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Posted 20 September 2014 - 01:15 PM

Traveller, on 20 September 2014 - 12:45 PM, said:

That's pretty much what most people I've spoken to about this have said. I'll check it out this weekend - if I'm feeling emotionally stable enough to handle it!

Has anyone seen any of the similar but non-Ghibli films like The Wolf Children, The Girl who Leapt Through Time, or Summer Wars? I was thinking of checking these out after some good write-ups.

The Girl Who Leapt Through Time and Summer Wars are both BRILLIANT (and QT will back me up on those, I'm sure

) and absolutely worth a watch. Haven't watched The Wolf Children yet myself...

5 Centimeters Per Second is also totally awesome if you haven't seen that yet. (Though also rather a tear-jerker, as with Grave and TGwLTT...)

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Posted 20 September 2014 - 01:45 PM

I haven't watched The Girl Who Leapt Through Time or Summer Wars yet but the director of them (it's the same guy, right?) has got an absolutely stellar reputation.

5 Centimeters Per Second is absolutely stunning. Visually it's on another level, not even Miyazaki touches Makoto Shinkai for beauty, imo. His other work is good too - from what I've seen, as I've not yet had the chance to check out his most recent two films, annoyingly.

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Posted 20 September 2014 - 02:46 PM

Silencer, on 20 September 2014 - 01:15 PM, said:

Traveller, on 20 September 2014 - 12:45 PM, said:

The Girl Who Leapt Through Time and Summer Wars are both BRILLIANT (and QT will back me up on those, I'm sure

Recco for all of them actually. SUMMER WARS is my fave...but both GIRL and WOLF are great as well.

And yeah, 5 CENTIMETERES PER SECOND is heartbreakingly beautiful, but quite melancholy.

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Posted 20 September 2014 - 04:09 PM

I just found Summer Wars and TGwLTT as a double bluray set for less than a regular dvd.

I originally set out to find more Ghibli films for my daughter, but I've ended up finding a load that I want to watch that will be unsuitable for her!

I'm glad she likes the ones we have so far; I don't mind them on repeat like some of the kids tv that's on, and I'd rather she grows up with the likes of Nausicca as well as Disney films (which aren't bad; they do have some classic scenes and animation).

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Posted 20 September 2014 - 05:32 PM

It's not really apropos of anything, but since we're recommending films, I'd like recommend a few non-Japanese films as a reminder that Europeans can do animation too, on the off-chance that some may not have seen them:

The Triplets of Belleville (or Belleville Rendez-Vous), a brilliant almost dialogue-free French film about a grandmother searching for her kidnapped cyclist son. Lots of bizarre, slightly dark comedy and amazingly drawn. One of my favourite films of all time. The director's other effort, The Illusionist (not the Ed Norton film) is also well worth a look; though that one is sad.

The Secret of Kells, an Irish animation that's half-fairytale, half the fictionalised account of the creation of a real bible. It's delightful and absolutely gorgeous to look at. One of the better fantasy films of recent years.

A Town Called Panic - this is a bit of an odd-one-out because it's stop-motion claymation made cheep-and-cheerful, so it's not something particularly pretty, and there's not much of a plot, but it's fucking hysterical. Genuinely one of the funniest films I've seen for ages. If you like Loony Tunes style bizzaro slapstick it's definitely for you.

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Posted 20 September 2014 - 08:30 PM

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Posted 20 September 2014 - 09:56 PM

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Spoilsport Stonny, on 19 September 2014 - 07:36 PM, said:

Ghost, but done in an original way, with some obvious J-horror homages. Its pretty good considering the sorry state of the genre.

good, my preferred type. will watch.

Watched. Liked it. Rare for a western horror, that.

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Posted 20 September 2014 - 11:08 PM

Gothos, on 20 September 2014 - 09:56 PM, said:

Gothos, on 19 September 2014 - 08:10 PM, said:

Spoilsport Stonny, on 19 September 2014 - 07:36 PM, said:

Ghost, but done in an original way, with some obvious J-horror homages. Its pretty good considering the sorry state of the genre.

good, my preferred type. will watch.

Watched. Liked it. Rare for a western horror, that.

