[Tarcanus]

I played Lineage 2 for quite a while - got up to lvl 45, I think. I could never do it again unless I had 4-6 hours+ per day to devote to it. I didn't even really meet anyone interesting, either. My biggest problem with MMOs is the lack of a single player experience. I haven't seen one yet where you can successfully level yourself to max by yourself without resorting to hours of grinding because there are no quests or finally breaking down and joining parties.

There's nothing wrong with getting into parties and whatnot, but I always found myself online when no one else is, so I resorted to ridiculous grinding because nearly all quests require fighting, and certain classes just aren't meant for fighting (I played a Bishop). I just want the option to have a fully single player experience in a world where every other character moving around is another person who may or may not hinder my quest or whatnot.



Also, I've never understood why so many people lump Zelda games into the category RPG. Yes, you play the role of Link - but in every game you play the role of one character or another - but the LoZ games lack most of the usual RPG staples: leveling, numerical stats, and other party members. LoZ is much more adventure than RPG.

This post has been edited by Tarcanus: 29 June 2009 - 07:48 PM

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

I would consider Zelda action-RPGs.

[beru]

more a action platform game

[lokiman]

Anyone played Monster Hunter?

Ok, so its for the PSP, but its fun.

[Profeci]

1.Arcanum (the graphics being the only real disappointment)
2.KOTOR
3.NWN
4.NWN 2
5.KOTOR 2
6. Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines (glitches galore!!! but still enjoyable.)


Now if only they would combine all these into 1 truly apocolyptically cool game with a GODLIKE storyline. . .
Holding thumbs

[Silencer]

Good choices. I just wish they'd remake some of these without their glitches or with better graphics - can you imagine a reborn Arcanum, or a fixed and polished VtMB? EPICNESS.

[Gothos]

I can't understand why you pu KotOR1 above KotOR2... that doesn't make sense!

[Slow Ben]

The gameplay might be better in 2, but the story in 1 is waaaaaay better. And Kreia's just annoying, IMO.

[Gothos]

Kreia is one of the best villains in gaming history

[chill]

Slow Ben, on Jul 19 2009, 06:19 PM, said:

The gameplay might be better in 2, but the story in 1 is waaaaaay better. And Kreia's just annoying, IMO.

I'll agree that Kreia is annoying, but which story is better depends on your taste. Personally, I think the

Spoiler

"oh my god you're the only one that can save everyone even though you just started playing and then you have to save a hot chick which doesn't like you at first but will end up with you no matter how you end the game and you completely lost your memory about being the bad guy so now you can repent and be the the nicest superhero ever while kicking evil butts and tossing stupid one-liners like "the force is with me" or "you can still come back to the light side"

story in KotOR 1 is as cliched, predictable and boring as it can get. Because every one of us can name at least 10 movies with some if not all those plots.

The story in KotOR 2 is okay, even though the ending is shitty. Because you can choose not to give a fuck about everyone around you.

EDIT - oh, I forgot. Morrowind. Because it's one of the few games where I got the feeling you don't get everything on a silver platter - there are many things you have to work out yourself, but the result is very rewarding.
Also VtM Bloodlines.

This post has been edited by chill: 19 July 2009 - 06:45 PM

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Kreia can be annoying, but not nearly as obnoxious as Carth.

[Gothos]

chill, on Jul 19 2009, 07:29 PM, said:

The story in KotOR 2 is okay, even though the ending is shitty. Because you can choose not to give a fuck about everyone around you.

so the ending is shitty because you can choose? or the story is okay because you can choose?

[chill]

Gothos, on Jul 20 2009, 11:24 AM, said:

chill, on Jul 19 2009, 07:29 PM, said:

The story in KotOR 2 is okay, even though the ending is shitty. Because you can choose not to give a fuck about everyone around you.

so the ending is shitty because you can choose? or the story is okay because you can choose?

The story is good because you can choose. The ending is shitty no matter what you choose.

[D'rek]

Kurt Montandon, on Jun 19 2009, 06:36 PM, said:

Easy answer: FFIII (SNES). Might be just some nostalgia talking, but I really haven't played anything else that clicked the same way that game did, though KOTOR 1 &2 came fairly close (they were run too much on rails, though).

Oh, and as for defining "Role-Playing Game," I think the best definition is: You know it when you see it.

I'm with Kurt! FF3 (american title, FF6 in Japan) is most definitely the best RPG I've ever played. Huge world, lengthy story that remains engaging, fun but unique battle system, lots of optional exploration and sidequests and the story has plenty of emotional impact varying from laughing out loud to very sad (I think i might've cried at one point the very first time I played it). It may be an FF but there's only one anime cliche (one of the 15 playable characters is a magic pokemon-like thing). And Kefka is the best villain of all video game history according to the reader's choice edition of Gamespot's top-10 video game villains. I agree, of course!

[Morgoth]

Profeci, on Jul 17 2009, 12:21 AM, said:

1.Arcanum (the graphics being the only real disappointment)
2.KOTOR
3.NWN
4.NWN 2
5.KOTOR 2
6. Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines (glitches galore!!! but still enjoyable.)


Now if only they would combine all these into 1 truly apocolyptically cool game with a GODLIKE storyline. . .
Holding thumbs

Arcanum was brilliant. Twas sad magic was so wastly overpowered.

[Slow Ben]

Raymond Luxury Yacht, on Jul 19 2009, 11:40 PM, said:

Kreia can be annoying, but not nearly as obnoxious as Carth.

Yes!

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I was so mad when I played it out as the "bad guy" and you couldnt kill him. Just takes off running on the beach. Dammit!

I agree with Chill also, the ending sequence was cool, but the very end was shitty. Unless they were going to do another picking up from that point its pretty worhtless.

[Agraba]

I'm amazed how much FF7 was mentioned, especially out of a series which, in my opinion, has 4 much better titles. I guess it's because FF7 had the best storyline, with the most powerful impact in delivery - but it was far from the best gameplay in the series which, when you think about it, is what really counts in a video game.

My favourite RPG of all time would probably have to be FF Tactics for the PS1 (not the dreadful GBA version). That is followed closely by FF6 (FF3 in North America I guess).

[Tarcanus]

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Is pen & paper allowed?

If we go pen & paper, then I say Warhammer (not the 40k variety) all the way! Blows D&D right out of the water in terms of roleplaying and simplicity in stats and combat.

[Gothos]

Agraba, on Jul 24 2009, 02:31 PM, said:

I'm amazed how much FF7 was mentioned, especially out of a series which, in my opinion, has 4 much better titles. I guess it's because FF7 had the best storyline, with the most powerful impact in delivery - but it was far from the best gameplay in the series which, when you think about it, is what really counts in a video game.

to each his own I guess. i prefer a good storyline to great gameplay. for instance, take Legacy of Kain: Defiance. due to how the camera and controls work, some places are just HELL to play through. but the story and characters save the game and make it awesome.
a game with good gameplay and shit storyline is just minesweeper on steroids