[Slow Ben]

QuickTidal, on 02 January 2025 - 07:44 PM, said:

amphibian, on 30 December 2024 - 05:39 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 27 November 2024 - 05:12 AM, said:

I took my daughter and her friend to see wicked. They enjoyed. 2 hours and 40 minutes. They could have cut an hour and had a tighter film.

I actually don't think cutting things for this specific movie would have worked well enough. The point of Wicked is to make Elphaba AND Glinda characters that people in the audience connect to and want to see the story of. On stage, Elphaba kinda gets there by being a righteously angry lady and Glinda gets there by being magic Barbie who does interesting things. The books have much deeper character work, but they're books.

In the movie, I think there's actually 3-5 min that were cut that should have been in there - Elphaba and Glinda going to Oz on the train (connection between them as true friends rather than frenemies), maybe some of Elphaba and Fiyero interaction to show how she falls in love with him.

I think there's going to be at least 4 Oscars for this movie. Best Song, best costume, best adapted screenplay, and best supporting for Ariana Grande. I think Cynthia Erivo will get best Oscar for Part 2.

It's a pretty damn good musical.

I agree with Amph, and I juts watched and was blown away by how great it was..and how fast 2hrs40min went by. I was pleased by how much attention they paid to everything, and not just musical plot points, but book ones too. And the finale scene (Defying Gravity) for Part 1 felt like Endgame for how thrilling it was.

Just an incredible film top to bottom. I agree with the Oscar talk too, they all very much deserve the nods, and I'd add production design as well as it was stunning in every shot and scene. Attention to detail on par with Peter Jackson's LOTR.

100%


Only thing I’ll add is I was highly skeptical of Ariana Grande as Glenda and she was Phu-nominal.

Can’t wait for the next one.

[HoosierDaddy]

I'm going to be honest... this looked like a movie that I had little to zero nterest in. However, I'm getting the vibe that it is actually entertaining? If so, I'll give a shot. Didn't know it was a part 1 either.

[Tiste Simeon]

Watched Tenet yesterday. I'm definitely not intelligent enough for that film. Like the plot I can get with, but understanding how it all occurred had me confused! Good film but not rewatchable in the same way Inception is.

[Abyss]

SONIC 3 had no right to be as fun and entertaining as it was.
Marsden really needs to find some new work tho.

[QuickTidal]

Huh, aside from Cinematography, WICKED was shut out of the Golden Globes...which is strange...but the people who won I can't fault.

[polishgenius]

 Tiste Simeon, on 06 January 2025 - 11:36 AM, said:

Watched Tenet yesterday. I'm definitely not intelligent enough for that film.

Other way around. Tenet isn't all that complicated really, it's just shot, soundmixed and edited in the most obnoxious way possible to try to stop people figuring that out, and as such, any problem you had following it is Tenet's fault for being so stupid, not yours.


I have at least some time for all Nolan's other films, even the ones I dislike- Inception and TDKR- but Tenet is a hot mess. Truly dreadful movie.

[QuickTidal]

polishgenius, on 06 January 2025 - 07:34 PM, said:

Other way around. Tenet isn't all that complicated really, it's just shot, soundmixed and edited in the most obnoxious way possible to try to stop people figuring that out, and as such, any problem you had following it is Tenet's fault for being so stupid, not yours.


I have at least some time for all Nolan's other films, even the ones I dislike- Inception and TDKR- but Tenet is a hot mess. Truly dreadful movie.

The bolded....gets in Nolan's way much more than it ever should, and it's always a stylistic choice. I still recall seeing the opening for TDKR in front of (I think) Mission Impossible 4, the bit with Bane on the plane in IMAX and both my wife and I wondered if something was wrong with the sound because Hardy's Bane voice choice and the wind and mask muffling him made it all sound incomprehensible in a technical way...like I was thinking there was no way it was just how is was mixed...but after seeing the final film it absolutely was. And that problem started to show up in all his films. I can see his desire is to strive for real life sonic accuracy or even using it for tricks or feints...but this is the "deaf from the explosion mute" on steroids in everything he made after TDKR. Like there are sound mix issues even in DUNKIRK and OPPENHEIMER that are as bad.


