[Mentalist]

ah, it's not all bad,
they'll lynch Korvalain, he'll turn up Sabbat, and they'll think Sabbat are the FMs and panic,

seriously, I'm afraid that the endgame will just have the three scum teams duking out. May have needed better balancing for the Anarch team

your thoughts, ST?

[Peanutbutta]

ST you almost had me pegged. You shoulda stuck with your original guess.

I'm sure you've read SH by now but I intentionally posted differently than normal in my first game. This game is pretty close to normal posting style.

If you want my advice (unsolicited), Insane Finder was a really crippling mechanic to the town, esp when scum had a finder. Scum had 3 Nosferatu and basically our power is useless due to not allowing Camarilla to 'choose' their override-BP ability and just auto-using it. Otherwise, it's just a matter of the teams playing well. I still think town can pull it off but they need Cam/Sab/Baali to keep beating each other up.

This post has been edited by Peanutbutta: 20 April 2009 - 04:38 AM

[Path-Shaper]

some major meta by Anogavin:

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Well damn. This game isn't going so well now, Sabbat I'd say are gone. But the other two are going too well.

One thing I've realised, I haven't alted Jump yet, normally I spot him easily. I had Ruse pegged as JA in fact, and now I see Ruse is Tapper. Are you sure your right?

Also Possession is it to stop the FM possesing me?


I have to say I'm going to go for Korvalain today, the FM jumping again would be nasty.
I think D'riss case has enough merit to go for it. But damned if I know who the killers are. There's plenty of suspects and lots of low posters who haven't been on this weekend.

yes, posession refers to the action of the FM

Fuck, I just had a horrible horrible thought.
Ruse was JA and he was the FM. He jumped overnight into Tapper whose an Anarch.
Thus explains the Tapper CF. Two FM's? Hmm... damn. Need to explain the kills though. Ampelas claims to have been one. Where did the other go if Ruse is a FM.

Question, if my BP gets hit, or someone tries to possess me, am I informed?

yes, you will be
-ment

JA will not like this,

hey, tapper!

what'd you think of the game?

[Path-Shaper]

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Well damn. This game isn't going so well now, Sabbat I'd say are gone. But the other two are going too well.

One thing I've realised, I haven't alted Jump yet, normally I spot him easily. I had Ruse pegged as JA in fact, and now I see Ruse is Tapper. Are you sure your right?

Also Possession is it to stop the FM possesing me?


I have to say I'm going to go for Korvalain today, the FM jumping again would be nasty.
I think D'riss case has enough merit to go for it. But damned if I know who the killers are. There's plenty of suspects and lots of low posters who haven't been on this weekend.

yes, posession refers to the action of the FM

Fuck, I just had a horrible horrible thought.
Ruse was JA and he was the FM. He jumped overnight into Tapper whose an Anarch.
Thus explains the Tapper CF. Two FM's? Hmm... damn. Need to explain the kills though. Ampelas claims to have been one. Where did the other go if Ruse is a FM.

Question, if my BP gets hit, or someone tries to possess me, am I informed?

yes, you will be
-ment

So damn looking through Ruse I'm convinced he's JA and he's a FM and now jumped in Tapper. Going to keep it to myself for now and see if I can't spot the new alt. Can't guess who Tapper was though.

Fuck town is screwed.

hmm
wouldn't quite give up on them yet
Cam's been in the clear, true

but, there is still Omtose who blow someone up (and he'll prolly go for Obdi once he finds him)

the argument so far today is between lynching the Sabbat guard or the Baali. if they lynch Gem, the town keeps their healer.

they lost all finder,s which is a shame, but they are not out yet, I don't think.

[Path-Shaper]

zomg, remind me to never, ever mod again,

from Meanas:

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You have successfully prepped Meanas for posession

mods will inform you when you can start PM-ing Gamelon.