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Posted 20 September 2014 - 11:17 PM

Traveller, on 20 September 2014 - 04:09 PM, said:

I find the two best kid-friendly Ghibli films are TOTORO, and KIKI'S DELIVERY SERVICE. Both are gold. Though Totoro is kinda sad.

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 07:32 AM

QuickTidal, on 20 September 2014 - 11:17 PM, said:

Traveller, on 20 September 2014 - 04:09 PM, said:

I find the two best kid-friendly Ghibli films are TOTORO, and KIKI'S DELIVERY SERVICE. Both are gold. Though Totoro is kinda sad.

Why sad? It has a nice overall theme, and it ends well enough. Kiki is good too, very light and well paced enough to keep kids watching. My daughter likes Ponyo, but only really the first two thirds - it has a fairly weak ending after the scenes where she finally gets to be human.

Arrietty is nice but suffers from being a bit slow for kids.

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 08:34 AM

Show Pom Poko and you won't have to give sons the talk. It shows them exactly what nards are for.

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 11:25 AM

Traveller, on 21 September 2014 - 07:32 AM, said:

Arrietty is nice but suffers from being a bit slow for kids.

The worst thing about Arrietty is the clanging environmental lectures.

But also, while a decent little film, it didn't really capture The Borrowers for me.

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 01:39 PM

Traveller, on 21 September 2014 - 07:32 AM, said:

QuickTidal, on 20 September 2014 - 11:17 PM, said:

Traveller, on 20 September 2014 - 04:09 PM, said:

I find the two best kid-friendly Ghibli films are TOTORO, and KIKI'S DELIVERY SERVICE. Both are gold. Though Totoro is kinda sad.

The mother's portion of the story is sad. Everything else is great! But yeah, she's convalescing from some terrible ailment.

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 03:09 PM

I like the Miyazaki films where they have big convoluted contraptions. I think the details of the animation on those creations is amazing. the moving castle in HOWlS MOVING CASTLE, Kamaji's machine in SPIRITED AWAY, pretty much all of CASTLE IN THE SKY.

Those films are all amazing for many different reasons, but seeing something like that on screen is awesome, thinking of the detail and time that goes into it, not to mention the mind that can fathom how machines like that would work. A world of pure imagination.

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 03:28 PM

QuickTidal, on 21 September 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:

The mother's portion of the story is sad. Everything else is great! But yeah, she's convalescing from some terrible ailment.

It's melancholy in places, but I don't think the overall message is sad.

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 04:29 PM

polishgenius, on 21 September 2014 - 11:25 AM, said:

Traveller, on 21 September 2014 - 07:32 AM, said:

Arrietty is nice but suffers from being a bit slow for kids.

The worst thing about Arrietty is the clanging environmental lectures.

Pretty much ALL the Miyzaki Ghibli films have the envinromental message at their core. I'd assume his son follows those values as well.

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 04:54 PM

Spoilsport Stonny, on 21 September 2014 - 03:09 PM, said:

Don't forget the airships and huge winged flying machines that appear in various forms - the ones in Howl's with the moving wings/fins are amazing, as are the ones in Castle in the Sky.

The things that make them so worth watching for me are the little details, the physical world made so solid and convincing. Water moves and flows, mud has weight, and rain and rain storms start slow and turn into real downpours.. the time spent on the detail shows a real love of the whole process.

The flying is great too, from Nausicaa on her glider to the dogfights in Porco Rosso.

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 04:59 PM

QuickTidal, on 21 September 2014 - 04:29 PM, said:

Pretty much ALL the Miyzaki Ghibli films have the envinromental message at their core. I'd assume his son follows those values as well.

Absolutely, but they're part of the story and not thrown in your face. Arietty's story isn't particularly environmental by nature, instead occasionally the plot just stops and the characters (one in particular that I recall, I've not seen it in a while) come not far off of outright turning to the viewer directly to tell them off.

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Posted 21 September 2014 - 05:16 PM

Maybe so, but on the other hand, at this late stage how subtle do you want your "Hey guys, disaster is just around the corner and it's your fault" warnings? Mononoke was almost 20 years ago. If Arrietty ignored The Borrowers completely and had literally been 90 minutes of animated tiny people breaking the 4th wall by excoriating the audience on animal rights and consumption, it wouldn't have been too inappropriate. Compared to say Ponyo, Arrietty might have been even too subtle.

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