, but I suggest we don't speed lynch him and use up all the time so we can be certain everyone has actions in.



I agree my main reason behind putting my vote in now is that I'll be going to bed soon and won't be back on for quite a while.

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:28 AM

View PostOmtose, on Apr 26 2009, 11:32 PM, said:

View PostTellan, on Apr 26 2009, 09:21 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on Apr 26 2009, 11:05 PM, said:

Okay how many votes on Mockra now? We don't want to rush the lynch...I would like to look at the possibility that either Kesso or Fener is lying, because if they were paired they should be on the same page as to what they're doing, not confused by one another.



huh?

lol, Fener revealed finder.
Mockra didn't

saying "hold on, let's not lynch him, b/c it may be a fake-reveal is WIFOM and very suspicious.

like somehting a symp would say, knowing his master's asleep, and he wants to give him more time to switch his NK on one of the suspected finders, maybe?

IGMEOY, Omtose.


In fact it strikes me as slightly suspicious that you suddenly appeared added nothing and voted mockra. So you just automatically took Fener's word and now you're pushing for a Mockra lynch. That might be something a symp would do too no? IGMEOY now!



dude, read my posts before I "just showed up"

I said I was leaviong would be back in 3-4 hours.

sure enough, 3.5 hours later I show up, catch up on what's been happening and vote.

do forgive me for not over-thinking whether Fener is lying or not, because there are 2 ways to test it, really

a) lynch fener. If he comes upguilt,y great, if the comes up inno, we'll never know if he was a symp or a finder.
or
b ) lynch the person he revealed again. if Mockra comes up anything other than guilty, we'll know Fener's full of it anyhow.

you can see now why I see the matter as rather clear-cut?

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:36 AM

View PostTellan, on Apr 26 2009, 10:28 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on Apr 26 2009, 11:32 PM, said:

View PostTellan, on Apr 26 2009, 09:21 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on Apr 26 2009, 11:05 PM, said:

Okay how many votes on Mockra now? We don't want to rush the lynch...I would like to look at the possibility that either Kesso or Fener is lying, because if they were paired they should be on the same page as to what they're doing, not confused by one another.



huh?

lol, Fener revealed finder.
Mockra didn't

saying "hold on, let's not lynch him, b/c it may be a fake-reveal is WIFOM and very suspicious.

like somehting a symp would say, knowing his master's asleep, and he wants to give him more time to switch his NK on one of the suspected finders, maybe?

IGMEOY, Omtose.


In fact it strikes me as slightly suspicious that you suddenly appeared added nothing and voted mockra. So you just automatically took Fener's word and now you're pushing for a Mockra lynch. That might be something a symp would do too no? IGMEOY now!



dude, read my posts before I "just showed up"

I said I was leaviong would be back in 3-4 hours.

sure enough, 3.5 hours later I show up, catch up on what's been happening and vote.

do forgive me for not over-thinking whether Fener is lying or not, because there are 2 ways to test it, really

a) lynch fener. If he comes upguilt,y great, if the comes up inno, we'll never know if he was a symp or a finder.
or
b ) lynch the person he revealed again. if Mockra comes up anything other than guilty, we'll know Fener's full of it anyhow.

you can see now why I see the matter as rather clear-cut?



I can understand why it's clear cut for you, I understand your views and you are free to vote which you did. There's no need however to jump all over someone becasue they want to discuss it and not speed lynch. I think we both came to the same conclusion just went about getting there in different ways. Does that make what I was sayinga bit more clear for you?

Edit for corrections

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:51 AM

View PostKessobahn, on Apr 26 2009, 09:38 PM, said:

okay, i cannot believe i have to do this, but time to let it ride

-I am a finder-

I have absolutely no idea if Fener is telling the truth about being a Finder, but I can state that Fener is innocent

i performed my find on Fener on night 1 (because he was aggressive day 1) after my 'drive by post' and completely missed night 2 due to RL.

i don't know what his game is, i have no idea how much of his statements are truth, but he is not guilty and lynching him is a terrible idea

i completely understand that this probably means i'm going to get killed tonight if fener is not lynched but consider that in the worst case scenario if fener is lying, you lynch Mockra today, Fener tomorrow, and me the next, and you've killed 2 scum at the expense of 1 inno lynch, 2 inno NKs.

i'm pissed i had to do this because it will kill me off too damn soon, but i'm certain you're going to lynch an innocent man.


