[Path-Shaper]

Fener:

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Confirmed Night Action - Shadow - option to get all Role names in that faction.

Fener with a solution to repair the game (rashan suggested much the same thing):

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Here is a better solution to fix the game. You have to hide all further AP gains from the players. You say there may or may not be a reward for lynching. Change it back to the way it was, keep it how it is now or change it to something else it doesn't matter. Just never report AP gains to players from this point on from lynches or from night actions and the situation should resolve into a normal game

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Mockra coming up with the same idea as I have, only without paying a certain amount, but automatic deduction (that's going to be problematic for the people who have 2 actions at night):

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OK cool I actually have time atm.

First off, glad to see that game survived past day 3 this time .

Second, I like the rule changes, it means players have to actually start playing properly as opposed to jumping on a speed lynch and grabbing points. Fuck knows, I have tried to accumulate APs left right and centre and none of my NAs are working and I feel that most players are probably having similar problems.

So with the change in system, it becomes a merc game, with the added bonus of players needing to hunt during the day for the overpowered players with all the APs. So I hope it works.


Thirdly, I know my idea is a little late, but I was thinking about these APs, why not give everyone an AP at end of day and then when you perform an NA you burn off the number of APs = the target has, but only if you succeed.

Example:
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End of day:

I have 5 + 2 for lynch + 1 for day end. = 8
I target D'riss who has lets say 5 APs + 1 for day end = 6

I successfully learn about D'riss but am reduced to 2 Aps, i,e you have to take a risk when performing a action.

However:
Should D'riss have more Aps than me, my action fails and I lose the AP I gained come night start.

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Someone has probably already sent a similar idea, but its my 5 cents worth

Omtose with a NA:

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that came kind of sudden. Well, Investigate Liosan then, as he's no longer getting any points. I want alts of his faction.

If Liosan is the hammer, investigate Tellan.

[Path-Shaper]

Allright thanks Tapper, I think your idea is great, it would also mean people need to be on the right places in the lynch trains more, since they desperately need those points, but it would also make more actions go through. I think I'm gonna go with the version where you lose AP only when an action succeeds.
Tricky thing with this system is of course that it's not tested. Problem with it though is that people only actually gain points by lynch trains. I think maybe we need another source of AP for it to work. Thoughts?

[Path-Shaper]

Galain:

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Give barghast a try.

I'm not hopeful though, as I started low, and wasn't able to gain more as well as other players possibly could.

[Knucklehead]

Oh my God, so many people still alive. Damn. I'm never gonna get another game. ModCraft is stalled because of lack of signups [/advertise] and this game will never end. Argh, I am so bored.

[Tapper]

Path-Shaper, on Apr 4 2009, 04:40 PM, said:

Allright thanks Tapper, I think your idea is great, it would also mean people need to be on the right places in the lynch trains more, since they desperately need those points, but it would also make more actions go through. I think I'm gonna go with the version where you lose AP only when an action succeeds.
Tricky thing with this system is of course that it's not tested. Problem with it though is that people only actually gain points by lynch trains. I think maybe we need another source of AP for it to work. Thoughts?

True that... hmmm.

Take no action at night, and you gain 2 points?

It should be equal to or more than what people gain from lynches, I'd say.

[Path-Shaper]

Hmm, maybe that would work. Do you think the changes should be in effect for tonight or next night?

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 04 April 2009 - 10:12 PM

[Tapper]

Path-Shaper, on Apr 5 2009, 12:11 AM, said:

Hmm, maybe that would work. Do you think the changes should be in effect for tonight or next night?

Next night, seeing how everyone has turned in their provisionals already, I'd say, but your call .

[Path-Shaper]

Yeah, I agree. Besides, I don't want to rush into anything.

[Path-Shaper]

Allright, I won't be here when the day times out - if everyone haven't committed or changed their vote at that time, I think we should suspend day timer until they have. So day will end when everyone on the train has decided what to do. It looks like it will be a GL lynch - 16 votes - that means the 5 first and the 16th voter gets +2 AP.

Tapper, if you aren't around at that time, that's okay, I can just end day when I come back. Blame the weekends. Or Brood. Whatever suits the situation.

