[D'riss]

Korlat, on Apr 18 2009, 10:12 PM, said:

Ruse, on Apr 18 2009, 11:02 PM, said:

... So you sayin' lynch the low posters?

I'm saying don't let the chronically low posters sign up for the game, there's like 5-6 every time, so I gotta take a 5 in 20 chance they are on my team? Why follow the same patterns? Yeah I get it, it's the safe play, it's also boring. I guess I'm just coming to grips with the fact that for me it's difficult to participate in a game where we spend 4-6 days getting rid of the blow-ups and the non-committal.

Solutions:

1) Don't blow up.
2) Put more pressure on the low posters early to get them talking.


I don't understand why you're complaining now - we haven't even had nights 3-6 yet, how do you know they're going to fall into the pattern you describe?

[D'riss]

EDIT: Double post.

This post has been edited by D'riss: 18 April 2009 - 09:21 PM

[Mockra]

Ruse, on Apr 18 2009, 11:13 PM, said:

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 11:06 PM, said:

Then Korlat which seems to be an actual legitimate case. He apparently strawmanned Liosan, got beaten back, then pretended to go to sleep and when Liosan said more against him, he reappeared to defend himself claiming it was his strategy?

And now he's claiming "burn-out" on day 2 after minimum challenge, giving up defending for fear-mongering.

I'm not saying it's impossible the scum is just lurking right now, but his last post is a bit over the top.

OK Korlat seriously, I understand if you feel frustrated at the number of low posters, but seriously WTF, Ruse has a point, your post is over the top. Which means you are either playing for pity, or have gotten sick and tired of the game already. So if anything I at least am starting to get suspicious of you.


However I am looking at the reality of the current situation and I am thinking this is silly, at the rate we going with my vote and the votes of everyone voting atm, we do not have enough votes to lynch you, unless you do in fact feel like obliging us with a self-hammer.

[D'riss]

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 10:23 PM, said:

Ruse, on Apr 18 2009, 11:13 PM, said:

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 11:06 PM, said:

Then Korlat which seems to be an actual legitimate case. He apparently strawmanned Liosan, got beaten back, then pretended to go to sleep and when Liosan said more against him, he reappeared to defend himself claiming it was his strategy?

And now he's claiming "burn-out" on day 2 after minimum challenge, giving up defending for fear-mongering.

I'm not saying it's impossible the scum is just lurking right now, but his last post is a bit over the top.

OK Korlat seriously, I understand if you feel frustrated at the number of low posters, but seriously WTF, Ruse has a point, your post is over the top. Which means you are either playing for pity, or have gotten sick and tired of the game already. So if anything I at least am starting to get suspicious of you.


However I am looking at the reality of the current situation and I am thinking this is silly, at the rate we going with my vote and the votes of everyone voting atm, we do not have enough votes to lynch you, unless you do in fact feel like obliging us with a self-hammer.

There's still 7 hours, that's quite a lot of time for people to show up. But it does mean we need to come to a decision sharpish.

[Korlat]

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 11:23 PM, said:

Ruse, on Apr 18 2009, 11:13 PM, said:

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 11:06 PM, said:

Then Korlat which seems to be an actual legitimate case. He apparently strawmanned Liosan, got beaten back, then pretended to go to sleep and when Liosan said more against him, he reappeared to defend himself claiming it was his strategy?

And now he's claiming "burn-out" on day 2 after minimum challenge, giving up defending for fear-mongering.

I'm not saying it's impossible the scum is just lurking right now, but his last post is a bit over the top.

OK Korlat seriously, I understand if you feel frustrated at the number of low posters, but seriously WTF, Ruse has a point, your post is over the top. Which means you are either playing for pity, or have gotten sick and tired of the game already. So if anything I at least am starting to get suspicious of you.


However I am looking at the reality of the current situation and I am thinking this is silly, at the rate we going with my vote and the votes of everyone voting atm, we do not have enough votes to lynch you, unless you do in fact feel like obliging us with a self-hammer.

I said I'd hammer, I'm an anarch and quite persuasive, so my vote counts double, that should make it easier. Glad you at least acknowledged the situation which is that it's sad that we can barely scrape together 10 votes with 21 people left. I've played this game face-up like I always do, regardless of what you might think. How'd I know Liosan would come back? I'm just that good, it's not guessing if you are right.

