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#8961 User is offline   polishgenius 

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 04:23 PM

You've missed the three best Pixar films: Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, and Monsters Inc. And Wall-E is a must-watch too- the ending slides a bit, but the first 40 minutes are the finest work Pixar's ever done imo.

When going through the Pixar films, also, make sure you watch the short films that come with each movie. Or see if you can find the two collections of them that have been released.

Non-Pixar, I greatly enjoyed Bolt. It's not essential but it's a lot of fun.
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 04:29 PM

I've already watched those 4. Hmm, wasn't there a Monsters University film that came out a few years ago?
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 07:04 PM

View PostSeduce Goose, on 19 June 2017 - 04:06 PM, said:

Okay, I've made a list of all the Disney films I've borrowed. Are there any essential ones I'm missing? I'm sure some of my child spawning friends may have more.

Brave
Cars
Cars 2
Moana
Tangled
Tarzan
The Emperor's New Groove
Toy Story
Toy Story 2
Toy Story 3
Up
Wreck it Ralph
Zootropolis

I think some of these aren't Disney films but same difference.



View Postpolishgenius, on 19 June 2017 - 04:23 PM, said:

You've missed the three best Pixar films: Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, and Monsters Inc. And Wall-E is a must-watch too- the ending slides a bit, but the first 40 minutes are the finest work Pixar's ever done imo.

When going through the Pixar films, also, make sure you watch the short films that come with each movie. Or see if you can find the two collections of them that have been released.

Non-Pixar, I greatly enjoyed Bolt. It's not essential but it's a lot of fun.



View PostSeduce Goose, on 19 June 2017 - 04:29 PM, said:

I've already watched those 4. Hmm, wasn't there a Monsters University film that came out a few years ago?


Disney-wise, The Princess and the Frog was cute. Bolt was ok but predictable even for Disney.
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Despicable Me was pretty awesome if we're going all animated as opposed to just Disney. The sequel less so.
The Shrek movies are overall pretty great.
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 07:13 PM

View PostAbyss, on 19 June 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

Despicable Me was pretty awesome if we're going all animated as opposed to just Disney. The sequel less so.
The Shrek movies are overall pretty great.



If we're talking all animated (children's) movies, then the obvious ones are the Ghibli canon (although most of the best films fall outside the time range, they didn't really come to Western prominence until after Spirited Away in 2001), plus the absolute must-watches that are The Secret of Kells and Song of the Sea.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 08:08 PM

Atlantis and Treasure Planet are probably two of my favourite Disney cartoons. I had never before heard about Emperor's New Groove and thought L&S was a TV series. I saw Mulan recently and it was very very meh, but then again I watched it after seeing all except for one of translated Ghibli movies for the first time(only seen Spirited Away before) and now they're all at the top of my list of the best cartoons. I love them. And I don't even like anime.

And I think Hannah-Barbera stuff that I've seen is in average better than Mulan.

Oh and keep the reccos coming please, I need stuff that I can watch with my sister

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 09:26 PM

Watch Holes, although I think your sister should be at least five or six to get the movie. Terrific story.
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 05:37 PM

I think you better stick to just Disney/Pixar for now, Apt. If you start accepting Dreamworks and Ghibli suggestions into the list, then Silencer and I are going to have to start piling on more Ghibli, and Chizu, and CoMix films, and QT will probably add the various festival-circuit animated films like Red Turtle, and you might wind up with a list that takes years to complete :(

 worrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 05:54 PM

View PostD, on 20 June 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

Silencer and I are going to have to start piling on more Ghibli, and Chizu, and CoMix films, and QT will probably add the various festival-circuit animated films like Red Turtle, and you might wind up with a list that takes years to complete :(


Can we get that list? I'm always on the lookout for more fantastical anime films. I'd never heard of Red Turtle, but it looks good.

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 06:52 PM

View PostD, on 20 June 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

I think you better stick to just Disney/Pixar for now, Apt. If you start accepting Dreamworks and Ghibli suggestions into the list, then Silencer and I are going to have to start piling on more Ghibli, and Chizu, and CoMix films, and QT will probably add the various festival-circuit animated films like Red Turtle, and you might wind up with a list that takes years to complete :(


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View PostD, on 20 June 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

Silencer and I are going to have to start piling on more Ghibli, and Chizu, and CoMix films, and QT will probably add the various festival-circuit animated films like Red Turtle, and you might wind up with a list that takes years to complete :D


Can we get that list? I'm always on the lookout for more fantastical anime films. I'd never heard of Red Turtle, but it looks good.


I could cobble together my portion of the animated festival films when I get a moment. Will chime back in when I've got it. Though Ghibli and TIFF often overlap for excellence in animation.

And RED TURTLE was amazing if you can find a copy.
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 07:10 PM

View PostWhisperzzzzzzz, on 20 June 2017 - 05:54 PM, said:

View PostD, on 20 June 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

Silencer and I are going to have to start piling on more Ghibli, and Chizu, and CoMix films, and QT will probably add the various festival-circuit animated films like Red Turtle, and you might wind up with a list that takes years to complete :(


Can we get that list? I'm always on the lookout for more fantastical anime films. I'd never heard of Red Turtle, but it looks good.


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Posted 20 June 2017 - 08:04 PM

By all means lay on me with the good Japanese/Asian animations films. I believe I've seen that one about the giant blue cat monster in the forest before. I'm just not interested in the typical anime/manga garbage that people seem to go crazy about.

Watched the Emperor's New Groove earlier since that seemed to be the one people were recommending the most.

