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Mafia 38: Haunted House Massacre (Game thread)

#2161 User is offline   Hood's Path 

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 08:55 PM

View PostSilanah, on Jan 20 2009, 04:35 PM, said:

Finished up reading :p
Im going to have to vote for Serc since he is the most liable lynch for today which is alot better than no lynch.
Liosan did he some good points and some that were meh but it is the strongest case to go on for day 1.
I would much rather lynch Thyrllan though considering he is trying to derail this lynch quite strongly.
The one thing I am concerned about is that people think that it is symping but it might be a twin trying not to get their twin lynched.

Vote Serc



Conveniently Sil pops back up, please note it looks like we have a lynch at this point, PS is in fact counting the votes. He has very little to say after reading all of those pages other than that he likes some of Liosan's case but he would rather vote Thyrllan. Nothing really of any use at all to add to the case. The weird thing is though that he goes with the popular vote and jumps on the Serc train when it looks like we have the lynch. Why wouldn't you just wait for PS to cound and see if we had the lynch before throwing your vote in there? In the end his vote isn't counted, but it does diffuse some of the attention he may have gotten for not being around and not really adding anything of use, and the timing of his posts/vote. If one wasn't reading carefully, you might even have thought his vote counted and it looks like he was just going along with the majority. As I said previously he had some RL issues going on so I'll give him some leeway, but it's still suspicious behaviour.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 05:06 AM, said:

Hmmmm.. a Psychopath dead on day 1 is a very good sign :)
My biggest concern right now is that the necromancers had a lucky guess on a recruitment of a Psychopath's kill.
Sucks to be going to bed now... see you all in several hours :p



This is the first time we really hear from Sil after the Serc lynch, we have also just found out Emu was a psychopath. He pops in again and states the obvious. Then lo and behold he's off to bed! Well he just signed in and now he's gone again having really had nothing to say.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 05:08 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on Jan 21 2009, 05:28 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 11:07 PM, said:

Hello, just catching up on the last few pages :p


I just want to make sure that people notice what time Silanah posted to see if he posts again anytime soon. I would but I really have to go and study.


Took me nearly an hour to read about 7 pages or so.
Time for me to flail my arms around for you having not much of a case on me from me not posting much. Ive had some rl issues to deal with and I said I would post more today which is what I am planning to do. Its not my fault I am in a different time zone from others, it just gives me a disadvantage.

As for cases so far, Ruse and Thy might have had their pissing fight a while back but them both seem to be innocent in my eyes. The people I am keeping tabs on are Liosan for not much reason other than pushing an innocent lynch and Tennes for posting not much either.



After his absence is noted by someone he pops back in citing RL issues and the time zone for his lack of action. He draws attention to Liosan for pushing the lynch train on Serc. Note that he placed his vote for Serc based on the Liosan case and now he's knocking it. So the case was good before, good enough in fact for a vote, but now it seems scummy? Of course he's somewhat in the clear as his vote conveniently didn't count. He also draws attention to Tennes for not posting, when has had almost no posts himself. Again it seems he's just trying to divert attention from the fact that he's lying low. He still has some RL issues going here so I am willing to give him a bit of wiggle room, it is still supicious though.

More to come shortly.....

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 08:58 PM

Moved because HP's case is massive

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 09:15 PM

View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 05:19 PM, said:

View PostFener, on Jan 21 2009, 06:13 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 06:08 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on Jan 21 2009, 05:28 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 11:07 PM, said:

Hello, just catching up on the last few pages :p


I just want to make sure that people notice what time Silanah posted to see if he posts again anytime soon. I would but I really have to go and study.


Took me nearly an hour to read about 7 pages or so.
Time for me to flail my arms around for you having not much of a case on me from me not posting much. Ive had some rl issues to deal with and I said I would post more today which is what I am planning to do. Its not my fault I am in a different time zone from others, it just gives me a disadvantage.