[Mockra]

Well I sincerely doubt that we can get anyone lynched who does not have any votes on themselves right now, so that leaves Rashan, Korlat and Galain.
So a low poster, someone who lied to the board publicly and overreacted and errr... Rashan.

I am going to look back over Rash, but tbh it looks like it will be Korlat today or more likely night will time out.

[Meanas]

Right now I dunno. Korlat's defence seems decent, but asking to be lynched always screams of scum bluff to me. TBH honest none of the options really seem 'good' right now, but we need lynches to keep the game moving. I think I'm going leave my vote where it is since with only seven hours left and the likelyhood that some people may not show up becuase it's weekend, Korlat seem like the most likely option. That said I wont be distressed if night times out without a lynch. Night people.

[Mockra]

Korlat, on Apr 18 2009, 11:33 PM, said:

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 11:23 PM, said:

Ruse, on Apr 18 2009, 11:13 PM, said:

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 11:06 PM, said:

Then Korlat which seems to be an actual legitimate case. He apparently strawmanned Liosan, got beaten back, then pretended to go to sleep and when Liosan said more against him, he reappeared to defend himself claiming it was his strategy?

And now he's claiming "burn-out" on day 2 after minimum challenge, giving up defending for fear-mongering.

I'm not saying it's impossible the scum is just lurking right now, but his last post is a bit over the top.

OK Korlat seriously, I understand if you feel frustrated at the number of low posters, but seriously WTF, Ruse has a point, your post is over the top. Which means you are either playing for pity, or have gotten sick and tired of the game already. So if anything I at least am starting to get suspicious of you.


However I am looking at the reality of the current situation and I am thinking this is silly, at the rate we going with my vote and the votes of everyone voting atm, we do not have enough votes to lynch you, unless you do in fact feel like obliging us with a self-hammer.

I said I'd hammer, I'm an anarch and quite persuasive, so my vote counts double, that should make it easier. Glad you at least acknowledged the situation which is that it's sad that we can barely scrape together 10 votes with 21 people left. I've played this game face-up like I always do, regardless of what you might think. How'd I know Liosan would come back? I'm just that good, it's not guessing if you are right.

You know, no one has really commented on Ment's rule that 'clan reveal' = modkill.
Now I have to wonder if certain roles get bonuses for finding certain clans.

Also, you are forgetting that we may also have a voter, whose vote doesn't count.

[D'riss]

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 10:58 PM, said:

You know, no one has really commented on Ment's rule that 'clan reveal' = modkill.
Now I have to wonder if certain roles get bonuses for finding certain clans.

Also, you are forgetting that we may also have a voter, whose vote doesn't count.

Hmm, I don't really see any basis for that - we didn't get the clan names of the players who died, for instance. Seems to me the moratorium is there to prevent people from demanding a clan name to go with a reveal, which would make it difficult for those who didn't know much about the game to pull one off.

[Telas]

I'll be in and out from here until the time out. As to lynching the low posters. Korlat, did it never occur to you that some of them might have roles that will HELP our team? Sure its a good place for scum to hide, but the scenario you put forth never happens. Usually its just the opposite. Scum play middle of the pack and push for low posters while they NK high posters.

I agree we need to watch them and make sure they don't slide through to the end, however, its only been a couple of days and this is the weekend. Some people don't have net access and others have lives.

Voe Korlat

For emo-ing out and being a confessed lurker.

[Mockra]

I am not sure I like Rashan. Galain actually made sense and Rash's comments have lost me quite well.
However, Korlat has just revealed what he can do, which means letting him live might mean he gets recruited.

Bah! Korlat, you have to go now, we can't let the cult recruit you now.

Vote: Korlat

And Rash, IGMEOY.

[Korlat]

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 11:58 PM, said:

Korlat, on Apr 18 2009, 11:33 PM, said:

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 11:23 PM, said:

Ruse, on Apr 18 2009, 11:13 PM, said:

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 11:06 PM, said:

Then Korlat which seems to be an actual legitimate case. He apparently strawmanned Liosan, got beaten back, then pretended to go to sleep and when Liosan said more against him, he reappeared to defend himself claiming it was his strategy?

And now he's claiming "burn-out" on day 2 after minimum challenge, giving up defending for fear-mongering.

I'm not saying it's impossible the scum is just lurking right now, but his last post is a bit over the top.

OK Korlat seriously, I understand if you feel frustrated at the number of low posters, but seriously WTF, Ruse has a point, your post is over the top. Which means you are either playing for pity, or have gotten sick and tired of the game already. So if anything I at least am starting to get suspicious of you.