-ment

Uhm, is this meant for me? Because I'm not sure how I can prep myself for possession. Am I being possessed? Or is this a slipup?

how the hell?
I know I sent this PM to gem

[Tapper]

Starting to read SH now... For the part that I was in, I had a blast!
LOVE the idea of bloodlines as basic roles.

see from the setting and the roles that this game looks a bit like the Rome game in some of ideas (cult, double and non-voters, etc), if you squint and pull a weird face at the same time

Few starting thoughts:
no-one can rub me as much the wrong way as Gem can when she wants to!
(Sowwy Gem, luv you really :gaes-orfantal:) I really thought Barghast was Obdi or Bubba, especially when she pulled out those pictures .

I had Serc pegged as Morgoth, but Venge and I always get along in-game, so no real surprise there;

Whoever is D'riss has done a very good job of putting me to sleep.

Also, JA is right that he and I share a lot of the same posting styles and are relatively hard to tell apart, but I did a spectacular job this game of not hiding myself with the Morgo references and making lists with dots in them, as I really didn't care to show my alt. The one thing that was missing was an RP reference to myself and maybe saying oki a couple of times.

Will get back to you on what I think of the game/ balance and chances when I've gone through 9 pages SH

[Tapper]

Ah, D'riss is STD. That man is a role-magnet, but he's also becoming an awesome player.

[Tapper]

Hmm, thoughts on the set-up:

Town:
I'm not a big fan of the silencing mechanic, and would usually associate it with scum. Town wants and needs people to talk, they shouldn't have this ability (although it is a nice tease ), but if they have it, shouldn't use it, imho.
All the other bloodlines are cool and the right numbers, I like the Nosferatu and Toreadors could be nearly unstoppable end-game (especially once culted! The fact that 2 of the 3 are dead aside ), not to mention that the Tremere is effing good.
Personally, I wouldn't have put more Ravnos than Ventrue in the game, but that's just me.
All in all, town seems balanced. I would say they lack 1 thing and that is a proper guard. I'd have substituted the silencers with guard roles, maybe put a timing on them to prevent them from locking down the game.

Baali:
FMs rock, and that is tripled in efficiency by their players. The Predator in Aliens 2.0 aside, this might be one of the best scum teams ever.

Camarilla:
isn't a serial killer role supposed to be last man standing all by himself? I like the disable BP thingie.

Sabbat:
Nice, good set-up, more of them than I had expected, but 3 is a good number to be efficient.

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And now on to who said what

[Path-Shaper]

Tapper here, posting the 11 pms received by P-S. I left all of them in the inbox so that you can reply to them. Some contain rule questions. For your info, the first one is Meanas, at 08:27 AM, P-S time.

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You have successfully prepped Meanas for posession

mods will inform you when you can start PM-ing Gamelon.

-ment

Uhm, is this meant for me? Because I'm not sure how I can prep myself for possession. Am I being possessed? Or is this a slipup?

I will look into it.
sounds like a mod screwup,

-ment

Balls, I cant really do anything today then can I? It would be bastard of me to reveal Gam is some sort of scum or that I'm about to be possessed since I got the info by accident and I dont really know how I can play without that knowledge affecting everything I do I cant even ask for a modkill since even that would be an anti-possessor play.

Also, I had a heal placed on Ruse last day. Was his death also a screwup or should I assume two people targetted him/someone guarded me?

Omtose, talking about Telas I assume:

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Why lynch Omtose?

All my arguments to keep him around serving to try and make the other teams nervous and waste a nk on him...then they fucking lynch him...to what end?

baaaaaah

Provisional by Emurbwgan:

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What a night not to be on. At least being on the train makes distance with Tel - sorry Tel, but I just didn't get your game play - my bad...

I really should have targetted Omtose last night - so please can he be my target tonight.

Thanks

*sigh*

more Emur:

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Just in case anyone is wondering - I really have got college today - started a one day a week course - so once I'm off, no access to internet until at least 9pm.

Omtose:

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Current suspects are

Mockra - seesm to over explain simple things, which is usually an indication of someone who is nervuos and is scared to make mistakes.

