[Galayn Lord]

so, Tennes joke-votes kaschan foGalain mentioning in RP that Kas is a foot taller

then, Grief and Dkt have their little standoff, andgrief makes a "kaschan is dkt's leader" case

 Tennes, on Feb 10 2009, 12:48 PM, said:

 Galain, on Feb 10 2009, 12:44 PM, said:

 Korlat, on Feb 10 2009, 02:40 PM, said:

 Galain, on Feb 10 2009, 01:35 PM, said:

Well, that means we know im not 1st or 3rd of at least one team

Or would it perhaps be because I voted kaschan, and no one on your team would do that...

You voted for kaschan?

meh...


You shouted SYMP!! when i voted for you.
I now know two things, that you never realised we are in fact all symps, And that kaschan is not your leader, thanks.

And all that in "the spam faze"

I shouted "symp" as a joke.
I am well aware that we are almost all symps.

Oh and thanks:

You know that kaschan is NOT my leader.
You also happen to know i'm not on your team.
Kaschan=Your leader.

This works for me.

I'm keeping my vote on Kaschan.

and all of a sudden,Tennes is back and all business-like.

Korlat votes to prove JA's not his leader, ut that makes things worse.

next up we have Shadow come in and vote.

 Shadow, on Feb 10 2009, 01:40 PM, said:

Vote Kaschan

Gaylord tried a slight attempt at de-railing the threat b voting Galain, and Korlat has made things worse by over reacting, possible Kas is just the 3rd, but good chance he's the 1st.

Ano votes Tennes, and some label it as a signal. Tennes response:

 Tennes, on Feb 10 2009, 01:55 PM, said:

 Ampelas, on Feb 10 2009, 01:35 PM, said:

Here now, so much spam there and the first proper case! Have to say it is a bit suspicious that Korlat is getting quite so worked up and overreacting from a joke vote. He's my prime suspect at the moment, but I am happy to let things develop a little more to see if more information can be gathered before placing my vote.

 Anomandaris, on Feb 10 2009, 01:50 PM, said:

 Tennes, on Feb 10 2009, 01:47 PM, said:

 Ampelas, on Feb 10 2009, 01:35 PM, said:

I am happy to let things develop a little more to see if more information can be gathered before placing my vote.

How are we going to get more info without more votes? Pick someone. It doesn't even have to be anyone who's posted yet, at least that tells us something about you. You can always change votes later.

Over 32 hours of the day left, half the players have not posted yet and there are 5 votes already on Kaschan.

You want a vote?

vote Tennes

What does that tell you about ME?

You said Korlat was your top suspect, not Kaschan. But anyway.... (ETA: Ignore this bit. I got Ampelas and Anomandaris mixed up).

It tells everyone that i'm not your master (at least if you leave the vote there). Which is more than we get from you just sitting back and watching. Then if more people agree with your vote, you get to see who (if anyone) defends me. Which is more info again.

Without votes, we don't get that.

i'll have to see if he ever removed it...

[D'riss]

I have to agree. I'm liking the Tennes case better than the cases being made against HP and Serc. This mention of him voting for Kaschan is just another strike against him. I think he is a potential number more than either of the aforementioned two. Tennes has pointed out serc as someone who voted the same, and I've had my suspicions about him.

Of course, this Tennes case could have been started by HP's supposed symps.


Vote Tennes

[Galayn Lord]

thanks guys but i'm looking at the actual posts when people vote on the train--those are far more informative than just the list, though they take a helluva lot more time.

[Galayn Lord]

okay, now i'm scared how fast my case's picking up spped,

[Shadow]

 Ruse, on Feb 12 2009, 10:21 AM, said:

 Emurlahn, on Feb 12 2009, 10:13 AM, said:

Iz thinking Rashan prbly just n00b sauce. Iz trying to distance from everybody, and make himself most acceptable target. WiFOM iz for teh Firsts to atk him and keep him safe from 7ths. iz prbly nothing, but I'll be watching him closely naow.