As for cases so far, Ruse and Thy might have had their pissing fight a while back but them both seem to be innocent in my eyes. The people I am keeping tabs on are Liosan for not much reason other than pushing an innocent lynch and Tennes for posting not much either.


Oh, that's rich, you're pressuring somebody else for doing exactly the same thing you've been pressured for. How does that make you feel, Mr. Pot? I'm sure its not as bad as Mr. Kettle feels. Maybe you should apologize. If you want us to back off of you, you should start by showing some real thought, adding significantly to the conversation, and not pushing lynches on people who do exactly what you've been doing. (Something Thyr taught me in the afore mentioned ModCraft game. Which I single handedly turned into a victory. What? I'm not gloating.)


Oh no lol, I have promised that I will post more but tennes is more likely going to be modkilled from inactivity. He hasn't posted any reasons for his absence has he? You want me to add something significant, I can put together a case if you wish :)


Here we find Sil is under some pressure for his previous accusations. He states he is going to put together a case for us to look at.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 10:30 PM, said:

Dead thread is dead
Well I went back over some of the posts and this is the one which stood out for me

View PostMeanas, on Jan 21 2009, 11:03 AM, said:

Also to whom ever asked if the killers could be recruited. Think about it. Uhhh NO they couldn't. If their symps can't be recruited then the killers definately can't. We don't need to have every little thing spelled out for all of us do we.


Why is he certain they cannot be recruited? Maybe he is a killer himself and was recruited for all we know. Nothing has led us to believe that killers cannot be recruited as it only states so for the symps, not killers. The same could be thought for twins as they know each other but that wouldn't leave many people that are able to be recruited.
Might be a good idea for me to start looking at some of his posts.



Here is the whole of the case he's come up with after all of that reading. The only thing he has is that Meanas seems supicious for being certaing the killers can't be recruited. At this time there was a case being built on Kesso, but he ignores that completely and he's gone again.


View PostSilanah, on Jan 23 2009, 03:26 PM, said:

Good Morning :p Im glad I made a somewhat convincing case :p

Tennes, you only seem to post like once a day to not get modkilled..
It could mean you just log in and send in a night action every day and there is not much information to make a case on you.
If you want to live, start playing the game



Here is Sil calling Tennes out again when he is stil posting very little. He did make a case agains Kaschan quite a while before this post but that was it. Why are you calling attention to people when you are doing the same thing?

View PostSilanah, on Jan 23 2009, 04:14 PM, said:

Im starting to think we should just lynch tennes off in the first 30 mins of day. If he missed mod kill by 8 mins then he must know what time to post.



Here he is pushing for the lynch of Tennes again, this time he wants a spped lynch. It seems pretty scummy to me that you would be pushing for a lynch on someone for low post count when you are guilty of the same thing.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 23 2009, 04:37 PM, said:

He has nothing to contribute and posts once a day which is nothing relevant
There really isn't much point keeping him around.. we can't even construct a case on him.



At this point Galain points out that a speed lynch is not the best idea, but Sil is still pushing for the lynch. If you look back at Sil's posts you will see that he too had a low post count and much of what he said wasn't the most relevant either. So why bring all this attention to someone else for doing the same thing. It does allow him to keep his post count up and it is an easy addition to make, but doesn't really tellus anything we don't already know.

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 09:28 PM

Its interesting how you say I have a low post count. The only reason I wanted Tennes gone is not posting is an easy way to stay out of the spotlight for scum. So far I have 61 posts whereas you have 56.

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 09:36 PM

View PostSilanah, on Jan 25 2009, 02:53 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on Jan 25 2009, 10:47 AM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jan 24 2009, 08:26 PM, said:

Wow, not a lot has happened while I was away.


Apart from the case made on you, you mean? :)


And with that, I'm off for a bit...might be back later.


