[foolio]

just throw a couple of questions out and hope that it is OK to do it here. I think it was Reapers gale that we see Fener hiding in the errants temple under Lether. Have we seen him since? What was he doing in Lether? Heboric "pulled him down" when he touched the Jade staue right, that happend a long way away on Otataral Island. He is just vulnerable, not necessarily powerless right?

[L'oric]

foolio, on Feb 3 2009, 03:45 PM, said:

just throw a couple of questions out and hope that it is OK to do it here. I think it was Reapers gale that we see Fener hiding in the errants temple under Lether. Have we seen him since? What was he doing in Lether? Heboric "pulled him down" when he touched the Jade staue right, that happend a long way away on Otataral Island. He is just vulnerable, not necessarily powerless right?

I think there is plenty of room in the House of War for Fener. Treach is the Hunter. Fener could very well be the soldier or something else if he ever gets back into the House. Stormy and Gesler and a bunch of Fener's followers are in the 14th so I definately think he will find himself stronger than he used to be. I would think a meeting between Gesler, Stormy and Fener would be in the Top 10 things I would like to see in Dust of Dreams but probably wont.

Or the errant will let some street urchin kill him with a knife in the back for the wart on his backside.

Sincerely,
L'oric

[Urizen]

L'oric, on Feb 3 2009, 10:52 PM, said:

foolio, on Feb 3 2009, 03:45 PM, said:

just throw a couple of questions out and hope that it is OK to do it here. I think it was Reapers gale that we see Fener hiding in the errants temple under Lether. Have we seen him since? What was he doing in Lether? Heboric "pulled him down" when he touched the Jade staue right, that happend a long way away on Otataral Island. He is just vulnerable, not necessarily powerless right?

I think there is plenty of room in the House of War for Fener. Treach is the Hunter. Fener could very well be the soldier or something else if he ever gets back into the House. Stormy and Gesler and a bunch of Fener's followers are in the 14th so I definately think he will find himself stronger than he used to be. I would think a meeting between Gesler, Stormy and Fener would be in the Top 10 things I would like to see in Dust of Dreams but probably wont.

Or the errant will let some street urchin kill him with a knife in the back for the wart on his backside.

Sincerely,
L'oric

Isn't there a Mecrenary Card in High House War that has no known occupant?
Since I despise The Errant; It's heavly impiled at the end (or in the epilouge) of RG that Mael lays the smack down on the Errant off stage, so I'm holding out hope that Fener can jump a wounded Errant, swipe his mojo, return to the God pantheon and banish the Errant to the Abyss.

[HoosierDaddy]

Fener has, as far as we all know, been permanently pulled into Wu in physical form. He is extremely vulnerable, and his position has been supplanted in the pantheon. We have no idea how long he will be able to contain his powers and remain in hiding. As soon as it becomes known he is around, he's probably going to get offed. I see him making an appearance at the "Battleground of the Gods" in TCG.

[D'rek]

It's obviously setting up for an event (minor by my expectations) involving Gesler, Stormy and the soldiers from the 3rd Company whom we saw discussing their former allegiance to the Boar Company.

The unresolved issues that will be taken up at said event may include:

-The end of Heboric and how Hood used him to ward off the statues
-Why Legana Breed called Stormy Shield Anvil in BH (because Heboric healed his thigh with his Fener hand)
-The ever-so-pressing issue from DG of what hand Heboric healed Stormy with -- see above^^
-Some history on the Boar Company

And then the event will rap up with Fener dying or crying or both!

[Ain't_It_Just_]

Some believe that Fener will join the CG, being cast down and bereft. I don't really, but I remember in TtH the cult of the CG was being held in an abandoned Temple of Fener. An admission, perhaps?

And I recall reading something about Fener growing huge and bursting through the temple he was hiding in. What the hell's that about?

[Urizen]

D'rek, on Feb 4 2009, 05:29 AM, said:

It's obviously setting up for an event (minor by my expectations) involving Gesler, Stormy and the soldiers from the 3rd Company whom we saw discussing their former allegiance to the Boar Company.

The unresolved issues that will be taken up at said event may include:

-The end of Heboric and how Hood used him to ward off the statues
-Why Legana Breed called Stormy Shield Anvil in BH (because Heboric healed his thigh with his Fener hand)
-The ever-so-pressing issue from DG of what hand Heboric healed Stormy with -- see above^^
-Some history on the Boar Company

And then the event will rap up with Fener dying or crying or both!

