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Posted 01 April 2009 - 10:01 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Apr 1 2009, 11:58 PM, said:

View PostTapper, on Apr 1 2009, 05:55 PM, said:

Uff, what a cruel set-up, Gem.

And yeah, Kurt was right. I was walking dead, realized it straight away after Meanas' vote. Had fun though, I love the set-up but how you manage to juggle all the powers is beyond me :)
Also some worries on the action points after a few days... they will sky-rocket for some.

That's the idea. :p They can be lynched though. :p The lynch count slowly goes down, too. Tomorrow I think I'll start reducing the lynch counts. :p

aye, I've been going on and on on thread how the lynch is for high power/high cap players, but I typically seem to be typing in hebrew or something, cause nobody ever pays attention to it ;)
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Posted 01 April 2009 - 10:03 PM

For frackens sake! I missed Omtose's early post, and nobody else saw it eaither?!!!! ;) Serious brainfart.

Gah, I'm just adding the fracken point to Omtose too. Meh!

On second thought I really have to take away that last point for Rashan. Bah!

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 09:57 AM

Tapper here, going to post a shedload of PMs.

Tennes-venge:

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Omtose = Obdi.


Lets see if I can get him irritated some more...:snigger:


then corrected into:

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Omtose = Morgy....


Sir Kesso:

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Seems I'm on Team Lurk - just checked the post counts to find that I've made almost 3 times as many posts as the rest of my team combined...probably a good thing actually - they're not going to pick up a ton of heat down there, as long as they get on a few lynch trains they should be fine.


Sir Thursday


Kurt Lord:

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Consider this a spoiler entry, as well):

Well, I think our team is dead in the water, and I probably shouldn't have tried to deflect from Ruse, but ah well ... I'm sure Silanah's pissed at me now, but Fener and Kesso are looking guiltier than I am of defending Ruse, so hopefully they'll take the flak. And, hell, I really do want to take out Gamelon - he strikes me as a strong enough player that I don't want to take a NA shot at him. Lynching him is our only option.

Provisionally:

If Ruse gets lynched:

Kill D'riss

As I suspect he's on Omtose's team, along with Tennes and Kesso.

If, by some miracle, Ruse survives:

Save Ruse

Just to mess with anyone that tries to kill him. If I don't vote for him today, I'm going to have to tomorrow, unless he manages to pull his nuts out of the fire. In any case, I'm hoping he was right about the number of points he has ... a successful Gamelon lynch will give me 8, saving him will give me 11 if Ruse is on the Gamelon lynch (which he'd damned well better be).


Siltalist:

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today has NOT been a good day, RL-wise

and now I come in to see Meanas dead (probably kiled by Omtose) and JA (Ruse) close to a hanging.
I've got no qualms about lynching him--I'll be needing the AP, plus I need to dive under Omtose's radar.

i'll be highly amused if he turns out to be another Peter.
Bah, totall lurkage, ftw!

also, Korv= the Dude
Galai = Hoosier Daddy.

Provisional: NK KORVALAIN

we all know why.

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:07 AM

Gamelon with long post incl. mechanics questions:

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You are Peter Petrelli
Action Points: 4
You Action List:
Save - saves a target from harm.
Empathic mimicry - copies ability from successful save target - if target has more than one ability, the latest used by target is copied. If target doesn't have an ability, nothing happens.
Has initially 1 save each night - for every successful save an ability can be copied - for every copied ability one more save is gained. Starts with Flight, Telekinesis, Telepathy, Invisibility, Precognitive dreaming and Space-time manipulation. Save + 1 other ability each night.

Having never watched the show, can you tell me what the powers do in game....just incase I survive tomorrow ;)

I'd be happy to.

Invisibility - boosts your action points by 3 when used.

Flight - boosts your action points temporarily by 5 when used and someone uses an action on you. No boost when you use an ability yourself.

Telekinesis - steals half of targets action points, or 2/3 if points are not dividable by 2.

Precognitive dreaming - gives a deep understanding of events, chose from two options: get the faction of the target or get the total number of action points of the targets faction.

