[QuickTidal]

polishgenius, on 09 January 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

Fast 6

Considering FAST 2 was pretty lame, FAST 3 was a fair step up, if not wholly great, FAST 4 was better, and began the process of converting the franchise from fast cars crimes movie to full on heist movies, and FAST 5 was actually very, very good....the inclination is that the franchise is moving UP in quality...thus giving me high hopes for FAST 6. Plus, Justin Lin has helmed the last 3 films all to some success...and he's helming the 6th.

[polishgenius]

QuickTidal, on 09 January 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

Considering FAST 2 was pretty lame, FAST 3 was a fair step up, if not wholly great, FAST 4 was better, and began the process of converting the franchise from fast cars crimes movie to full on heist movies, and FAST 5 was actually very, very good....the inclination is that the franchise is moving UP in quality...thus giving me high hopes for FAST 6. Plus, Justin Lin has helmed the last 3 films all to some success...and he's helming the 6th.

I thought 5 was the worst one in the series (largely because he went too strongly CG on the car chases), but other than that I'd agree and I think I'll probably enjoy it. My main reason for thinking that it won't live up to five is that five was almost certainly (they deny it, but not very vehemently) working from an adjusted version of the Brazilian Job script, which six obviously won't have.

Also they couldn't persuade Jason Statham to join.

[McLovin]

polishgenius, on 09 January 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

maybe Kick-Ass 2

Hmmmm, that sounds like fail. Chloe Moretz is too old to play Hit Girl now, and she was by FAR the best part of the original.

[QuickTidal]

McLovin, on 09 January 2013 - 05:01 PM, said:

polishgenius, on 09 January 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

maybe Kick-Ass 2

Hmmmm, that sounds like fail. Chloe Moretz is too old to play Hit Girl now, and she was by FAR the best part of the original.

Yeah, and the original was a huge hunk of crapola otherwise.

Oh and KICK ASS 2 shot on the street next to my place...it didn't look like it was going to be any roaring hell. But that's just from what I saw standing at the edge of the set.

[polishgenius]

McLovin, on 09 January 2013 - 05:01 PM, said:

polishgenius, on 09 January 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

maybe Kick-Ass 2

Hmmmm, that sounds like fail. Chloe Moretz is too old to play Hit Girl now, and she was by FAR the best part of the original.

Erm, why is she too old? I mean she's older than the character but she always was.


The main reason for hope over this is that the comic Kick-Ass 2 was far better than the first one and some moments, done right, will make for outstanding cinema.

The main reason for thinking it'll be meh is that Matthew Vaughn isn't directing it, and he was the one what elevated the whole thing since the first comic was dire. Nothing about Never Back Down, the only other Jeff Wadlow film I've seen, makes me think he's a particularly good replacement. But he might surprise me...

[Illuyankas]

I got as far into Kick-Ass as the part where he pretends to be gay to get close to the love interest and threw myself out of a window to escape. I despise shit like that in media in general.

[QuickTidal]

Illuyankas, on 09 January 2013 - 05:43 PM, said:

I got as far into Kick-Ass as the part where he pretends to be gay to get close to the love interest and threw myself out of a window to escape. I despise shit like that in media in general.

Me too.

I saw it with my gf in the theatre, and she looked at me halfway through and said "Are we meant to be enjoying this? I feel awful and think people are assholes full stop." and when we left the theatre she said "You should enjoy escaping into a film at the theatre, not made to feel like everything is bleak and fucked up and even HOPE is mean."

And Chloe was only a bright spot because she played her part well....well better than anyone else did.

[polishgenius]

Kick-Ass is the best action film since The Matrix and you're all heathens.

I find it odd that you thought it was bleak and cynical - I mean the subject matter was but it played it all with a wink and a smile and the end was a note of hope. Now the comic, that was just nasty.