What happened to Legana Breed by the way? He somehow winds in Malaz City, gets his sword back from Stormy (Why did he give it away in the first place?), proceds to kick some serious ass as Gesler, Fid and Stormy return to the ship and then nothing. Not even a "see you later, I'm of to Assil" or anything..

[Benji]

I think, because of how he avoided being imprisoned in the rent, he may very well be outcast like Tool now. Or perhaps something similar. My guess is that he's just wandering around now, trying to come to terms with it.

[Bauchelain the Evil]

@AIJ: You must remember that while blocked on Wu Fener is still a God and so managed with that little power he had left to take a rather measly form. But he cannot stay like that for ever, and so will one day regain his true form(a boar as big as a mountain from what we know from DG) and so the Errant was worried he will attract too much attention.

[Aptorian]

I would pay good money for Erikson just writting a short story where Fener loses it, becomes a ginourmous wilderbeast stretching into the clouds stomping around on Lether while Mael runs around it's legs telling Fener to seize and desist whiles't hopelessly throwing small waves against the giant pigs feet.

[foolio]

Him being described in the errants temple kind of reminded me of Ryllandaras in ROTCG, without the bloodlust. But the way they are both kind of man-like but also beastly. I dont really understand rather he is an elemental force, or started off as a mortal man, ascended then kind of started resembleing a boar, or what. Not really important but has me curious. I would like to see his plot play out.

[Sinisdar Toste]

that relates to the "worshippers shape their gods" thing i think. fener ascended because of his crazy fighting skill, which resembled that of a boar, he gained some worshippers who started calling him that, then hundreds of thousands of people started worshipping him as the boar of summer and he began to transform to suit their vision of him. the same thing probably happened with poliel who appears as some kind of pestulent harpy

This post has been edited by Sinisdar Toste: 04 February 2009 - 11:55 PM

[Cowl's Disciple]

I don't think Fener will be completely forgotten, his ultimate fate may not be seen 'onscreen' as such but consider that SE has shown us Fener in all his earth bound pigness his fate will be addressed in some way.

I'd like a big battle between Fener and some of the CG's minions, kind of like Ryll in ROTCG but with the monster being the good guy!

[Sinisdar Toste]

oh lordy, i just got an image of a k'chain matron and fener thundering around downtown tokyo, screeching and bellowing while people ran screaming in the streets... please, please, please, don't ever let it happen SE!

[Skywalker]

Benji, on Feb 4 2009, 08:42 AM, said:

I think, because of how he avoided being imprisoned in the rent, he may very well be outcast like Tool now. Or perhaps something similar. My guess is that he's just wandering around now, trying to come to terms with it.

The whole reason why he volunteered to close the rent back in HoC was because he was the "last of his clan" (from DG, page 330) Google books linky

So he is a lot like Tool, in that he is clanless... and kinda sorta expendable. But that doesn't mean he isn't still driven by the vow. His visit to Malaz City was a detour to pick up his sword... not sure where he was going though. Assail is as good a guess as any (especially since in MoI, another now-clanless T'lan Imass (Lanas Tog) seemed to have heard the summons for the Gathering (Google books linky), and Silverfox has committed her TI to Assail IIRC.

This post has been edited by Skywalker: 05 February 2009 - 06:55 AM

[Ain't_It_Just_]

Perhaps Fener will be like Greymane, reveal himself to the 14th and march alongisde them, offering his fighting ability. Probably not, though.

[Bauchelain the Evil]

In his conversation with the Errant Fener said that he was going to be ready for a last fight before dieing because he was the God of War and couldn'r resist the call for battle. So he will probably be present in TCG in the big final war between gods and die there.

[Cowl's Disciple]

Bauchelain the Evil, on Feb 6 2009, 02:16 AM, said:

In his conversation with the Errant Fener said that he was going to be ready for a last fight before dieing because he was the God of War and couldn'r resist the call for battle. So he will probably be present in TCG in the big final war between gods and die there.

Can't wait to see that! Will he be in his current form? Given the discussion and points raised above I'd assme he can't shift to any other (if he ever could)?

[Ain't_It_Just_]

I can't help but remember what happened to Treach before he ascended...maybe Fener will be killed by the perhaps-existent KCCM in the wastelands.

[foolio]

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I can't help but remember what happened to Treach before he ascended...maybe Fener will be killed by the perhaps-existent KCCM in the wastelands.

do we know how Treach died before he ascended?