AND

remove vote

vote Emurlahn

I really hate that lol cat speak. not joking. really hate it. makes me think you are hiding something.

 Emurlahn, on Feb 12 2009, 10:27 AM, said:

 Ruse, on Feb 12 2009, 01:21 PM, said:

 Emurlahn, on Feb 12 2009, 10:13 AM, said:

Iz thinking Rashan prbly just n00b sauce. Iz trying to distance from everybody, and make himself most acceptable target. WiFOM iz for teh Firsts to atk him and keep him safe from 7ths. iz prbly nothing, but I'll be watching him closely naow.

AND

remove vote

vote Emurlahn

I really hate that lol cat speak. not joking. really hate it. makes me think you are hiding something.

Okay...harsh. Not hiding anything, just like teh lolcatz. But if you hate it so much I will cease. Also, Rashan's defense above, is enough proof that he's not a n00b to satisfy me. Now, to proof that he's not a liar is still needed, but I can see he's def not a n00b.

 Ruse, on Feb 12 2009, 10:30 AM, said:

 Emurlahn, on Feb 12 2009, 10:23 AM, said:

 Ruse, on Feb 12 2009, 01:17 PM, said:

 Emurlahn, on Feb 12 2009, 10:13 AM, said:

Iz thinking Rashan prbly just n00b sauce. Iz trying to distance from everybody, and make himself most acceptable target. WiFOM iz for teh Firsts to atk him and keep him safe from 7ths. iz prbly nothing, but I'll be watching him closely naow.

Rash is def not a noob, and probably one of the more logical, analytical players left in the game.

Well, I haven't seen a lot of posts from him, and don't feel like digging through 38 pages to find them. As I alluded too, wasn't really paying attention to him, so I didn't see a great deal to suggest to me that he was anything special. I remember hearing about RL issues, but that was it. Anything he's said that would lend credence to your statement would be much appreciated.

Go to the Post above yours and click on his name. then click on find members posts. It will show all his posts for all mafia games. ( you only need the first 15 or so ) His posts are 90% content with mostly no filler. like he said he's limited by work.

remove vote

thanks,

Thats some terrible distancing guys. I mean, really?

 Galayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 11:16 AM, said:

 Shadow, on Feb 12 2009, 03:46 PM, said:

Ok, I am back and it took alot of catching up so in order. HA! JA got dead! HA! Team fire killed him(Galain!). HA! Hood's path was distancing! HA! The thing were Serc said to kill all 3 of them is weird, but no way is there anyway for his team to have actualy done so, as no one knew anyone elses rank. And finaly BOOOO ANOMANDARIS!!! Hope everthing is alright, but BOOOO anyway!

Sorry about my absense guys, my net crashed, and my phone isn't really made for texting. I am here and off, but will be around periodically. Before I go I am going to

Vote Gay Lord

Just a hunch right now, but I think he is team fire, and was trying to make up for the DK, distancing technique. I see it as distancing since DK wasn't a noob, and am hoping we hit the fire leader or 3rd. Too many people put up a defense for him(JA) not to have been known. I may change, but right now, thats what I am seeing.

errm....

so, you're suggesting Grief was a moron blackmask who decided to get his leader lynched for fun, then?

that's provided JA was leader.

I got my people mixed up, don't ask me why I thought grief and dk were the same person. Someone (Fener?) pointed that out earlier, and I agree.

Remove Vote Vote Hood's Balls, I mean Path


Not really sure about the Tennes thing, but more evidence against HP being team fire at the moment. I will switch if I get the chance to be on before the dead lline. Internet is still touch and go at the moment. To be honest, I think its all going to be a crap shoot until days 6 or 7, after some of the fodder (BM's) are cleared out of the way, and no I am not saying I am or am not a BM, but there are more of them than anything else. Also, I read earlier where someone took the credit for killing Grief, and thanked the other person who helped them do it (implying that they were a BM and whoever the other BM was), I thought that was pretty questionable. If I get time, I'll look for the quote. Or someone else could do it, and you could discuss. Back when I can.