Anomander - very carefull with what he says

Meanas - not sure why...call it gut

I would also throw gamelon in there because he REALLY wanted telas gone ASAP...

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saw you raging in thread. just to let you know, we did get your order on Korvalain.
-ment

...???????!!!!!!!

Oh, so there were 3 kills last night?! Wow, damn. Ok sorry, I guess I was tired and had visions of my strategy collapsing around me...

[Path-Shaper]

Barghem, waiting for resolve:

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Did my prepare on Meanas work? I haven't got a result from you guys.

Gam & Gem:

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Hey Gem, did your preparation work? On who was it?

At least we know why your attempt on Ampelas failed

I tried Meanas, and it seems like it worked, because I haven't got a failed message.

I am pondering a reveal on Korv, but I am lousy at reveals, what should the fake info look like? Should I just say I am a finder or what? I definitely need to reveal, or they will lynch me. Maybe.

I'll try to get a confirmation from the mods about Meanas.

Well, hopefully it worked.

For the reveal, I would say you have limited finds, to not have to fake the finds on nights 1 and 2, that's always tricky.

Also, don't forget that Korvalain is Sabbat, that was Silanah's "result"

Otherwise, just say whatever you would say if you were really an inno with limited finds that investigated Korvalain last night To compensate for why you only have one find, just say you also have a BP or something, some complex role.

Sadly, I don't know if the town have something special in their role PM that will come back to bite you. That's part of the fun

[Path-Shaper]

More Gem & Gam:

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Hey Gem, did your preparation work? On who was it?

At least we know why your attempt on Ampelas failed

I tried Meanas, and it seems like it worked, because I haven't got a failed message.

I am pondering a reveal on Korv, but I am lousy at reveals, what should the fake info look like? Should I just say I am a finder or what? I definitely need to reveal, or they will lynch me. Maybe.

I'll try to get a confirmation from the mods about Meanas.

Well, hopefully it worked.

For the reveal, I would say you have limited finds, to not have to fake the finds on nights 1 and 2, that's always tricky.

Also, don't forget that Korvalain is Sabbat, that was Silanah's "result"

Otherwise, just say whatever you would say if you were really an inno with limited finds that investigated Korvalain last night To compensate for why you only have one find, just say you also have a BP or something, some complex role.

Sadly, I don't know if the town have something special in their role PM that will come back to bite you. That's part of the fun

Heh, thanks for the 'Reveal 101' I'm waiting for confirmation from the mods, then I can reveal.

Actually, that Ampelas thing is interesting.

He's actually saying that Korv is NOT the FM, since he was attacked (by you ) the day Korv shifted, and he says that Korv is BP.

Then you should come out and "out" Korv as the other scum (Cammi-something), saying that it explains your confusion this morning when you got the mod's PM. You knew he was not Silnah's new shell, but weren't sure how to make a case on him, so you just voted him repeating the FM case.

Say that it seems we caught a "scum" by chance!

Rashan, rule question!!!

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Well Amp claims to have gotten an answer and last time I seemed to be ignored
This time I would at least like a pm back that tells me whether or not I am allowed the information
He claims that he was told it was a FM bp...
What does possession protection mean i think is the correct answer

Gamelon, preparing to Jump Around some more: PROVISIONAL:

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By the way,

prepare possess Omtose tonight


I always dreamed of RPing as dktorode

Anomandaris:

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So Tapper, both I and Ampelas have queried our possession immunity and been told by the Mod that it directly relates to the FM. If Rashan asks he should recieve the same.


Also want to let me know what alt JA is now?
I'm thinking Tennes, Mockra or Omtose at the moment.
Really looking closely at Omtose.

Sadly, that answer is nowhere to be found amongst the sent items, or I would send it on
As I said on topic, I'm not modding so much as posting the PMs and doing some minor legwork to keep the inbox from flooding. I understand there is some urgency here, too, as there's pressure building.