Well.. to be honest, it wasn't very strong.. you and I both know that, so I really don't need to defend myself from someone trying to scrape something from the bottom of the barrel. So yes, nothing really happened :p



Here Sil dismisses a case against him, and states that nothing has happened when in fact there have been cases made while he was on. Against Omtose and himself just to name two. He has nothing to say about the cases but throws a post in there anyways. Again is this just to get some posts to keep the post count up or does he just have nothing more to add. He had also complained that there was no one on, but as soon as day comes around and people show up he immediately leaves. I'm not sure if this is due to time zone, but it does seem suspicious that he is rarely on during discussion and just pops up at opportune times.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 26 2009, 03:33 AM, said:

3 vote for Galayn Lord (Liosan, Omtose, Meanas, Hood's Path, Korlat, Shadow)
That definitely is 3 votes.

I'm going to go read up on the GL cases and decide if I want to hop aboard :p



Here we go again a nothing post stating the obvious. I'm sure we all know that three votes is definitely three votes. Why bother posting that? Especially after you accuse people of not having content in their posts.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 26 2009, 03:58 AM, said:

After reading up on the cases, I would like to vote for GL. Mainly based on how he reacted after the Kess reveal and such.
I won't put my vote on him yet though considering we might have 2 double voters on the train so I would like to hear from him before condemning him.



Here we go again he's read up and he would like to vote for GL but he doesn't. The excuse being two double voters on the train and wanting to hear from GL. So one would assume he will be back later to cast his vote. I'm not sure why you would automatically assume we had two double voters on the train, but it is a good excuse for drawing attention to someone but not commiting yourself. Makes it easier to claim innocence later if any pressure is thrown your way.

View PostPath-Shaper, on Jan 26 2009, 12:58 PM, said:

It is day 4 -

16 players still playing, 9 votes to lynch, 8 votes for night

1 vote for Anomandaris (Galayn Lord)
8 vote for Galayn Lord (Liosan, Omtose, Meanas, Hood's Path, Korlat, Shadow, D'riss, Rashan)
1 vote for Shadow (Anomandaris)

6 have not voted: Galain, Mockra, Ruse, Silanah, Tennes, Thyrllan.






The week end start. You hear some strange noises - psychopathic laughs, unhuman yells, and various sinister noises - but strangely nobody seems to care.

On monday morning, things take a turn for the serious.

"Where were we?" ask some.

"Oh, yeah, Galain Lord."

"Indeed..."

"Sure..."

"No problem..."

"Here's the rope!"

Galayn Lord (Baudin) has been lynched.


It is now night. Those concerned, please send your night action.


GL is lynched an conveniently Sil never did show up to place that vote, even after GL put forth his defence.

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 09:48 PM

View PostSilanah, on Jan 26 2009, 04:42 PM, said:

Pfffffft fine...
Not much alcohol in the house...
Just put together some lemonade and Galliano because im bored.
Happy? Peer pressure sucks :)



Here it is night following GL lynch Sil conveniently pops up again when no one is around after all the action has occured. There is no mention made of the GL lynch or why he failed to return or to cast his vote.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 27 2009, 01:41 PM, said:

Just caught up on the last few pages
Hmmmmm.... im starting to think that Ano is a killer and we might have found a symp or 2 from the last few votes.



Here Sil pops up after catching up and tells us he thinks Ano is a killer. Why though does he think this? He never gives us a reason.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 27 2009, 02:01 PM, said:

Either way he must be taken out at some point
Vote Anomandaris
I would post more reason but my internet is going to be taken out for about 4-5 hours for maintenace and the time that I was told it was going to happen has already passed.



Twenty minutes later he's back noting for Ano, but gives us no reason. This time the excuse is that he has no internet. So far he has used RL issues (which I believe really were true), time zone, lack of people to discuss with and no internet to excuse his shady behaviour. All of these things are convenient cover for lack of posts, content, convenient timing and suspicious actions. It seems like we have a new excuse everytime he's on.

More to come...

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 09:59 PM

oops

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THIS IS HOW I ROLL BITCHES!!!
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Posted 29 January 2009 - 10:00 PM

Hi Rashan

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 10:22 PM

View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 04:02 AM, said:

Having a role doesn't mean you are not a symp...