[D'riss]

Shadow, HP was the one who said that.

[Galayn Lord]

 Shadow, on Feb 12 2009, 08:17 PM, said:

Remove Vote Vote Hood's Balls, I mean Path

I lol'ed

[Tennes]

 Galayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 07:26 PM, said:

one person that really stands out to me though is Tennes. He appears eager to jump on almost any train anyone else makes, and the train seems to swell soon after he voices his supicions.

he's been pushy and agressive all game, and I feel that he's a high-rank, hiding in plain sight.

 Galayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 08:03 PM, said:

little-known fact: Tennes was actually the first to vote Kaschan.

yes, I am venturing into the sea of re-read spam to figure out the kas vote train

So i'm the first to vote for Kaschan, and the second to vote for HP. But i'm also jumping on everyone else's trains. Got it.

What you've done here is decide to try to get me lynched. So you make a case against me for following others (despite this being true of a lot of players in the game, but not me). Then you realise that this is nonsense, so you make a case against me for doing the opposite - Making cases that others follow me on.

 D'riss, on Feb 12 2009, 08:16 PM, said:

I have to agree. I'm liking the Tennes case better than the cases being made against HP and Serc. This mention of him voting for Kaschan is just another strike against him. I think he is a potential number more than either of the aforementioned two. Tennes has pointed out serc as someone who voted the same, and I've had my suspicions about him.

Of course, this Tennes case could have been started by HP's supposed symps.

Why is my voting for Kaschan a strike against me? You'll notice lots of people did. Of course, if it's being the first vote on the lynch that's a strike against someone, then people will never vote for anyone.

I like to keep the game moving, and I like to put people under pressure. Not my fault people follow my cases.

[D'riss]

My point is that suspicion arises when the train burgeons upon your joining it. Maybe coincidental, but still...

[Tennes]

At the end of day 1, the votes for Galain were:
6 votes for galain (Galayn Lord, kaschan, silanah, ruse, mockra, telas)

And the votes for me now are:
5 voted for me (Galayn Lord, Ruse, Telas, Emurlahn, D'riss)

Now lets look at this post:

 Galayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 07:57 PM, said:

come to think of it, If Tennes is a leader, his day 1 accusations of all the people that didn't vote Kaschan make more sense.

Anyone that wasn't following him was likely not on his team, and by accusing them he'd be letting his own followers know exactly who to watch out for.

So by the logic of your case on me, Ruse and Telas are your symps (as, incidentally, would be Kaschan). You've started both cases and you've been followed on both of them by as many people as me (if we include Kaschan). Everything you accuse me of, you yourself could be guilty of. And you are the one who's come up with the idea of players following their masters onto lynch trains - Which could be a clue to your symps to start following you.

But here's the thing. You've accused me of being "pushy and aggressive all game". And I have been, a little. So are you. But is this behaviour you'd expect from a leader? Pushy and aggressive players attract attention and piss people off. So why would a leader, whose early game motivations must be to stay alive above all else, act like this?

That's why I don't think this case on you is true (and obviously I don't think your case on me is true ).


I'd still really like to lynch HP today. I badly want to know if HP will come up fire.

[Tennes]

 D'riss, on Feb 12 2009, 08:49 PM, said:

My point is that suspicion arises when the train burgeons upon your joining it. Maybe coincidental, but still...

But that doesn't address the point I made. If you suspect people for being the first on a lynch, as you seem to, nobody will ever get lynched as people are too scared to vote.

Someone's got to vote and make cases, else the game goes nowhere.

[D'riss]

I don't suspect you because you hopped on first; I suspect you because of possibly coincidental circumstances.