[Tapper]

Day has ended, I'll do the APs somewhere later this afternoon, have to go out now.

[Path-Shaper]

Updated Action Point Count

Current Action Points

Alpha Season 1
Peter Petrelli - Sir Thursday --Kessobahn - CAP 13
Matt Parkman - J_Slr --Mockra - CAP 7
Claude Raines - Silencer --Shadow - 2
Noah Bennett - dktorode --Anomandaris - CAP 6
Beta Season 1
Current Sylar - Masterblue --Korlat - CAP 6
Bad Future Sylar - Lisheo --Korvalain - CAP 8
Angela Petrelli - Bent --Telas -SAP 2 Dead Night 1
Alpha Season 2
Super Peter Petrelli - Bubba -- Gamelon - SAP 4 Lynched day 3
Super Matt Parkman - drinksinbars --Rashan -CAP 7
Hiro Nakamura - Malaese --Fener - CAP 7
Beta Season 2
Powerless Sylar - The Dude --Liosan - CAP 4
Maya - Sixty --Emurlahn - CAP 5
Alpha Season 3 1st Half
Primatech powerless Peter Petrelli - twelve --Meanas -CAP -1 Dead night1
Future Peter Petrelli - Mentalist -- Silanah - CAP 6
Good Future Sylar - Kurt Montandon --Galayn Lord -CAP 6 lynched day 4
Primatech Angela Petrelli - Tapper --Ruse - CAP 3 Lynched Day2
Beta Season 3 1st Half
Pinehearst Sylar - Stalker --Hood's Path - CAP 7
Pinehearst Nathan Petrelli - Ace Hunter --Tellan - CAP 4
Pinehearst Arthur Petrelli - morgoth45 --Serc LYNCHED Day1
Alpha Season3 2nd Half
Fugitive Peter Petrelli - Obdigore -Barghast - CAP 11
Fugitive Matt Parkman - bwgan --D'riss - CAP 8
Fugitive Hiro Nakamura - Morgoth --Omtose - CAP 8

Beta Season 3 2nd half
Noah Bennett - Grief --Galain - CAP 4
Danko Then Hunter - Vengeance --Tennes - CAP 5
Nathan Petrelli - alt146 --Kaschan - CAP 5

[Path-Shaper]

People who get the lynch AP's: Korlat, D'riss, Rashan, Mockra, Anomandaris and Korvalain (Hammer).

Both Ano and Korv is gone for the weekend, so I'm assuming they want to stay on the train. Points Sent.

[Kurt Montandon]

I should've been at 8 APs, but I'm not sure if that would have made a difference in the lynch.

Can't believe I chose the one damned person on Night 3 who was Saved ... ah well.

[Path-Shaper]

Catching up on pm's-

Silanah:

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will revealing how many APs I had at the start cost me points?

because i've thought of a really nice rant and when I com back home trashed out of my mind (ETA: 5-6 hours) I intend to try towrite it out.

I'm gonna reveal that I'm the last of my team and also that Morgoth must be one of the power players b/c I faied to kill him night 1.
Then I'll reveal my team (possibly) and let everyone know that they've got exaclty one team out of at least 4.

then i'll let them know that I have really low points hoping that the healers will take advantage of a chance to score some APs off me

anyhow, now I''m off to get wasted. If I don't hear fropm you by the tie I'm back, I'll try it anyways,
fuckers have been chasing me all game long, the least I can do is make the game seem completely broken in return,

*apologies in advance to gem.*

Only revealing how many points you started with doesn't constitute a reveal, but adding the state of your team makes it a reveal. But you do know that you aren't really the last of your team right?

*checks faction list*

I wil be tomorrow.
and with Morgoth howling for my blood, I won't last long

so I'll make sure to make things difficult for them while I'm alive.

now if GL CFs as Arthur, i'll be ready to drop the mindfuck bomb.

Fener:

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Silanah has to be Morgoth, I've read enough of the old games and fuck people give her a lot of respect.

Omtose is a finder or scary good and putting people together, but no he's a finder for sure.