After the whole Mockra, D'riss reveals this is all that you that Sil has to add, plus this has been mentioned already, then he's gone again. So once more a small insignificant comment about something that has been pointed out by someone else beforehand.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 05:54 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on Jan 28 2009, 06:43 AM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 05:39 AM, said:

Wow fast night



View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 08:16 AM, said:

For all we know we lynched all the killers and the creature and there are only symps and 2 or so necros



View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 11:02 AM, said:

Having a role doesn't mean you are not a symp...



View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 12:35 PM, said:

Im off to sleep once again :)
See you again in a few hours


all this in 7 hours.
Its one thing not building cases....but this is all you have to say in all that time..with everything that has happened?
You only came out and actually DID something when people started voting for you because you were always MIA.
Now that thats died down...you seem to be retreating back into your old ways. hhhhm?



i only started playing because my rl issues were dealt with
if you have not realized, the time that i come online, nobody else really is because of my time zone
its not my fault i cant make a high post count because im not part of the discussion




Here someone finally calls Sil on his lack of activity. The RL life issue is done with bit now it's time zone. Remember this is the same person who was relentless about Tennes not posting and wasn't willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.


View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 01:59 PM, said:

Lets see..
I believe that there were 2 witches, Driss and Mockra, and both are potentially useless now
Mockra is a symp and I also think that Shadow might be a double vote symp which I think is potentially dangerous.
Driss might be recruited tonight.. but whatever killers there are left might choose someone who is more of a threat now to kill



After being pressured for not posting this is what Sil comes up with. Nothing to back it up, no content just this statement. What makes him think Shadow is a double vote symp, this is coming out of nowhere. He's repeating his previous behaviour of just popping in and pointing fingers at people for no apparent reason.

View PostRashan, on Jan 28 2009, 02:13 PM, said:

@ Silanah- would you mind putting forth some evidence as to why you think Shadow is a double vote symp please.



Here we have Rashan asking for the Shadow statement

View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 02:41 PM, said:

Well I believed Ano to be a killer, not undead.
I thought Mockra and Shadow were symps based on how they acted during the Ano train.
With Mockra revealing as a witch and looking over the trains, i thought Shadow might be a double voting symp
Now i re read the voting and it doesn't add up :p



Sil decides to withdraw when he's facing some pressure. Suddenly he goes back to re-read what he has apparently just read and now the numbers don't add up. Another convenient excuse for suspicious behaviour. I would think if you were going to label someone a double symp you would make sure to properly count the votes you were basing the claim on.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 03:09 PM, said:

Two people that have fallen off my radar are Hood's Path and Galain. Can hardly remember any of their posts.
Might read up on them.


Now Sil reverses tack completely and fingers Galain and I for dropping of the radar. I find this strange as I had been posting at various times during the Mockra D'riss reveals and had posted not long before this statement. Once again he's pointing the finger at people for not posting when he hasn't been doing any posting himself. How can you continually draw attention to others, when you have very few posts and very little content in the posts you do have. It's a pretty scummy thing to do, if you can be busy at work or have issues with time zones then so can everyone else. He continues to make statements but does nothing to back them up or give any content of any kind. It throwing alot of suspicion on various people for no reason other than to deflect attention from himself.



View PostSilanah, on Jan 29 2009, 04:00 AM, said:

4.5 hours left... I don't have any idea where this day went.
Ruse, you seem to bite back quite hard, never really thought much of you but that really makes me worried O.o
Im going to sleep and won't be back before day ends so I will leave my vote on Mockra.



Here he's jumping on Ruse for defending himself which seems odd to me as I'm not sure what else he would have expected Ruse to do. Note as well that he is going to be unnavailable to change his vote, so I assume we are supposed to excuse his actions if they end up looking less that straight forward. Also note that he has dropped the whole HP and Galain not being on his radar with absolutely no explanation or follow up.


