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Mafia 39 - A masked affair When Seguleh Attack!!

#1501 User is offline   Galayn Lord 

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:04 PM

View PostAmpelas, on Feb 12 2009, 10:57 PM, said:

Ok, after trawling through the spam of day 1 for like 15 mins, I have almost lost the will to live and still failed to find when GL voted for Galain or what happened after that. There doesn't seem to be too much of a link between GL voting Galain and others jumping on.

However, I do still have a feeling that GL is being a bit too helpful and is now kind of driving the board with Galain Korlat and Kaschan gone.



lol, you're gonna accuse me of being a prolific poster now?
lol, today's my day off. I have time to post.

When I have time, I post a lot.

I try not to post spam though.

if you want it, my vote for Galain was on page 5 or 6, it was my first or second post in the game.
it went liek this :

me said:

Galain said:

Proper case coming up


Proper case on day 1? Blasphemy! vote Galain


edited 4 times to finally get eh quote name tags right.

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#1502 User is offline   Tennes 

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:08 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 10:00 PM, said:

View PostTennes, on Feb 12 2009, 10:53 PM, said:

Making cases on people = encouraging people to vote. You've no more encouraged people to vote than I have.

Can you please anwser this: What have you accused me of that you could not yourself be guilty of?


disagree with the underlined part.
encouraging people to vote = pointing out individuals and saying "vote X, or we'll assume you're X's symp"
making case = saying, "I think we should vote X, here's my reasoning, if you like it, feel free to vote the same way"

that's the exact difference between us--I don't singel out those who disagree with me as necessarily not being with me. I'm not a leader, so i can't have that certainty.
you, at least yesterday, were emanating the certaint that those not voting would have to be on JA's team, since they weren't with you.

that's the difference--I'm not certain. I have no additional to gain certainty from. you give off the appearance of knowing more.


I have never said "vote X, or we'll assume you're X's symp", nor have I singled out those who don't agree with me as not necessarily being with me. If you're talking about my list of people defending Kaschan, then that was in reply to someone who said that Kaschan had nobody defending him. You should know this, because that someone was you.


I have never claimed certainty. In fact, I have made a point several times of mentioning my uncertainty. Just because my posts come across as forceful does not make me certain.

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:09 PM

View PostTennes, on Feb 12 2009, 10:59 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 09:56 PM, said:

HP confesses to have killed Grief.


Errr...

HP claims to have killed Galain. HP encouraged everyone else to target Grief, so he pretty much had to today.

But anyway, why couldn't Galain be a 7th? Is that impossible, or is it just based on percieved behaviour? Someone will have to explain it to me.



it's based on perceived behavior. the 7th is one of the key roles a team has, since he can kill the majority of the players.

it makes little sense for the 7th to hog the spotlight--that'd be the prerogative of either a leader (to get his team to recognise who all their enemies are by garnering votes) or a BM--to stir up as mush shit as possible to keep attention away from his leaders.

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:11 PM

View PostTennes, on Feb 12 2009, 11:08 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 10:00 PM, said:

View PostTennes, on Feb 12 2009, 10:53 PM, said:

Making cases on people = encouraging people to vote. You've no more encouraged people to vote than I have.

Can you please anwser this: What have you accused me of that you could not yourself be guilty of?


disagree with the underlined part.
encouraging people to vote = pointing out individuals and saying "vote X, or we'll assume you're X's symp"
making case = saying, "I think we should vote X, here's my reasoning, if you like it, feel free to vote the same way"

that's the exact difference between us--I don't singel out those who disagree with me as necessarily not being with me. I'm not a leader, so i can't have that certainty.
you, at least yesterday, were emanating the certaint that those not voting would have to be on JA's team, since they weren't with you.

that's the difference--I'm not certain. I have no additional to gain certainty from. you give off the appearance of knowing more.