However I am looking at the reality of the current situation and I am thinking this is silly, at the rate we going with my vote and the votes of everyone voting atm, we do not have enough votes to lynch you, unless you do in fact feel like obliging us with a self-hammer.

I said I'd hammer, I'm an anarch and quite persuasive, so my vote counts double, that should make it easier. Glad you at least acknowledged the situation which is that it's sad that we can barely scrape together 10 votes with 21 people left. I've played this game face-up like I always do, regardless of what you might think. How'd I know Liosan would come back? I'm just that good, it's not guessing if you are right.

You know, no one has really commented on Ment's rule that 'clan reveal' = modkill.
Now I have to wonder if certain roles get bonuses for finding certain clans.

Also, you are forgetting that we may also have a voter, whose vote doesn't count.

No, 10+2 = 12 - 1 = lynch. Which why I said 10 and not 9. Yes, I'm that far ahead of you in thinking about the game.

[Gamelon]

Korlat, on Apr 18 2009, 02:33 PM, said:

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 11:23 PM, said:

Ruse, on Apr 18 2009, 11:13 PM, said:

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 11:06 PM, said:

Then Korlat which seems to be an actual legitimate case. He apparently strawmanned Liosan, got beaten back, then pretended to go to sleep and when Liosan said more against him, he reappeared to defend himself claiming it was his strategy?

And now he's claiming "burn-out" on day 2 after minimum challenge, giving up defending for fear-mongering.

I'm not saying it's impossible the scum is just lurking right now, but his last post is a bit over the top.

OK Korlat seriously, I understand if you feel frustrated at the number of low posters, but seriously WTF, Ruse has a point, your post is over the top. Which means you are either playing for pity, or have gotten sick and tired of the game already. So if anything I at least am starting to get suspicious of you.


However I am looking at the reality of the current situation and I am thinking this is silly, at the rate we going with my vote and the votes of everyone voting atm, we do not have enough votes to lynch you, unless you do in fact feel like obliging us with a self-hammer.

I said I'd hammer, I'm an anarch and quite persuasive, so my vote counts double, that should make it easier. Glad you at least acknowledged the situation which is that it's sad that we can barely scrape together 10 votes with 21 people left. I've played this game face-up like I always do, regardless of what you might think. How'd I know Liosan would come back? I'm just that good, it's not guessing if you are right.

Oh please. I didn't vote because I didn't see enough into it yet and put it down to ego wars, and now you go about self lynching just to prove your eff-ing point?
As for the low poster lament: I think I'll stay out of the fucking next game and the ten after it because you know, I've got a job and a fucking social life (though it doesn't involve a lot of fucking lately ) and therefore can't reach up to your standards. I think I'll hardly be the only one, and then next we get the complaints that we can't get players for our games. Nice fucking circle.

Thank you for reading.

/rant off.

[Telas]

Korlat, on Apr 18 2009, 06:08 PM, said:

No, 10+2 = 12 - 1 = lynch. Which why I said 10 and not 9. Yes, I'm that far ahead of you in thinking about the game.

Imaginary rep for the insult. See had you done that insead of become all "go ahead, my heart is raped by pain that is life", Some of us might have been swayed by your master ninja skills.

[Mockra]

D'riss, on Apr 19 2009, 12:04 AM, said:

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 10:58 PM, said:

You know, no one has really commented on Ment's rule that 'clan reveal' = modkill.
Now I have to wonder if certain roles get bonuses for finding certain clans.

Also, you are forgetting that we may also have a voter, whose vote doesn't count.

Hmm, I don't really see any basis for that - we didn't get the clan names of the players who died, for instance. Seems to me the moratorium is there to prevent people from demanding a clan name to go with a reveal, which would make it difficult for those who didn't know much about the game to pull one off.

Fair enough, but fake revealing a clan probably wouldn't help you much by the same token.
Anyway, it was just a random thought.

[Telas]

I think, but have no idea if I am right, as I never had anything to do with the story, but I think, that the clans might be related to the faction, thus no revealing.

[Mockra]

Korlat, on Apr 19 2009, 12:08 AM, said:

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 11:58 PM, said:

Korlat, on Apr 18 2009, 11:33 PM, said:

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 11:23 PM, said:

Ruse, on Apr 18 2009, 11:13 PM, said:

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 11:06 PM, said:

Then Korlat which seems to be an actual legitimate case. He apparently strawmanned Liosan, got beaten back, then pretended to go to sleep and when Liosan said more against him, he reappeared to defend himself claiming it was his strategy?