GL

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While it's nice there's a very slim outside shot I won't get lynched, I do think my odds would be somewhat improved if Silanah wouldn't, you know, post for a while.

And when I do get lynched, I look forward to finding out just how the hell Shadow, who has picked up no points from lynches, managed to survive my Kill. Point farming a low-ranker, probably (Find on someone, get a result, then keep Finding them because you know it'll keep working ... I should've Saved Silanah or something Night One, to see if it would go through).


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Kesso

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Can't believe I gave Morgoth that info...what I said in thread was true, it didn't even register that the two names he had thrown out were members of my faction, I just saw read when he insinuated we were in the same faction. How the hell did he figure out I was on Team Lurk? I haven't said much about them, but then I haven't said much about half the other players too.


Sir Thursday

Otherwise only actions.

[Path-Shaper]

Updated Actions: - successful active actions in green. Successful passive actions in blue.
Emurlahn(5): no action.
Tennes (5) Kill Korvalain (8)
Barghast (9) Save D'riss (8), be invisible (11) --
Silanah (6) Kill Shadow (5)
Mockra (7) Korvalain's role name (8)
D'riss (8) Rashan's night action (7)
Shadow(2) use Invis ->(5)
Omtose (8) All alts of Liosan's faction (4)
Kaschan (5) Flight -> (10)
Rashan (7) make shadow (5) vote Omtose
Korlat (6) No action
Kessobahn (13) Save on Shadow(5) again. Give Anomandaris (6)a Kill power.
Galain (4) Disable D'riss (9)
Fener (7) Shadow (5) - option to get all Role names in that faction.
Hood's Path (7)
Korvalain (8)
Tellan (4)
Anomandaris (6)

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 05 April 2009 - 09:44 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Man I so want the changes...next night is gonna be more eventful and interesting, but also more work.

Omtose +4 AP
Kessobahn +5 Ap & + 6 AP

They're becoming very powerful.

Writing scene and starting day 5. (I think it's day 5...it's going so fast...)

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 05 April 2009 - 09:48 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on Apr 5 2009, 05:46 PM, said:

Man I so want the changes...next night is gonna be more eventful and interesting, but also more work.

Omtose +4 AP
Kessobahn +5 Ap & + 6 AP

They're becoming very powerful.

Writing scene and starting day 5. (I think it's day 5...it's going so fast...)

Kesso is very much the powergamer... he's been looking at ways to skyrocket his AP. - Tapper

Have you posted the changed stuff?

[Path-Shaper]

Sir Kesso:

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Well, we're up to 5 on Morgy...but will we get any more once people don't have the AP incentive to go with? Could really use a vote from Shadow right now - that would set things in motion and hopefully convince others to follow. At this point I suspect Mockra and Anomandaris jumping on the train would look rather suspicious, unfortunately .


Sir Thursday

[Path-Shaper]

Korlat

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Congrats you get +2 AP for the lynch.

Imo the lynch aps should be changed again..
Something like the first gets aps and 4 randomly generated numbers are other spots on the train that get numbers.. that way we don't get factions gaining mass aps as they all vote on the same train.
It also would lead to discussion instead of trying to hit that last vote or voting for whoever to get that first vote.

I can think of a number of ways that you are wrong. Well, not completely wrong...but wrong.

Fuck it.. im screwed this game as my time zone doesn't really allow me to get in the first 5 votes of a train.
Now im going to be seen as deflecting the Omtose lynch and be more fucked over -.-
At least let me have 1 ap a night for no action Otherwise im sure this game will be very long -.-

I'm starting to think that people should run their own game with AP sometime soon. Opinions are welcome, of course, but moan, moan, moan and no constructive stuff or a lot of input and just screaming 'I'm screeeeeeeewed' does give little incentive to the player to play his best game. Which is what they need.

Tapper

In other news, I am exceptionally grumpy this morning.

[Path-Shaper]

Tellan:

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Hi, sorry to ask this so late in the game, but is my action a one shot power, or multiple times?
Thanks

as far as I can see, you can use it every night. There's no maximum in your number of uses and it doesn't say once per game.

Tapper