Overall I find Sil has the most convenient timing of any player in this game. He has very little activity and the activity he does have is just stating the obvious or lacks content entirely. He has pointed the finger at several people for not posting when he has failed to post himself. He mentions that he feels Shadow is a double symp out of the blue and then Shadow mysteriously ends up being lynched. He either says he's going to vote and then never reappears or votes and then tells us he won't be back in order to change it. He's acted strangely at the time of several lynches and his behaviour is all around scummy. He's managed to fly under the radar so far and do as little as possible, while casting blame on several others.

Any thoughts?

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 10:22 PM

OMG, NEKKID!

And now I need to go do something.
Hopefully wont take long.

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 10:25 PM

Wow, all that and not even a vote? You must not be very sure of yourself. It is hard to make a case against the innocent, isn't it?

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 10:30 PM

View PostSilanah, on Jan 29 2009, 04:25 PM, said:

Wow, all that and not even a vote? You must not be very sure of yourself. It is hard to make a case against the innocent, isn't it?



No I'm still at work trying to post when I get a sec, I just wanted to make sure I got that posted so people had a chance to read it. I had every intention of voting when I got a chance to come back on.

vote Silanah

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 10:50 PM

I am going to also:

vote silanah

He seems a bit contradictory, and unwilling to be too involved, for example not really following through pushing too many cases, hopping about, not pushing the same people much.
Also accusing people of things you yourself do really strikes me as instantly bad.

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 11:00 PM

it is Day 7, just a bit over 29 hours left

10 people are still alive (Hood's Path, Silanah, Thyrllan, Galain, Rashan, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, D'riss, Ruse)

takes 6 votes to lynch or 5 to go to night

1 votes Galain (Rashan)
2 votes Silanah (Hood's Path, Thyrllan)

7 people have not voted (Silanah, Galain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, D'riss, Ruse)
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 29 January 2009 - 11:08 PM

2 votes on me already? Someone must be doing something right.

View PostHood's Path, on Jan 29 2009, 03:55 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jan 20 2009, 04:35 PM, said:

Finished up reading :p
Im going to have to vote for Serc since he is the most liable lynch for today which is alot better than no lynch.
Liosan did he some good points and some that were meh but it is the strongest case to go on for day 1.
I would much rather lynch Thyrllan though considering he is trying to derail this lynch quite strongly.
The one thing I am concerned about is that people think that it is symping but it might be a twin trying not to get their twin lynched.

Vote Serc



Conveniently Sil pops back up, please note it looks like we have a lynch at this point, PS is in fact counting the votes. He has very little to say after reading all of those pages other than that he likes some of Liosan's case but he would rather vote Thyrllan. Nothing really of any use at all to add to the case. The weird thing is though that he goes with the popular vote and jumps on the Serc train when it looks like we have the lynch. Why wouldn't you just wait for PS to cound and see if we had the lynch before throwing your vote in there? In the end his vote isn't counted, but it does diffuse some of the attention he may have gotten for not being around and not really adding anything of use, and the timing of his posts/vote. If one wasn't reading carefully, you might even have thought his vote counted and it looks like he was just going along with the majority. As I said previously he had some RL issues going on so I'll give him some leeway, but it's still suspicious behaviour.

We did not know that we had a lynch on not, nobody knew that there were 2 double voters in the game. My vote was simply an addition in case the lynch had not been met. If we had only 1 double voter, my vote would have come in as the last vote. My post was also a cross post with PS if you did not realize they were 1 min apart. As for the vote on Serc, Liosan had the strongest case for day one, therefore would be the most liable. The train was also 1 or 2 votes away from being a lynch with there either being a double voter or not on it so that would be quite hard to derail onto Thy without much evidence as day 1 is mostly spam. I pointed out that Thy tried to derail so why would I derail it myself?

View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 05:06 AM, said:

Hmmmm.. a Psychopath dead on day 1 is a very good sign :)
My biggest concern right now is that the necromancers had a lucky guess on a recruitment of a Psychopath's kill.
Sucks to be going to bed now... see you all in several hours :p



This is the first time we really hear from Sil after the Serc lynch, we have also just found out Emu was a psychopath. He pops in again and states the obvious. Then lo and behold he's off to bed! Well he just signed in and now he's gone again having really had nothing to say.