[Illuyankas]

I wanted to bite the head off a baby to free them from existing in the same terrible universe as that movie. Seriously, the section where he's washing her hair or whatever? Canines, meet infant jugular. The end is irrelevant if your soul tears itself free from your meat husk in a bloody and messily fashion to pledge itself in service unto eternity for the Dark Lord Nicholas Cage partway through the film.

[QuickTidal]

polishgenius, on 09 January 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

Kick-Ass is the best action film since The Matrix and you're all heathens.

I find it odd that you thought it was bleak and cynical - I mean the subject matter was but it played it all with a wink and a smile and the end was a note of hope. Now the comic, that was just nasty.

Yikes. It's not even on the same level as THE MATRIX. Not remotely.

I'm not sure what grass you were smokin' when you watched it to bring that comparison...

Hell, LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD was a better "action" film than KICK-ASS.

I came away with the same feeling as WANTED...sure there's some cool stuff here...but EVERYONE is villainous...in fact WANTED is about the growth of a supervillain. I simply don't want to see that.

It's one of the reasons I can't watch DEXTER. I don't care if he's killing bad guys...he's still a serial killer...and I can't get behind a protagonist like that.

And that note of hope (the new superheroes)...was tainted by the fact that it didn't change the fact that the idea of joblo everyday person superhero was what the whole movie proved was a BAD IDEA. It totally fails for attempting to make that point repeatedly...and then telling us that it's going to start the process again with other joblo average superheroes. It's a failed experiment and the "hope" is that they will try and likely fail again?

Yeah, no.

And the plot of KICK-ASS 2 has him going back on his word to live a normal life and forming a super team to combat Red Mist's new team (he's called THE Mother Fucker now) the Toxic Mega-c**ts....I don't even....

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[polishgenius]

QuickTidal, on 09 January 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

I came away with the same feeling as WANTED...sure there's some cool stuff here...but EVERYONE is villainous...in fact WANTED is about the growth of a supervillain. I simply don't want to see that.

It's one of the reasons I can't watch DEXTER. I don't care if he's killing bad guys...he's still a serial killer...and I can't get behind a protagonist like that.

Well that's a different strokes for different folks thing mostly - it being about bad guys doesn't make it bad storytelling necessarily, just unpalatable to some people - but I don't think that's entirely fair to Kick-Ass (the film. It's entirely fair to the book). Kick-Ass himself is patently a good guy and while Big Daddy and Mindy are obviously broken, the film acknowledges that and plays her move towards normality as a positive.

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And that note of hope (the new superheroes)...was tainted by the fact that it didn't change the fact that the idea of joblo everyday person superhero was what the whole movie proved was a BAD IDEA. It totally fails for attempting to make that point repeatedly...and then telling us that it's going to start the process again with other joblo average superheroes. It's a failed experiment and the "hope" is that they will try and likely fail again?

Well I was more on about the personal fact- normal life for Mindy, improved lot for Dave - aided by the fact that lots of people suddenly got off their butts. And I think I took a different thing from it than you - I don't think it was trying too hard to make any point, but insofar as it was, it was an 'evil prospers while good men do nothing' theme, using superheroes as a medium.



Mostly the reason it's the best action film though is that the action itself is amazing. Both brilliantly paced throughout the film and brilliantly structured in each scene. With a great black comedy around it.

[Kruppe's snacky cakes]

Saturday the 14th (1981) - A horror spoof with Jeffrey Tambor, and a bunch of people I don't know. I caught this on EPIX Drive-in, which has become my one-stop-shop for kitschy old movies I didn't see the first time around because I was too young...


The Trial of Billy Jack (1974) - I could not bear to sit through 3 hours of Billy Jack (yes, 3 hours)...but I was curious, so I recorded this one and fast-forwarded through it. About halfway through he painted himself red and rapelled down a mountain, so of course I stopped to watch that part. He's wearing nothing but white leggings and a blue sash, that I can only guess was a prize for winning a Mr. Brady circa 1969 lookalike contest.