First reaction: Like Mulan, this film looks really cheap. Was there are period around the turn of the century where Disney was in financial trouble or something? Was animation exorbitantly expensive before computers stream lined the whole process or something? I remember Hercules looking like shit as well.

It's confusing since I sort of think of Disney as the top of the line animation house, whose products always become hits at the cinema and must earn trillions in merchandise.

And yet The New Groove looks like a straight to DVD film?!

Anyway, that aside, you guys were right. It's a really fun and charming film. I was off put at the start but as soon as the Emperor turned into a Llama I was sold. The chemistry between the two characters, or the two voice actors, was excellent. Similarly the bad guy and her side kick were hilarious.

It's a film that doesn't try to sell you some story of an empire in peril or anything. It's just a bunch of funny characters chasing each other around.
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 08:14 PM

Alright, I'll give it a shot. (Note: I'm of course sticking only to films that are original or at least require no knowledge of the source material it is adapted from, or that you would have needed to see the related TV series first.)

To start, yes there's all the Ghibli-Miyazaki movies, as already mentioned. Miyazaki mostly likes making movies about and from the perspective of kids - among these Spirited Away, My Neighbour Totoro, and Arrietty are probably the best. He also has two more adult works - Princess Mononoke, which is more violent and with a big environmental theme of sorts, and The Wind Rises, a fictionalized biopic drama.

Ghibli has a few other directors, though, that can be completely different from Hayao Miyazaki. Isao Takahata's The Tale of Princess Kaguya (G-rated family/kids movie) and Grave of the Fireflies (a darker, much more serious film) are both very good.

In contrast to Miyazaki/Ghibli's mostly-kid-perspective style, Makoto Shinkai with Studio CoMix and Mamoru Hosoda with Studio Chizu tend to make more adolescence-themed films. Check out: Your Name, Summer Wars, Wolf Children, Garden of Words, and The Girl Who Leapt Through Time. These are mostly all big-name films (Your Name, in particular, broke a ton of records last year) so they mostly all have English voiceover versions, too.

On the opposite side of the spectrum, Satoshi Kon's films are all very much for adults, about adults: Perfect Blue, Millenium Actress, Tokyo Godfathers, and Paprika. Each of his films is about people living with two different facets to their life - e.g. a famous actress having very different private and on-camera lives. He also has a lot of amazing cinematography and editing - might be a good idea to watch/rewatch this Youtube video before you watch any of his films.

Other than those big names, here's some miscellaneous other G/PG-13 films I think are good:

Patema Inverted (a personal favourite of mine)
Redline (painstakingly hand-drawn over the course of, like, a decade)
Anthem of the Heart

(While we're at it, I'll also throw in two that are technically not feature films but pretty close: Little Witch Academia is a 45-minute short film that is basically anime-does-Harry-Potter; and Read or Die is like a straight-to-video movie about a bookworm English teacher who gets sent by British people to beat the evil Justice League after an electric samurai blows up the white house)


And likewise here's some misc adult films I'd recommend:

Sword of the Stranger (has some amazing fight choreorgaphy and animation, though the story is pretty flat)
In This Corner of the World (won a bunch of awards last year)


Last but not least, there is of course many older classics like Akira, Ghost in the Shell (and its sequel), Galaxy Express 999, Barefoot Gen, Harmageddon, etc, but I'm not the right person to try and curate a list of those.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 08:27 PM

Anyone who likes either Christopher Nolan or Darren Aronofsky should enjoy Satoshi Kon. Need to get Paranoia Agent (also finally watch Perfect Blue).
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 08:41 PM

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:04 PM

What are the plots of the Dirty Harry films? Is it just a typical action film formula? Bad guy does something bad, Dirty Harry is on the case, Harry blows up town centre, DAMN IT CALLAHAN YOU ARE LOSE CANON!, Harry does the dirty with sexy actress, Showdown with bad guy! ... Or are they more clever than that?

I feel like I must have watched all of them at some point but it's all pooled together into some kind of amalgamation of every 80s buddy cop action film I remember.
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:20 PM

I thought Dirty Harry were westerns...?!

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:26 PM

No, those films are the ones where he's typically The Man With No Name or somebody similar where he rides around, getting double crossed and then seeking vengeance, etc.

The Dirty Harry films are set in 70s San Francisco (I Think?), where Eastwood plays a tough on crime cop, who doesn't get along with anyone and shoots a lot of people with a 44 magnum.

I assume that you must be familiar with this classic scene:



Funny thing is I remember Callahan growling a lot more than he does in this scene but that might just be 90s Eastwood.

EDIT: Ahh, there's another scene, this is more like what I remember:


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Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:31 PM

I just watched Dirty Harry and The Dead Pool (sadly not a superhero mash up), and it was funny to see a young Liam Neeson, and a young Jim Carey in supporting roles. While it was never that good to begin with, this type of action movie has not aged well at all.

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:29 AM

View PostSeduce Goose, on 20 June 2017 - 09:26 PM, said:

No, those films are the ones where he's typically The Man With No Name or somebody similar where he rides around, getting double crossed and then seeking vengeance, etc.

The Dirty Harry films are set in 70s San Francisco (I Think?), where Eastwood plays a tough on crime cop, who doesn't get along with anyone and shoots a lot of people with a 44 magnum.

I assume that you must be familiar with this classic scene:


See, I was familiar with that scene in a general sense, knowing the lines and the layout but not the setting... and so I thought that scene happened outside a saloon.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 June 2017 - 09:03 AM

I guess the revolver is more evocative of a Western.
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