I thought we had already discussed that I had RL issues and could not be on much but, whatever. The things I say are for specualtion, that does not make me scum. If you had not alreay realized, the time that I am online, there is maybe 1 page of talking. When I go offline, there is about 5 pages done due to everyone coming online. I don't like to make cases then go to bed as usually without me there explaining anything or more conversation, the case is turned against me and I turn up dead in the morning.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 05:08 PM, said:

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View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 11:07 PM, said:

Hello, just catching up on the last few pages :p


I just want to make sure that people notice what time Silanah posted to see if he posts again anytime soon. I would but I really have to go and study.


Took me nearly an hour to read about 7 pages or so.
Time for me to flail my arms around for you having not much of a case on me from me not posting much. Ive had some rl issues to deal with and I said I would post more today which is what I am planning to do. Its not my fault I am in a different time zone from others, it just gives me a disadvantage.

As for cases so far, Ruse and Thy might have had their pissing fight a while back but them both seem to be innocent in my eyes. The people I am keeping tabs on are Liosan for not much reason other than pushing an innocent lynch and Tennes for posting not much either.



After his absence is noted by someone he pops back in citing RL issues and the time zone for his lack of action. He draws attention to Liosan for pushing the lynch train on Serc. Note that he placed his vote for Serc based on the Liosan case and now he's knocking it. So the case was good before, good enough in fact for a vote, but now it seems scummy? Of course he's somewhat in the clear as his vote conveniently didn't count. He also draws attention to Tennes for not posting, when has had almost no posts himself. Again it seems he's just trying to divert attention from the fact that he's lying low. He still has some RL issues going here so I am willing to give him a bit of wiggle room, it is still supicious though.

Liosan's case was not strong but it was the strongest case for day 1. When someone makes a case against an innocent, someone has to suspect that they knew something and knew that person was innocent. Sometimes it is a mistake, sometimes it is on purpose. Tennes comes in all the time saying hi then bye and is gone for 30 hours, I however post during the day, not just posting to avoid modkill, which was Tennes ultimate outcome.

More to come shortly.....

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More to come shortly.....

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 11:28 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Jan 29 2009, 04:15 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 05:19 PM, said:

View PostFener, on Jan 21 2009, 06:13 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 06:08 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on Jan 21 2009, 05:28 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 11:07 PM, said:

Hello, just catching up on the last few pages :p


I just want to make sure that people notice what time Silanah posted to see if he posts again anytime soon. I would but I really have to go and study.


Took me nearly an hour to read about 7 pages or so.
Time for me to flail my arms around for you having not much of a case on me from me not posting much. Ive had some rl issues to deal with and I said I would post more today which is what I am planning to do. Its not my fault I am in a different time zone from others, it just gives me a disadvantage.

As for cases so far, Ruse and Thy might have had their pissing fight a while back but them both seem to be innocent in my eyes. The people I am keeping tabs on are Liosan for not much reason other than pushing an innocent lynch and Tennes for posting not much either.


Oh, that's rich, you're pressuring somebody else for doing exactly the same thing you've been pressured for. How does that make you feel, Mr. Pot? I'm sure its not as bad as Mr. Kettle feels. Maybe you should apologize. If you want us to back off of you, you should start by showing some real thought, adding significantly to the conversation, and not pushing lynches on people who do exactly what you've been doing. (Something Thyr taught me in the afore mentioned ModCraft game. Which I single handedly turned into a victory. What? I'm not gloating.)


Oh no lol, I have promised that I will post more but tennes is more likely going to be modkilled from inactivity. He hasn't posted any reasons for his absence has he? You want me to add something significant, I can put together a case if you wish :)


Here we find Sil is under some pressure for his previous accusations. He states he is going to put together a case for us to look at.