Telepathy2 - reads a targets mind to find out information, choose one of three options: night action of target, the role name of target or Set target to vote for player of your choice the next day.

Space-time manipulation - investigates the targets faction, choose from two options: get all the alts in the targets faction, get all the role names of the targets faction (not actual faction).

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Nice. Thanks I hope I nipped the train on me tonight, before it can begin tomorrow. I'm going to lay low until later tomorrow and hope I get out of this unscaved.

Questions. If you can tell me. One, was my save on fener sucessful(I.E. is thaqt where my 2 new points came from?)

If it was do I gain feners ability?

thx


Vengennes:

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I am a leading the group.... snigger.gif Are you kidding me. People make mistakes and a train develops. In this game people want to be on trains so very few people try to move a train off of its target.

Right now I am trying to figure out how to take Morgy out. Obviously he is a good strong player and if I am to keep my faction alive I need to take out the strong players. I think that it is more important to trim the other factions down more then focus on eliminating specific factions.


Korlat:

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Hmmm
Kill Kess
Telekinesis... Tennes
Any way I can get an update on how many point I have? smile.gif


Tellan:

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No night action


Kaschan:

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Night already? Hope I didnt hold things up -> Fly around

You can put that down as a provisional for me every night, unless I say otherwise.


Target Shadow: I want the role please!

Mockra:

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And yes I know he is a team mate, but right now I am looking for easy pickings tongue.gif
And to say I am a little lost is probably the biggest understatement ever!


Fener is being smart:

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Dear Spoiler Heaven:

Hi Tapper! How the hell can I wait forever to post my case and GL shows up while I'm crafting the post, fucking fuck. I laid the trap for him perfectly to symp, because he is surely going to defend Silanah and BOOM you're tied in buddy, but goddamn I don't want to spring it this soon. His jump on the train away from Ruse is so telling nobody can ignore it, aside from the fact that I already know the answer.


Kurt Lord, today/tonight:

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==

OK, just wanted to say that Gamelon is obviously Ment.

And Dibs hasn't made himself obvious.

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Outside my spoiler entry, I'd like to say that I'm honestly concerned that someone with SH access is leaking info to other players. I mean, OK, fine, I can understand how Ruse and Meanas can be seen as connected. But whoever's playing Omtose just connected me to Ruse-Meanas-Silanah on almost nothing, and I'm starting to get pretty fucking suspicious. If Omtose turns out to be a recent Modcraft player, there's no way I'm going to believe that cheating wasn't involved.

Or maybe I'm just pissed. But seriously, something smells here.

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:09 AM

Silanah:

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In case you're waitnig for it

confirm kill korvalain

damn morgoth, i forgot how good he is at this game... why couldn't he just die last night??? wallbash.gif

fuck, today's gonna be really bad day, gotta write my proposal I expect it'll take all day, and mafia's gonna be a constant distraction/temptation...
hmm, maybe they'll kill me at night... here's hoping.

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:12 AM

Keep posting pm's Tapper, I'm ending night...

Confirmed NA's:

Hood's Path (5) Kill Shadow (2) A
Kessobahn (5) Save Shadow (2) A
Tennes (3) Disable Shadow (2)
D'riss (4) Role of Korlat (4)
Galayn Lord (4) Kill D'riss (4)
Emurlahn (3) Poison Gamelon (4), Shadow(2), Galain (2), Mockra (3), and Tellan(2).
Gamelon (4) save Fener(3) and fly (9)
Rashan (2) make Galayn Lord (4) vote Barghast
Fener (3) All alts of Liosan's faction
Omtose (4) All alts of Shadow's faction (2) A
Silanah (4) Kill Korvalain (4)
Barghast (5) Save Shadow (2), Fly (9) A
Kaschan (3) Fly (8)
Mockra (3) Role name of Shadow (2)
Anomandaris (2) no action.
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:17 AM

those were the unread pms :)

I passed twelve the spoiler password again, he had deleted his pms including the one with the SH password before reading it/ knowing the password ;)
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:18 AM

Tapper, I didn't post much pm's last night, but I read them... <.<

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Note that Emurlahn's doesn't go through - and I've decided he can try again. ;)