I have never said "vote X, or we'll assume you're X's symp", nor have I singled out those who don't agree with me as not necessarily being with me. If you're talking about my list of people defending Kaschan, then that was in reply to someone who said that Kaschan had nobody defending him. You should know this, because that someone was you.


I have never claimed certainty. In fact, I have made a point several times of mentioning my uncertainty. Just because my posts come across as forceful does not make me certain.


I regret to inform you, you give of an impression of someone real forceful

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:11 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 10:04 PM, said:

lol, you're gonna accuse me of being a prolific poster now?


Well, you have got nearly twice the number of posts as the next living player.....

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:13 PM

View PostTennes, on Feb 12 2009, 10:55 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 09:47 PM, said:

I mean, I think people forget that if we eliminate both the First and the Third of a school, their symps join the remaining schools.

so unless you think HP's a leader of Fire, attacking him is counterproductive, since you're removing what can potentially become your teammate.


What? Isn't this true of every possible lynch?

Galayn, you're really worried about HP getting lynched, aren't you?


why would I be? he ain't one of my leaders, :D

simply because I fail to see him as a likely leader right now. Aside from having two random votes, that is. but one of them came from you, so if you were signaling him s your leader, you must be the worst symp ever, :D

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:13 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 10:09 PM, said:

View PostTennes, on Feb 12 2009, 10:59 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 09:56 PM, said:

HP confesses to have killed Grief.


Errr...

HP claims to have killed Galain. HP encouraged everyone else to target Grief, so he pretty much had to today.

But anyway, why couldn't Galain be a 7th? Is that impossible, or is it just based on percieved behaviour? Someone will have to explain it to me.



it's based on perceived behavior. the 7th is one of the key roles a team has, since he can kill the majority of the players.

it makes little sense for the 7th to hog the spotlight--that'd be the prerogative of either a leader (to get his team to recognise who all their enemies are by garnering votes) or a BM--to stir up as mush shit as possible to keep attention away from his leaders.


If hogging the spotlight is the job of BM's and leaders, we've got a surprisingly low number of high posters. :D

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:14 PM

View PostTennes, on Feb 12 2009, 11:11 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 10:04 PM, said:

lol, you're gonna accuse me of being a prolific poster now?


Well, you have got nearly twice the number of posts as the next living player.....



i was attempting to keep up with Galain, after all.
but without useless spam and quadruple posts of nothingness

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:15 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 10:13 PM, said:

View PostTennes, on Feb 12 2009, 10:55 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 09:47 PM, said:

I mean, I think people forget that if we eliminate both the First and the Third of a school, their symps join the remaining schools.

so unless you think HP's a leader of Fire, attacking him is counterproductive, since you're removing what can potentially become your teammate.


What? Isn't this true of every possible lynch?

Galayn, you're really worried about HP getting lynched, aren't you?


why would I be? he ain't one of my leaders, :D

simply because I fail to see him as a likely leader right now. Aside from having two random votes, that is. but one of them came from you, so if you were signaling him s your leader, you must be the worst symp ever, :p


Sure, we'll take your word for it. :D

Tell me, why doesn't that post of yours defending HP apply to me as well?

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:16 PM

View PostTennes, on Feb 12 2009, 11:13 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 10:09 PM, said:

View PostTennes, on Feb 12 2009, 10:59 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 09:56 PM, said:

HP confesses to have killed Grief.


Errr...

HP claims to have killed Galain. HP encouraged everyone else to target Grief, so he pretty much had to today.

But anyway, why couldn't Galain be a 7th? Is that impossible, or is it just based on percieved behaviour? Someone will have to explain it to me.



it's based on perceived behavior. the 7th is one of the key roles a team has, since he can kill the majority of the players.

it makes little sense for the 7th to hog the spotlight--that'd be the prerogative of either a leader (to get his team to recognise who all their enemies are by garnering votes) or a BM--to stir up as mush shit as possible to keep attention away from his leaders.


