[Obdigore]

First non-company hands on experiences are up on Gamespot, Gamespy and IGN.

x3 frags is gone.

2 attachements per weapon, new weapon attachement is heartbeat monitor. UAV jammer perk has become cold blooded, which also makes you immune to the heartbeat monitor.

New kill streaks (I assume you set them per class) are ok. Apparently the SCAR-H is an upgraded version of the M16, which is BOO!

Pistol slot is now Pistol/Autopistol/Shotgun slot. You can silence shotguns...

Riot Shield is a big change, everyone is saying it is going be OP, but you can't shoot/knife while you have the shield in out... so good teams that can use tactics will succeed while terribad nub tubers that run around like idiots will get destroyed.

Symtex is a good addition. I hope they put in silencers for at least one of the sniper rifles.

The couple of new maps they tried look pretty cool.

Upgradeable perks! Apparently when you get 1k kills while using a certain perk, it is upgraded.
For example sleight of hand (faster reload) also allows you to look down (aim instead of hip fire) faster after it is upgraded.

Scavenger Perk should be cool, especially if it reloads your utility (nade/symtex/throwing knives) slot.

Yes, I said Throwing Knives. 1 hit kills, no UAV noise...

One of the new Killstreak bonuses is Anti-UAV. Predator (guided missile). AC-130 (you open a laptop and control the ac-130 belly turret gun, you are vulnerable while you have the laptop open, the AC-130 can be shot down, but it also highlights friendlies in green and enemies in red while in the black-and-white view.) Supply drops, which can be ammo or any killstreak bonus in the game, but it can be opened by anyone on any team.

Hopefully they toned down the accuracy of some assault rifles at long range (M16 comes to mind), I'm not sure if they removed juggs or not.

Some tactics I can see:
Main weapon with silencer+reddot. Alt is shotgun with heartbeat scanner, keep switching to alt to check out stuff around you before you move around in S&D.

They added a new S&D type game. 2 bomb sites, there are respawns and the attacking team has a certain amount of time to blow up one. Once it is blown up their time is extended to blow up the other... seems pretty cool. They also added a Standard 2-flag CTF and 1-Flag CTV games.

Anyone else think this is going to be amazing?

[Silencer]

YES.

Here's the deal though. Knives = plasma grenades from Halo. Semtex = spike grenades from Halo 3. That's the only reason they added those in. Cool as they are, it's kind of sad when you realise the parallel.

WTF is up with the ability to suppress shotguns? The fuck is wrong with them? Next thing you know they'll be adding a suppressor for the .50 cal!

Oh, don't forget the addition of sentry guns (Aliens, anyone? XD), should be neat.

The most ridiculous thing is having Brazilian terrorists wielding P90s and FN2000's. XD

Still, this game is gonna RULE. The SCAR won't be 'toned up' compared to MW, only in RL, and compared to the M16 in MW2.

If they're going to have any sniper with a suppressor it'll probably be the Mk14 Mod 0 EBR...

Two attachments per weapon is cool.

Oh, and accuracy of rifles is pretty fair in MW, the average range is like 400m in RL, most maps don't have that much distance in a straight line.

The new maps are supposed to be more varied in terms of height and stuff - I can't wait, because I love sniping...OH, that's the other new 'nade: you can drop a flare that becomes your next spawn point. So if you've got a good spot drop one next to you and that's where you spawn. BUT it uses up all your slots, so you only get one and no other 'nades...I think.

GAH. SO EXCITED.

[Stalker]

YYYEEEEESSSSWSSSSSSS!!!!!

Totally watched all the vids the other day when they first got put up. Gonna be sick!

Saw that snipers can be suppressed (not sure if this is all or just some, but it is happening) along with the shottys. So my sniping wish will finally come true,
being able to pop UAV jammer, with a silencer, and a shotty backup. Watch yourselves world.

Anyway, the limited edition console looked pretty cool too- 250GB elite with a special design, along with 2 controllers, and a copy of MW2, for $400. If I needed an upgrade that would be the time.
But I'm set for now. Considered the Prestige edition, but I decided that I would save the extra $90 for another game like Dragon Age. Picking up the Hardened Edition for the arcade token and art book.

[Silencer]

Seriously, you cannot suppress something like the M82 - it DOES NOT WORK. As I said, maybe the EBR, but that's it...SOOOO EXCITED.

[Stalker]

That would be cool as hell though. Incredibly unlikely but would be fun to have (maybe as a 10th prestige perk for going up the system? Here hoping lol).

but the article where I read all this is HERE. They are just talking about multiplayer from the hands on.

[Aptorian]

I'm in no way as hardcore about this game as you people seem to be, but I have to say those new features sound down right AWESOME! I like the idea of the riot shields and the moveable turrets the most. It will make moving on the map much more interesting.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Hmmm. I'm not a huge fan of shooters in general, but this looks interesting.

[cerveza_fiesta]

buying this on release day or as close to it as I can get for sure.

Looks awesome. I like the upgradeable perk thing a lot.

Also agree that suppressing snipe rifles is fucktarded.

[Stalker]

Yeah I preordered it last night off amazon, hoping they get release day delivery (which is what I chose).

Gonna be nice to have, and it comes at the perfect date because I have a 4 tests and 2 papers due in the next weeks before its release,
so once its out I won't have to do massive work for another few weeks heh.

[Aleksandrov]

So jumping into the fray here, but who really feels that Infinity Ward dropped the ball on the PC version of this game?

I mean the PC version is overpriced on what you would normally pay for (Activision even acknowledges this obviously) a game like this. We payed normal for Fallout 3, BioShock and a dozen more games with a lot of replay value and the like. They've got a cash cow here and they're willing to milk it.

Also apparently the PC version will get no dedicated servers, mods or matchmaking that the consoles are getting.