Target actions going through:
Hood's Path (5) Kill Shadow (2) Hood's Path are not getting the points since Shadow is saved.
Kessobahn (5) Save Shadow (2) Gets 2 points, gets the teach ability
Omtose (4) All alts of Shadow's faction (2) gets 2 points - and alts of shadow's faction
Barghast (5) Save Shadow (2), Fly (9) gets 2 points, sets his ability to Invisibility

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:22 AM

oki, starting lunchbreak now, should get some more pms up in that time ;)
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:26 AM

Updated Action Point Count

Current Action Points

Alpha Season 1
Peter Petrelli - Sir Thursday --Kessobahn - CAP 7
Matt Parkman - J_Slr --Mockra - CAP 3
Claude Raines - Silencer --Shadow - 2
Noah Bennett - dktorode --Anomandaris - CAP 2
Beta Season 1
Current Sylar - Masterblue --Korlat - CAP 4
Bad Future Sylar - Lisheo --Korvalain - CAP 4
Angela Petrelli - Bent --Telas -SAP 2 Dead Night 1
Alpha Season 2
Super Peter Petrelli - Bubba -- Gamelon - SAP 4
Super Matt Parkman - drinksinbars --Rashan -CAP 3
Hiro Nakamura - Malaese --Fener - CAP 3
Beta Season 2
Powerless Sylar - The Dude --Liosan - CAP 2
Maya - Sixty --Emurlahn - CAP 3
Alpha Season 3 1st Half
Primatech powerless Peter Petrelli - twelve --Meanas -CAP -1 Dead night1
Future Peter Petrelli - Mentalist -- Silanah - CAP 4
Good Future Sylar - Kurt Montandon --Galayn Lord -CAP 4
Primatech Angela Petrelli - Tapper --Ruse - CAP 3 Lynched Day2
Beta Season 3 1st Half
Pinehearst Sylar - Stalker --Hood's Path - CAP 5
Pinehearst Nathan Petrelli - Ace Hunter --Tellan - CAP 2
Pinehearst Arthur Petrelli - morgoth45 --Serc LYNCHED Day1
Alpha Season3 2nd Half
Fugitive Peter Petrelli - Obdigore -Barghast - CAP 7
Fugitive Matt Parkman - bwgan --D'riss - CAP 4
Fugitive Hiro Nakamura - Morgoth --Omtose - CAP 6

Beta Season 3 2nd half
Noah Bennett - Testing 1...2...... --Galain - CAP 2
Danko Then Hunter - Vengeance --Tennes - CAP 3
Nathan Petrelli - alt146 --Kaschan - CAP 3

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:28 AM

Gamelon just sent an action haha, it doesn't go through either way. ;)
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:29 AM

Stuff is going to get chaotic as I'll post older stuff in here, but anyway...

starting with my own pm early in the day yesterday.

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I'm digging my own grave here.

Here lies Tapper. Idiot savant.

Still, they all think they can work it out and get stuff done as in a regular merc game. It is suicide for me to reveal in a regular merc game. In this one, however, it isn't. If someone of your own faction stumbles repeatedly, he's done for and useless. You need to not trust people, but use them, and they fail to see it.


Liosan:

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Congrats you receive +1 action point for being on the successful lynch train.


This is hilarious...they are all on thread worrying about Sylar, while Sylar is sitting in the corner with his 1AP epeen hoping no one looks his way and says "Boo!!" because starting with 0 AP he is pretty much boned if he ever gets targeted for a NA...

Guess I just have to get on as many lynches as I can and hope Adam/Emur has some cool power...otherwise our little 2 man faction is looking at an uphill climb.


Kaschan, maybe thinking jester:

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There's no finders right? Cos if someone wanted to get lynched, doing what Ruse just did is a good way to do it.


Galain:

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Noah Bennett
Action Points: 1
You Action List:
Disable - disables targets action points for the night.

Doesn't the fact I have one action point mean it's impossible for me to have double?

Unless some people ave 0 I suppose.

You can gain points by being on lynch trains.


Does this mean i'm already behind some players cause they were on the last one?