I was thinking about making a case on Tennes but of course, there was really nothing to be found.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 10:30 PM, said:

Dead thread is dead
Well I went back over some of the posts and this is the one which stood out for me

View PostMeanas, on Jan 21 2009, 11:03 AM, said:

Also to whom ever asked if the killers could be recruited. Think about it. Uhhh NO they couldn't. If their symps can't be recruited then the killers definately can't. We don't need to have every little thing spelled out for all of us do we.


Why is he certain they cannot be recruited? Maybe he is a killer himself and was recruited for all we know. Nothing has led us to believe that killers cannot be recruited as it only states so for the symps, not killers. The same could be thought for twins as they know each other but that wouldn't leave many people that are able to be recruited.
Might be a good idea for me to start looking at some of his posts.



Here is the whole of the case he's come up with after all of that reading. The only thing he has is that Meanas seems supicious for being certaing the killers can't be recruited. At this time there was a case being built on Kesso, but he ignores that completely and he's gone again.

Meanas was making assumptions, so I pointed it out. Nothing wrong with that. Do you feel it is not content that I suspect Meanas of being a killer that was recruited? Starting to see a pattern of cases against me that have no merit, therefore, never follow through.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 23 2009, 03:26 PM, said:

Good Morning :p Im glad I made a somewhat convincing case :p

Tennes, you only seem to post like once a day to not get modkilled..
It could mean you just log in and send in a night action every day and there is not much information to make a case on you.
If you want to live, start playing the game



Here is Sil calling Tennes out again when he is stil posting very little. He did make a case agains Kaschan quite a while before this post but that was it. Why are you calling attention to people when you are doing the same thing?

Tennes posted a few times with absolutely no content, just asking him to kindly get off his ass and post some. I posted a little even though I could not be on as much, I at least made the effort. He had no excuse or anything for his absence.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 23 2009, 04:14 PM, said:

Im starting to think we should just lynch tennes off in the first 30 mins of day. If he missed mod kill by 8 mins then he must know what time to post.



Here he is pushing for the lynch of Tennes again, this time he wants a spped lynch. It seems pretty scummy to me that you would be pushing for a lynch on someone for low post count when you are guilty of the same thing.

That was more or less an attempt to make Tennes post more, whihc he did not do. Just a threat that if he did not post, he becomes useless.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 23 2009, 04:37 PM, said:

He has nothing to contribute and posts once a day which is nothing relevant
There really isn't much point keeping him around.. we can't even construct a case on him.



At this point Galain points out that a speed lynch is not the best idea, but Sil is still pushing for the lynch. If you look back at Sil's posts you will see that he too had a low post count and much of what he said wasn't the most relevant either. So why bring all this attention to someone else for doing the same thing. It does allow him to keep his post count up and it is an easy addition to make, but doesn't really tellus anything we don't already know.

It was night, I was pushing no lynch... I had a low post count but explained it. Pointing things is either pointing out the obvious or strengthening a point.

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 11:37 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Jan 29 2009, 04:36 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jan 25 2009, 02:53 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on Jan 25 2009, 10:47 AM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jan 24 2009, 08:26 PM, said:

Wow, not a lot has happened while I was away.


Apart from the case made on you, you mean? :)


And with that, I'm off for a bit...might be back later.


Well.. to be honest, it wasn't very strong.. you and I both know that, so I really don't need to defend myself from someone trying to scrape something from the bottom of the barrel. So yes, nothing really happened :p



Here Sil dismisses a case against him, and states that nothing has happened when in fact there have been cases made while he was on. Against Omtose and himself just to name two. He has nothing to say about the cases but throws a post in there anyways. Again is this just to get some posts to keep the post count up or does he just have nothing more to add. He had also complained that there was no one on, but as soon as day comes around and people show up he immediately leaves. I'm not sure if this is due to time zone, but it does seem suspicious that he is rarely on during discussion and just pops up at opportune times.