If hogging the spotlight is the job of BM's and leaders, we've got a surprisingly low number of high posters. :D


lol, it's my interpretation of the game. doesn't mean everyone'd think the same way.
plus, it's pretty difficult to keep up with Grief's pace so relative to that, most are low posters

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:17 PM

View PostTennes, on Feb 12 2009, 11:15 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 10:13 PM, said:

View PostTennes, on Feb 12 2009, 10:55 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 09:47 PM, said:

I mean, I think people forget that if we eliminate both the First and the Third of a school, their symps join the remaining schools.

so unless you think HP's a leader of Fire, attacking him is counterproductive, since you're removing what can potentially become your teammate.


What? Isn't this true of every possible lynch?

Galayn, you're really worried about HP getting lynched, aren't you?


why would I be? he ain't one of my leaders, :D

simply because I fail to see him as a likely leader right now. Aside from having two random votes, that is. but one of them came from you, so if you were signaling him s your leader, you must be the worst symp ever, :p


Sure, we'll take your word for it. :D

Tell me, why doesn't that post of yours defending HP apply to me as well?


if you were from around here, you'd know that I never lie.
and where am I defending HP?
simly becasue I don't think the case on him doesn't have merit doesn't mean i tell others NOT to vote on it--THAT is the principal defference between us.

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:19 PM

not to mention that as i've mentioned, my certainty about you is waning.

but atm i'm more interestedat why with 6 people reading only we 2 are posting?

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:19 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 10:11 PM, said:

I regret to inform you, you give of an impression of someone real forceful


I usually think of it as a good thing in mafia.

You still haven't really explained to me what i'm guilty of that you're not. Because the case on me seems to boil down to "people follow me onto lynches", when the same applies to you.

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:20 PM

View PostTennes, on Feb 12 2009, 11:19 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 10:11 PM, said:

I regret to inform you, you give of an impression of someone real forceful


I usually think of it as a good thing in mafia.

You still haven't really explained to me what i'm guilty of that you're not. Because the case on me seems to boil down to "people follow me onto lynches", when the same applies to you.



see post # 1511

EDIT: as a general rule, appearing forceful is good, but less so in merc games. it creates the perception that you know something others don't. and any extra info is suspicious.

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:23 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 10:19 PM, said:

but atm i'm more interestedat why with 6 people reading only we 2 are posting?


We're just so entertaining. :D

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:24 PM

View PostTennes, on Feb 12 2009, 11:23 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 10:19 PM, said:

but atm i'm more interestedat why with 6 people reading only we 2 are posting?


We're just so entertaining. :D



and that's how high posters are born... boredom mostly

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:30 PM

Stop symping me GL...I don't know you and I don't want to know you. You're not helping.

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:30 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 10:17 PM, said:

if you were from around here, you'd know that I never lie.


Again, i'll just take your word for that. :D


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and where am I defending HP?


Right here:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 09:47 PM, said:

I mean, I think people forget that if we eliminate both the First and the Third of a school, their symps join the remaining schools.

so unless you think HP's a leader of Fire, attacking him is counterproductive, since you're removing what can potentially become your teammate.


You're discouraging people from lynching HP quite clearly. You mentioned HP by name.


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simly becasue I don't think the case on him doesn't have merit doesn't mean i tell others NOT to vote on it--THAT is the principal defference between us.


I have never told anyone to not vote on a case because I didn't agree with it. Again, if you're talking about my list of people defending Kaschan, then that was in reply to you yourself who said that Kaschan had nobody defending him.

But you've just done exactly that! You've told people not to vote for HP. Far more than I ever have for a case.

Edit for clarity.

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:33 PM

remove vote

vote Tennes


for reasons that should be obvious :D

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:35 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Feb 12 2009, 10:30 PM, said:

Stop symping me GL...I don't know you and I don't want to know you. You're not helping.



should I be hurt by this?
just because I don't think you're a leader... or are you trying to say that you are, :D

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