Grr, fail previous player ;)


Bwgan/driss, who's playying a good game:

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Or it might be provisional, I can't tell the difference tbh. Anywho, if Ruse gets lynched then please can I have Korlat's role, if Ruse doesn't die, can you make him vote with me?

I will almost certainly send in another message once night starts, but I know the risks if I don't....I just hope I get a na to work. I am loving this game sooo much. I will have to type faster though, everyone keeps saying what I was going to say, which makes me sound really stupid...so I keep deleting my posts before I even post...I'll shut up now. I know you are busy...but I'm so excited thumbsup.gif


Mockra:

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Ok well it would appear that the person I decided would be worth trying to find on, happened to be a powerhouse of some sort! FUCK!

Oh well.... better luck tonight.

btw, are reveals the only way to lose action points?


Korv:

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You are Future Sylar
Action Points: 3
Your Action List:
Kill - Kills target and steals abilities - 1 kill with steal each night
Telekinesis - steals half of targets action points, or 2/3 if points are not dividable by 2.
Every night you can use Kill + 1 other action.


Sorry about my previous inactivity, my ,other actually is moving. Damn confusing situation.
Right.
Telekinesis on Rashan.
Kill Barghast.

I'm future Sylar, btw. I think I should win this game now, for just having such a sheer awesome character.

...

That was not a joke.
Barghast rubbed me the wrong way, and I think something about Ruse's playstyle smells more correct that Barghast, even if he ain't on my team.
Rashan? Just felt like it.
Ruse is morgy btw.

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:39 AM

Tapper (me), planning how things should go, then doing it differently.

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I am, of course, going to reveal as Angela Petrelli, finder.
With 2 ap. And saying Gamelon had more.

That and Korv's support are going to be enough to save Silanah as those two will become targets, as neither peter nor me are a vig/killer i hope he is.


Fener:

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Alts in Meanas faction besides Meanas:
Silanah
Galayn Lord
Ruse


Did I get an AP point? or was he at 1AP and revealed down to zero...ridiculous

STD:

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Just wondering if you could clarify what constitutes a reveal that loses you an AP. Is it sufficient to declare your role, or do you have to reveal your character name too?


Sir Thursday


me, post reveal:

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Seems there's hope at the end of the tunnel after all as they buy the reveal and the little lies in it ;)

btw, Twelve would like you to submit the password to spoiler heaven to his main account, he deleted the stuff in there including your pm with the password.

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:40 AM

me, titled fake reveals:

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..and reveals in general, are so much fun. I'm juggling lies, truth, and my game life here and I'm having a blast. nice distancing there by GL, too, although I think you may have had an angry PM or two from both him and Silanah smile.gif.

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:47 AM

Korv:

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It's a less complex set up than before, imo. This seems to my eyes to be a merc, with last team standing, instead of insane win conditions.

Also, Ruse, sorry bout lynching you. I didn't really have much choice, I need your AP, because like you pointed out, Peter is gonna be a dangerous fellow after some time, and you know, being Sylar and all, I assume I have one of the best chances of defeating him.
Lastly, confirm my actions that I sent in earlier. Thanks.
Also, one question, do I lose my telekinesis when I kill, or do I just get an EXTRA power? tongue.gif


Kesso with a prov:

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Provisional on Shadow, please. Need to make sure he doesn't get targetted tonight for being the only player not to be on any of the lynch trains.

Sir Thursday


Emur, with long post:

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I was originally going to post this in-thread only to realize it would be odd if 3 of the guys I mentioned with NKed. D:

Btw I was just looking through the low posters, and our bottom five are:
Korvalain 10
Anomandaris 8
Tellan 6
Mockra 5
Shadow 4

Korvalain--been nowhere for day/night one, shows up day two and bitches a lot (from what I saw) and votes Ruse purely for an AP instead of opposing (although at that point it was a lost cause, so I suppose there's not much of an argument there)

Anomandaris--I don't remember anything this guy's posted to be honest. But a review of his posts indicated that he voted Serc at the beginning for his randomness with Gamelon and then disappeared. Showed up during night, but hasn't posted all day/lurked.