Will see what I can do, but if I even have a sliver of doubt, I won't post it. It's not my game and thus, not up to me to make a decision

Ment, Grief, attention please (message from alt146/ Meanas asking for a ruling)

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Good, I see one of you is in, I assume this is Grief.

Anyway, I dunno if Ment told you, but he accidently sent me a PM meant for one of the Scum. So I know there's an FM, that he's busy possessing me and that his partner is Gam. I dont really feel all that comfortable playing now, since that's pretty huge info. Even if I dont mention any of it in thread it still gives me a big advantage for today at least. I would just ask for a modkill, but even that could be seen as being a little unfair, since it would deny the possessor a target (I gather it takes at least one night of waiting before it goes through).

The best I can come up with is to just not play until either the possession goes through or whoever is trying to possess me is killed. So I'm asking for a modkill extension until one of those two things happen. Maybe you can talk to Ment and let me know what I should do, I caught him on his way to bed this morning, so he could only confirm that he had made a mistake.

Thanks

Alt

hi Alt,

Tapper here. I'm not going to solve complicated stuff like this and your dilemma is definately a tough one.
Will post this PM, give it a nice header in red caps that should catch mod-attention. That being said, I think your mod-kill extension sounds reasonable.

[Path-Shaper]

oki, sent this to Rashan:

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Since Amp claims he asked, does cannot be possessed mean I cannot be taken over by the FM

Oki, I'm going to be skating on thin ice here.
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Since you have formed a blood pact with the rest of your cell, the original members of the sabbat cannot be possessed.

Yes, possession means the FMs action.

- Tapper.

(that was almost literally what you said to Ano-Gavin and he was kind enough to forward me that PM).

[Path-Shaper]

Oki, everything I sent out can be found in the sent folder of P-S... - Tapper

[Tapper]

JA's about to make a massive mistake by using the smilie... it's one I never touch, and he himself does it all the time, it's one of his tells. Same for one liner posts... won't find me doing that much either. I hope Ano-Gavin will latch onto it like a bloodhound, will make for an interesting hunt, all the more so since JA won't jump alt tonight.

[Sixty]

I'm rooting for town this game, however unlikely it's getting, what with Obdi somehow still alive and not under suspicion. D:

[Tapper]

Hmm. Well, with bwgan still recruiting, Camarilla killing and FM dropping the numbers from within, they're essentially losing 3 players a night even if they lynch scum. I fear that nothing is going to help them. This will be FM versus Camarilla, in the end, I think, unless Sabbath suddenly gets nearly a majority and connects the dots, isolating the FM.

[Tapper]

Also, I love how NO-ONE questions Gem's reveal, how many finds she did, why she targeted Korv, etc. Malazan finder dependency at its finest

[Sixty]

Well if Omtose ninja-kills Obdi, something manages to expose Emuwgan with the potential korvalain lynch, and Anogavin locking on to JA...we have a chance.

[Path-Shaper]

PM's:

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Fuuuck, I just realized that if people see

"Gamelon (dktorode) is dead"

They'll speed lynch Omtose, the bugger is too obvious.

change provisional to prepare into Anomandaris

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HAHAHAHA he was Sabbat.

Shit, there's lots of those.

This is good, innos will be confused if you're scum or not, and the Camalli (who I think can kill) will think you're with them.

Hopefully no NK, and you can shift.

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Hiya Gem, as copied from SH:

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You have successfully prepped Meanas for posession

mods will inform you when you can start PM-ing Gamelon.

-ment

- Tapper
Not sure what he means with the PM-ing stuff, though.... but seems you're already on it anyway

Hah, I never got that pm... but I figured it worked anyway. Thanks.

yw, nice reveal there, too

Thanks, but I can't take credit for it, it was basically written by JA. He's a scary bastard.

[Tapper]

Funnily, kills come before possessions, so if Obdi wants to take out a finder, he will kill Gem before she possesses Meanas. AFAIK, she hasn't sent in her provisional either. will go and look.