I wake up and WTF. Seriously I don't need this shit I have to get up in a couple of hours.


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View PostBarghast, on Apr 27 2009, 05:07 AM, said:

So you didn't give any thoughts to the fact Fener may be the symp when you revealed?

Oh well, something doesn't quite make sense in this whole situation, however I'm going to go with Fener, his comments about lynch Mockra then lynch me are consistent with him being a finder and knowing he'll be guility. So we either save 2 finders and lynch scum now, or we lynch an inno and then have 2 probable scum.


Vote Mockra


i considered it, but the symp throwing himself away when no 'clear master' was even in danger of being lynched is pretty bad play

we could argue that fener HAS played a bad symp, but i'm rolling the dice that my find is legitimate



First

Remove Vote


Second

If you are a finder and did a find on Fener then he would come up inno if he is a symp.
I understand the argument for lynching Mockra first to test the theory. I am going to hold off my vote to give people time to decide on actions and what not. Fener I just want to say that if you are really a finder and Mockra is scum then you have revealed your self and another finder. In the first 3 days. Seriously WTF.

I am going back to bed. Quick before I go does anyone else want to claim finder or all knowing deity. :p

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:55 AM

View PostTennes, on Apr 27 2009, 05:51 AM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on Apr 26 2009, 09:38 PM, said:

okay, i cannot believe i have to do this, but time to let it ride

-I am a finder-

I have absolutely no idea if Fener is telling the truth about being a Finder, but I can state that Fener is innocent

i performed my find on Fener on night 1 (because he was aggressive day 1) after my 'drive by post' and completely missed night 2 due to RL.

i don't know what his game is, i have no idea how much of his statements are truth, but he is not guilty and lynching him is a terrible idea

i completely understand that this probably means i'm going to get killed tonight if fener is not lynched but consider that in the worst case scenario if fener is lying, you lynch Mockra today, Fener tomorrow, and me the next, and you've killed 2 scum at the expense of 1 inno lynch, 2 inno NKs.

i'm pissed i had to do this because it will kill me off too damn soon, but i'm certain you're going to lynch an innocent man.


I wake up and WTF. Seriously I don't need this shit I have to get up in a couple of hours.


View PostKessobahn, on Apr 26 2009, 11:09 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on Apr 27 2009, 05:07 AM, said:

So you didn't give any thoughts to the fact Fener may be the symp when you revealed?

Oh well, something doesn't quite make sense in this whole situation, however I'm going to go with Fener, his comments about lynch Mockra then lynch me are consistent with him being a finder and knowing he'll be guility. So we either save 2 finders and lynch scum now, or we lynch an inno and then have 2 probable scum.


Vote Mockra


i considered it, but the symp throwing himself away when no 'clear master' was even in danger of being lynched is pretty bad play

we could argue that fener HAS played a bad symp, but i'm rolling the dice that my find is legitimate



First

Remove Vote


Second

If you are a finder and did a find on Fener then he would come up inno if he is a symp.
I understand the argument for lynching Mockra first to test the theory. I am going to hold off my vote to give people time to decide on actions and what not. Fener I just want to say that if you are really a finder and Mockra is scum then you have revealed your self and another finder. In the first 3 days. Seriously WTF.

I am going back to bed. Quick before I go does anyone else want to claim finder or all knowing deity. :p


yeah I know a symp reveals as innocent, which is what burns me so much... it's a huge fucking risk to reveal TWO finders on day 2-3

if fener is a symp then I'm a fucking chump and will just impale myself on a rusty beer bottle

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 05:01 AM

AHA! Bottles don't rust! Now I know you are lying.

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 05:08 AM

View PostRuse, on Apr 27 2009, 06:01 AM, said:

AHA! Bottles don't rust! Now I know you are lying.


egads you got me :Surprise:

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 05:08 AM

I htink that depends on the quality of beer.

I'm sure there's some stuff that'll make glass crack and such

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 05:10 AM

View PostTellan, on Apr 27 2009, 06:08 AM, said:

I htink that depends on the quality of beer.

I'm sure there's some stuff that'll make glass crack and such


careful, if we rp too much we'll get called out for excessive rp

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 05:11 AM

A little tension breaking was in order I think.

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