I liken it to the penchant for recent TV directors, in an aim for "realism" to shoot night scenes as dark as fuck (instead of the tried and true day for night that allow you to actually see what's going on) to convey something to you as the viewer, but it does nothing but piss me off. I want to see what's going on. It would be like if the stage director of Les Mis wanted to use real muskets and squib blood packets instead of the iconic and evocative red cloths they used in the original production. Yeah, it may be more realistic, but it would be braindead stupid to do it.


I don't hate Nolan, but the last re-watchable film that I felt was excellent that he made was INCEPTION (2010)...I say re-watchable because though I liked OPPY a lot, it was depressing as fuck and I have ZERO interest in ever seeing it ever again. And I HATE INTERSTELLAR and never bothered with TENET and DUNKIRK was even a one-time watch for me.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 10 January 2025 - 03:29 PM

[polishgenius]

Yeah, it's genuinely bizarre. The choice, and his justification for the choice, speak to a lack of understanding of the art of cinema that is just baffling for someone with his success.

Basically he complains that people are fine with unorthodox visuals or filming on an iphone or whatever, and don't get criticised for that. And it's like yeah, Chris, but you still need to be able to see the movie. I've seen movies with incredibly weird soundmixes but it's done for effect, to enhance the story. The Muay-Thai prison movie A Prayer Before Dawn, for example. I understand that Sound of Metal and Zone of Interest both have really odd mixes, though I've not seen either yet- but it's there for effect.

Whereas Nolan's approach is more akin to shakycam action just for the sake of it, something which films did absolutely get it in the neck for when it was prevalent. The fact that Nolan can't see the difference really reflects badly on him.

[QuickTidal]

Watched WALLACE & GROMMIT VENGEANCE MOST FOWL with my son and we both enjoyed it...but they are always fun movies.

Then watched THE WILD ROBOT with the entire family and we sobbed our guts out. What a stunningly great film!

[Mezla PigDog]

I was awoken on 26th December by my son jumping on the bed saying "neat and tidy" in his best Gnobot voice. Not at all irritating.

[QuickTidal]

Mezla PigDog, on 14 January 2025 - 08:51 PM, said:

I was awoken on 26th December by my son jumping on the bed saying "neat and tidy" in his best Gnobot voice. Not at all irritating.

🤣 that’s so funny!

[Abyss]

QuickTidal, on 13 January 2025 - 01:25 PM, said:

....Then watched THE WILD ROBOT with the entire family and we sobbed our guts out. What a stunningly great film!

"Small wings are teeth, the claws of the sky . Show me your teeth!" cue me falling out of my seat laughing with joy.

[Tiste Simeon]

Has anyone seen Hereditary? I'm not normally a horror fan but I loved Midsommar and I've heard Hereditary is a good watch. Is it really disturbing? I'd quite like to watch it.

[worry]

With horror it's always YMMV based on what ticks your personal boxes, but I would consider Hereditary to be intensely disturbing. I won't go into detail, but it is much more focused on a single family going through horrific events. Midsommar kinda puts the folk horror stuff up front and lets the personal horror simmer underneath, to bubble up occasionally...and Hereditary does the inverse of that, to bleak and harrowing effect imo. I love em both though.

[HoosierDaddy]

Tiste Simeon, on 15 January 2025 - 10:48 AM, said:

Has anyone seen Hereditary? I'm not normally a horror fan but I loved Midsommar and I've heard Hereditary is a good watch. Is it really disturbing? I'd quite like to watch it.

worry, on 15 January 2025 - 11:16 AM, said:

With horror it's always YMMV based on what ticks your personal boxes, but I would consider Hereditary to be intensely disturbing. I won't go into detail, but it is much more focused on a single family going through horrific events. Midsommar kinda puts the folk horror stuff up front and lets the personal horror simmer underneath, to bubble up occasionally...and Hereditary does the inverse of that, to bleak and harrowing effect imo. I love em both though.

Hereditary is a fantastic horror movie. The atmosphere is deeply unsettling and the tension slowly rises and falls with the peaks each higher than the last throughout without ever really resolving

[Tiste Simeon]

I mean it sounds good but I'll have to see if I can hack it haha