[Emurlahn]

 Tennes, on Feb 12 2009, 03:50 PM, said:

At the end of day 1, the votes for Galain were:
6 votes for galain (Galayn Lord, kaschan, silanah, ruse, mockra, telas)

And the votes for me now are:
5 voted for me (Galayn Lord, Ruse, Telas, Emurlahn, D'riss)

Now lets look at this post:

 Galayn Lord, on Feb 12 2009, 07:57 PM, said:

come to think of it, If Tennes is a leader, his day 1 accusations of all the people that didn't vote Kaschan make more sense.

Anyone that wasn't following him was likely not on his team, and by accusing them he'd be letting his own followers know exactly who to watch out for.

So by the logic of your case on me, Ruse and Telas are your symps (as, incidentally, would be Kaschan). You've started both cases and you've been followed on both of them by as many people as me (if we include Kaschan). Everything you accuse me of, you yourself could be guilty of. And you are the one who's come up with the idea of players following their masters onto lynch trains - Which could be a clue to your symps to start following you.

But here's the thing. You've accused me of being "pushy and aggressive all game". And I have been, a little. So are you. But is this behaviour you'd expect from a leader? Pushy and aggressive players attract attention and piss people off. So why would a leader, whose early game motivations must be to stay alive above all else, act like this?

That's why I don't think this case on you is true (and obviously I don't think your case on me is true ).


I'd still really like to lynch HP today. I badly want to know if HP will come up fire.

You know, Tennes, you forgot to mention the fact that GL is Galain's Lord (terrible pun I know) and they are therefore on the same team, even though they didn't know. I think we've found team Fire.

(Just pointing out how ridiculous I think he's being.)

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 2, you have 9 hours remaining (sort of)

21 players remain, 11 to lynch or goto night.

6 votes for hp ( tennes, serc, meanas, fener, omtose, shaodw)
5 votes for tennes (telas, emurlahn, driss, ruse, galayn)
1 vote for rashan (hp)
1 vote for serc (silanah)

[Emurlahn]

You know, if we all switch our votes back to HP, we can kill him and find out about Tennes tomorrow. Or vice versa, either works with me. I'll leave you guys now to go and play Fallout. I'll definitely be back before time is up.

[Silanah]

OK I'm off to sleep. I may be back just before deadline.

In case I'm not, I'll vote:

Tennes

as I prefer the case on Tennes to the one on HP. I'm still unconvinced that HP is a leader, whereas Tennes strikes me as someone who could easily be looking to hide in plain view and has already WiFoMed that suggestion.

Don't forget provisionals people.

[D'riss]

I don't have a problem with either option.

[Tennes]

 Silanah, on Feb 12 2009, 09:15 PM, said:

as I prefer the case on Tennes to the one on HP. I'm still unconvinced that HP is a leader, whereas Tennes strikes me as someone who could easily be looking to hide in plain view and has already WiFoMed that suggestion.

Saying that I don't think a leader would act in a certain way is not WIFOM.

Saying that I don't think a killer would act in a certain way, but that's what they'd think everyone would think, therefore they will act in that way, that would be WIFOM.

[Ampelas]

Hi all, here now!

I am not really convinced by the Hood's Path case, and I do think the Tennes case is slightly stronger. However, if we are talking about hiding in plain sight, how about Galayn Lord? If you are going to argue people have been following Tennes on the voting, note that Galayn Lord himself has been leading trains on both days, firstly the failed one on Galain and now a train on Tennes.

Just throwing this idea out there, will have a read to see if I can find any quotes to back this up.

[Tennes]

 Ampelas, on Feb 12 2009, 09:32 PM, said:

Hi all, here now!

I am not really convinced by the Hood's Path case, and I do think the Tennes case is slightly stronger. However, if we are talking about hiding in plain sight, how about Galayn Lord? If you are going to argue people have been following Tennes on the voting, note that Galayn Lord himself has been leading trains on both days, firstly the failed one on Galain and now a train on Tennes.

Just throwing this idea out there, will have a read to see if I can find any quotes to back this up.

This is the point I made above.

Everything Galayn Lord accuses me of, he himself is also guilty of.