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Anyway, he gets to a cave. Apparently there was some peyote in the part I skipped, because he talks to some not-real cobras to allow him to pass. Suddenly he's wearing traditional Native American clothing, minus the sash (still painted red). A bunch of bats fly onto him and then disappear. Then blue Billy Jack appears and the blue and red versions chat for a bit.

Now he's in the desert (red Billy Jack, that is). An Indian maiden is teaching him the 3 levels of nonviolence. She tells Billy Jack to punch people in order to learn these levels.

The first group of people includes what I would assume are the 1974 versions of rednecks. They are standing around a TV set drinking beer. Billy Jack punches one of them, and he punches right back.

The second group appears to be a bunch of hippy college students at a protest. When Billy Jack punches one of them, none of them raise a hand against him, but they all start yelling at him.

Now we get to the third level, which appears to be Jesus talking to his followers. As you might expect, when Billy Jack punches Jesus, he turns the other cheek. Then he says the hippy version of something Jesus might say. Apparently, Jesus is not good enough for Billy Jack, because he asks the Indian maiden about the fourth level of nonviolence, but she won't tell him.

Now he's sitting atop one of the "how in the heck did he get up there?" peaks from the road runner cartoons.

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Trippiness concluded...at which point I stop watching.

[Mezla PigDog]

Saw The Life of Pi in 3D about a week ago. One of the rare books that I didn't get passed the first couple of chapters because I got bored - same for the first 30mins of the film but then it got quite good. The visuals were cool - I'm a massive fan of the new 3D and this is one of those movies definitely enhanced by it (Tintin being another). In general, nothing much to write home about but it looks really pretty (and if you can manage 30minutes after the film ends without saying "Richard Parker" in a hammy Indian accent, then you're a stronger person than me).

Also caught 2 British movies on DVD:

Exam, pretty novel so I would recommend it for a rainy afternoon in front of the tv.
Kill List, started boring, got super violent, got boring again, ended really weird. I wouldn't recommend it unless the thought of a bit of ultra-violence merged with The Wicker Man sounds like your kind of thing.

[QuickTidal]

Got Mrs. QT to watch DREDD hoping she would enjoy it...she certainly did!

So she wanted me to watch PITCH PERFECT...which was surprisingly good. It's like they mixed MEAN GIRLS, GLEE, and BRING IT ON into a big bowl and it spat out this movie which is far more entertaining than it has any right to be.

[Abyss]

DJANGO UNCHAINED. Haven't quite decided, but it may be Tarantino's bestest movie yet.

LIFE OF PI. Very pretty to look at. Clever, but not as life altering as some people seem to think.

REACHER. Crapper.

[QuickTidal]

See new Tarantino interview where when asked about movie violence he decides to throw a bit of a fit...

(the fun stuff starts at around 4:30)

My thoughts, while the interviewer TOTALLY needles him and is smug as shit, Tarantino is horrible at not losing his cool...he's a bit too hot tempered...and there are a number of videos floating around the net where he loses it a bit.

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[worry]

He also spit on some dude at the MTV awards a long while back.

Stll, I'd imagine he'd be a spindly ego-centric motormouth geek regardless of his level of fame or fortune, it's just in the hard-wiring of his personality. Doesn't hurt that in this particular case he's right, even if he's as obnoxious about presenting the right argument as he can be.

[polishgenius]

Tarantino always has come across as kind of a dick.

Good films though.



Just watched Dredd. Now that was a good film. Made all the right choices. In my top three of last year at the moment, probably.

[Tiste Simeon]

Stupid Les Mis... Making me cry like that at the end... Now I need to go & punch a tree or hit rocks with an axe at the top of a mountain, shirtless, while some dude wails an epic guitar solo. Got to regain my man points somehow!

Seriously though, good film!

[amphibian]

Nobody revoked my man status for crying at the end of The Notebook. I think you are ok.