And now he's claiming "burn-out" on day 2 after minimum challenge, giving up defending for fear-mongering.

I'm not saying it's impossible the scum is just lurking right now, but his last post is a bit over the top.

OK Korlat seriously, I understand if you feel frustrated at the number of low posters, but seriously WTF, Ruse has a point, your post is over the top. Which means you are either playing for pity, or have gotten sick and tired of the game already. So if anything I at least am starting to get suspicious of you.


However I am looking at the reality of the current situation and I am thinking this is silly, at the rate we going with my vote and the votes of everyone voting atm, we do not have enough votes to lynch you, unless you do in fact feel like obliging us with a self-hammer.

I said I'd hammer, I'm an anarch and quite persuasive, so my vote counts double, that should make it easier. Glad you at least acknowledged the situation which is that it's sad that we can barely scrape together 10 votes with 21 people left. I've played this game face-up like I always do, regardless of what you might think. How'd I know Liosan would come back? I'm just that good, it's not guessing if you are right.

You know, no one has really commented on Ment's rule that 'clan reveal' = modkill.
Now I have to wonder if certain roles get bonuses for finding certain clans.

Also, you are forgetting that we may also have a voter, whose vote doesn't count.

No, 10+2 = 12 - 1 = lynch. Which why I said 10 and not 9. Yes, I'm that far ahead of you in thinking about the game.

Its really not hard to think ahead of me atm, I am very sleep deprived atm and falling asleep.

So cheers all, going to bed now.

[Korvalain]

Hi guys, ya miss me?

Half-way caught up now, be fully caught up soon

[Fener]

Korlat, on Apr 18 2009, 04:33 PM, said:

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 11:23 PM, said:

Ruse, on Apr 18 2009, 11:13 PM, said:

Mockra, on Apr 18 2009, 11:06 PM, said:

Then Korlat which seems to be an actual legitimate case. He apparently strawmanned Liosan, got beaten back, then pretended to go to sleep and when Liosan said more against him, he reappeared to defend himself claiming it was his strategy?

And now he's claiming "burn-out" on day 2 after minimum challenge, giving up defending for fear-mongering.

I'm not saying it's impossible the scum is just lurking right now, but his last post is a bit over the top.

OK Korlat seriously, I understand if you feel frustrated at the number of low posters, but seriously WTF, Ruse has a point, your post is over the top. Which means you are either playing for pity, or have gotten sick and tired of the game already. So if anything I at least am starting to get suspicious of you.


However I am looking at the reality of the current situation and I am thinking this is silly, at the rate we going with my vote and the votes of everyone voting atm, we do not have enough votes to lynch you, unless you do in fact feel like obliging us with a self-hammer.

I said I'd hammer, I'm an anarch and quite persuasive, so my vote counts double, that should make it easier. Glad you at least acknowledged the situation which is that it's sad that we can barely scrape together 10 votes with 21 people left. I've played this game face-up like I always do, regardless of what you might think. How'd I know Liosan would come back? I'm just that good, it's not guessing if you are right.

Reading up and just caught up to this.

Was Korlat on the Tennes Train? I thought he was...

[Gamelon]

Some speculation on that subject Telas brought up:

Camarilla, Sabath and Anarchs are formed by different clans, they therefore probably have different clans and thus, different themes amongst them.

Baali however are a single clan from what I read, and I guess they work the same.

Now, I'm the unlucky possessor of Vampire, the Masquerade pc-game, and a one-time-read Vampire RPG book, and the way stuff there works, is that every vampire clan has something special that sets them apart from all the others. I assume that is Clan-based. I think it's not against the rules to tell on topic if this goes for you, or not, so if we really want, we can do a check-up.

Secondly, I think the roled ones amongst us have the standard ability stuff (finder, guard, you name it) - and those are probably designed as special abilities. The way Vampire RPG and PC Games work, every clan has 3 different potential ability trees that you can invest in, so maybe abilities are also close to bloodlines.

So, probably, clan + faction are intertwined, but I also think Clan = one standard special thingie. That might be something as powerful as Korlat's double vote, but it might also be that Sixty's clan thingie was that 1 extra vote was required... which is much more a flavour thing and much less a powerful ability like a double vote.

Was Korlat on the train on Sixty?