Not to mention the lack of Hardened etc (Like that bothers anyone.)

(The military buff in me hates what weapons and the types they are introducing though. Seriously Brazilian militia with PP2000s and FAMAs rifles which the French government doesn't sell out to other nations besides the Legion while the Russian Ultranationalists/Spetznaz are STILL using AK47s and not AK74s or AK101s.... I could rant on.)

Aside from all that gripes, game still looks ****win, definitely will buy for Christmas.

[cerveza_fiesta]

not long til it comes out now!!!

Pretty stoked.

[Jusentantaka]

Aleksandrov, on 18 October 2009 - 09:16 AM, said:

(The military buff in me hates what weapons and the types they are introducing though. Seriously Brazilian militia with PP2000s and FAMAs rifles which the French government doesn't sell out to other nations besides the Legion while the Russian Ultranationalists/Spetznaz are STILL using AK47s and not AK74s or AK101s.... I could rant on.)

terrorists dont exactly run into your local gun shoppe to buy guns, they get them black market - and every military in the world has weapons disappear sometime or another.

and on a nerd note, the AK 101 is only in limited use by the russians

BUT! apart from stupid throwing knives and nonsense, game looks great.

[Stalker]

yeah 1 week and 1 day! Can't wait.

On a semi-related note: throwing knives FTW. Ever seen Starship Troopers? Yeah, well can't press the button to nuke with a KNIFE stuck in your hand!
Also I'm learning how to throw knives now. Is awesome.

[Jusentantaka]

Stalker, on 02 November 2009 - 05:30 PM, said:

yeah 1 week and 1 day! Can't wait.

On a semi-related note: throwing knives FTW. Ever seen Starship Troopers? Yeah, well can't press the button to nuke with a KNIFE stuck in your hand!
Also I'm learning how to throw knives now. Is awesome.

starship troopers FTW.

But I forsee MP being full of stupid people complaining about knives with their broken staticy-ass mics about them for at least the first couple weeks.

[cerveza_fiesta]

is the throwing knife supposed to be a 1 shot kill?

Cos that's lameass.

THat was probably mentioned earlier, but I'm to lazy to read back thru this huge thread.

As long as nobody figures out how to "fly" or hack anything right away I won't complain. Taking advantage of game glitches like that can really ruin it for honest players in a hurry.

[Obdigore]

I believe that throwing knives are one shot kills, yes. But so is a m16 with stopping power, I can kill people with a silenced P90 without them knowing what is happening.

At the close range I assume they need to be, good luck getting that close without sneaking up on them.

Ran into a guy yesterday in shipment that figured out how to make himself invincible. I was quite peeved. Reported him rather quickly.

[Jusentantaka]

Obdigore, on 02 November 2009 - 08:07 PM, said:

I can kill people with a silenced P90 without them knowing what is happening.

Did they gimp that gun with a patch I haven't downloaded yet? Cause even a drunk five year old could get a good score running around with that gun.

[Silencer]

Well, that's because the P90 is the most advanced sub machine gun in the world. Firing at 900 rounds per minute, people tend to expect the thing to empty it's mag faster than other weapons. In reality, it doesn't. Due to the 50 rounds it carries, of custom-designed FN calibre, it actually takes 1/3 of a second longer than a M16 to empty it's mag.
30 rounds at 600rpm = 3 seconds
50 rounds at 900rmp = 3.333333333...seconds

And an M4 fires even faster than an M16, but retains the same 30 round magazine. Admittedly, larger calibre than the P90, but calibre is fairly irrelevant when small pieces of metal moving at 3 times the speed of sound are concerned.

Really, the only difference in these weapons should be their range, and in most of the CoD4 maps we aren't talking about significant distances ('cept for a few, ofc), and both SMG's and assault rifles would be highly accurate and deadly in these scenarios.

>.>

*flees*

[Stalker]

yeah, I'm sure that knives are a one-shot kill deal.

Also P-90 with silencer is so fun. People get pissed, like when I've played on shipment I've recieved bad messages from people who can't get me. It's funny. But no patches for it, perhaps it will be a little dulled down in the sequel.

edit: xpost w/ fleeing Silencer. Though I'm not sure why he is running, unless it because of gun knowledge FU hehe.
@ Cerveza and Jusentantaka- you guys console gamers?

This post has been edited by Stalker: 02 November 2009 - 08:37 PM

[Aleksandrov]

Jusentantaka, on 02 November 2009 - 04:58 PM, said:

Aleksandrov, on 18 October 2009 - 09:16 AM, said:

(The military buff in me hates what weapons and the types they are introducing though. Seriously Brazilian militia with PP2000s and FAMAs rifles which the French government doesn't sell out to other nations besides the Legion while the Russian Ultranationalists/Spetznaz are STILL using AK47s and not AK74s or AK101s.... I could rant on.)

terrorists dont exactly run into your local gun shoppe to buy guns, they get them black market - and every military in the world has weapons disappear sometime or another.

and on a nerd note, the AK 101 is only in limited use by the russians

BUT! apart from stupid throwing knives and nonsense, game looks great.

FAMAS and P2000 are in limited supply only, they usually only ship on-demand. I'm curious to see how and why Brazillian MILITIA would get the funds to land their hands on these weapons. If they had the dole, they'd go with ARs and AKs rather than the 10x more expensive stocks on the black market. Sure you'd have military weapons disappear, but they would be in way less quantity than buying the "legal" ARs. You don't find thugs carrying around $5,000 weapons for the most basic footsoldiers.

101 is in limited supply, but 74 is widespread. It's standardised practice is use 5.45 rather than 7.62.

EDI:T 45x rather than 54x

This post has been edited by Aleksandrov: 02 November 2009 - 09:04 PM