Tellan--has complained about spam (3->10 pages, most of which at that point was genuine content), admitted lurking, which is generally considered scummy, and somehow decided a mention that post padding was irrelevant in a merc game was a heavy reaction? Looks like someone trying to lay low or coast through to me.

Mockra--Internet problems. Fair enough, it happens.

Shadow--Huh? Where'd this guy go? Practically a negative amount of contribution.

Emur, called: the clones

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It seems possible that teams are based off clone + clone...maybe there's an odd man out with 25 players, but hmm. If that's the case, hopefully Liosan picks a different 5 targets tonight/whenever he uses it. D:


Morgoth, after whining for an action point:

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For fracken sake's people, shout at me when I miss something! :zanth:

Yeah you get the +1 AP, it's officially added. Gaaaah! :Crash:


I did, in thread when I got online and saw your vote count ;) ..

Still, it would be nice to get a final vote count from you. We don't know how many are needed for each vote and it's quite necessary to know who got counted into the train after all..

so then, this gives me 5 points yes? excellent..

Tell Tapper I am pleased

I'm going to reply to that :)
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:50 AM

Most of the stuff they're asking are stuff they aren't supposed to know, haha. Man, Tapper, I'm so happy to have you here, I'm going crazy from all the point counting - 25 players woot! Good idea! Not! ;) :)
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:53 AM

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Well, I can't really wait around for it, so I don't think Shadow was on the train today, and I'm quite sure he was not on yesterday's, so chances are he's less than 3.. 5 points is such a useless number ;) ..

So, investigate Shadow. Look for alts in his faction.

I don't think Korlat has been on either as well, but how he blatantly revealed that on thread makes me suspect he's a higher player..

Galain is good too I guess.. And Tellan I could go for again but better to learn more than just safe it I think.

Rashan perhaps? I can't make heads or tails with DiBs thi sgame.. No, go for shadow.

Morgy again.
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:54 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Apr 2 2009, 06:50 AM, said:

Most of the stuff they're asking are stuff they aren't supposed to know, haha. Man, Tapper, I'm so happy to have you here, I'm going crazy from all the point counting - 25 players woot! Good idea! Not! :) :p

happy to lend a hand. I thought 20 or 22 was too much in the Rome game already, and I didn't have an action point mechanism ;) now I only write stuff for 18 or less... although the highlander game can go with 20+ as well.
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:57 AM

Sir Kessoday:

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It was short, but overall productive. By championing Tapper's cause, I think I managed to push Gamelon into the spotlight without making myself too obvious (might have got people believing I was on Ruse's team, which is unfortunate but not the end of the world), as well as flushing out Galayn Lord as a member of Ruse's team (unless he was doing the same thing as me :)).

I'm trying to get a sense for the teams and distribution, but it's tricky. The problem is, I don't know the exact number of teams...4-6, I'd imagine, possibly with some unaligned around? Thing is, all the lynches have turned up Petrellis, which means I don't know as much about the roles as I'd like. I got the feeling that Gamelon and possibly D'riss were on Serc's team...thinking Gamelon might be Maury.

Angela Petrelli would probably have HRG on her team, so I'll tag Korvalain and Galayn Lord as having a high probability of being him. I can see HRG no action points, but killing his target if that target is successfully targetted by someone with an ability. Would kind of make sense in the setup and would explain that line about your target possibly being dead in the rules. Plus it fits with his "One of them, one of us" philosophy.

Just going to hope that Tennes doesn't start raking up the low posters too much - Team Lurk is doing a hell of a job of staying unnoticed so far ;)!


Sir Thursday


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For Gamelon to read in spoiler heaven - Shut UP!!!! how hard is it to catch my clue that I'm going to make a case and just go fricken quiet. You ruined an easy case on GL now I have to make the hard one on Silanah and I'm way more credible than you at this point. Jeezz man help a brother out.

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:58 AM

oki, that should be all that don't have NAs in them... I've got to go back to work, got a meeting in 2 hours, need to prepare for that and have a project to manage, as well, on which I am HOPELESSLY behind.

I'll be back at 16.00 CET or so.

Cheers,

Tapper

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