It wasn't strong, Ano made a few quite mediocre cases which I feel I did not need to respond to. What I felt was most important was the fact that he was making cases on people that were on the start of the suspected necromancer's train. Since then, he has been lynched for being suspected as a necromancer, so his cases did not show much merit.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 26 2009, 03:33 AM, said:

3 vote for Galayn Lord (Liosan, Omtose, Meanas, Hood's Path, Korlat, Shadow)
That definitely is 3 votes.

I'm going to go read up on the GL cases and decide if I want to hop aboard :p



Here we go again a nothing post stating the obvious. I'm sure we all know that three votes is definitely three votes. Why bother posting that? Especially after you accuse people of not having content in their posts.

PS made a mistake, I pointed it out, stop being a little bitch about irrelevant things.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 26 2009, 03:58 AM, said:

After reading up on the cases, I would like to vote for GL. Mainly based on how he reacted after the Kess reveal and such.
I won't put my vote on him yet though considering we might have 2 double voters on the train so I would like to hear from him before condemning him.



Here we go again he's read up and he would like to vote for GL but he doesn't. The excuse being two double voters on the train and wanting to hear from GL. So one would assume he will be back later to cast his vote. I'm not sure why you would automatically assume we had two double voters on the train, but it is a good excuse for drawing attention to someone but not commiting yourself. Makes it easier to claim innocence later if any pressure is thrown your way.

I don't like condemning people without having a chance to respond. If my vote counted as a lynch, that doesn't seem very fair. At that point in time, i was going to bed in a little while. He did not come back online to defend himself before I left and did while I was sleeping. The lynch occurred before I woke up so I didn't need to vote for him... -.- I did not assume to double voters were on the train, it was a posibility.. nobody could say otherwise as with evidence that there are 2 in the game, why risk the lynch? I don't see you track of thought -.-

View PostPath-Shaper, on Jan 26 2009, 12:58 PM, said:

It is day 4 -

16 players still playing, 9 votes to lynch, 8 votes for night

1 vote for Anomandaris (Galayn Lord)
8 vote for Galayn Lord (Liosan, Omtose, Meanas, Hood's Path, Korlat, Shadow, D'riss, Rashan)
1 vote for Shadow (Anomandaris)

6 have not voted: Galain, Mockra, Ruse, Silanah, Tennes, Thyrllan.






The week end start. You hear some strange noises - psychopathic laughs, unhuman yells, and various sinister noises - but strangely nobody seems to care.

On monday morning, things take a turn for the serious.

"Where were we?" ask some.

"Oh, yeah, Galain Lord."

"Indeed..."

"Sure..."

"No problem..."

"Here's the rope!"

Galayn Lord (Baudin) has been lynched.


It is now night. Those concerned, please send your night action.


GL is lynched an conveniently Sil never did show up to place that vote, even after GL put forth his defence.

Idiot ofc -.- Stil cannot distinguish time



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Posted 29 January 2009 - 11:44 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Jan 29 2009, 04:48 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jan 26 2009, 04:42 PM, said:

Pfffffft fine...
Not much alcohol in the house...
Just put together some lemonade and Galliano because im bored.
Happy? Peer pressure sucks :)



Here it is night following GL lynch Sil conveniently pops up again when no one is around after all the action has occured. There is no mention made of the GL lynch or why he failed to return or to cast his vote.

Oh, im sorry, did you feel I needed to say good job!? I was sleeping, simple as that, im sure most people could have figured that one out. Conveniently you make your points around my absence while I am sleeping which cannot be avoided.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 27 2009, 01:41 PM, said:

Just caught up on the last few pages
Hmmmmm.... im starting to think that Ano is a killer and we might have found a symp or 2 from the last few votes.



Here Sil pops up after catching up and tells us he thinks Ano is a killer. Why though does he think this? He never gives us a reason.

I was not convinced that he was a necromancer but felt that he was more of a killer instead. Nothing wrong with that, is there? I thought that Mockra was a symp at that point, are you happy? Didn't want to condemn Mockra on that day, seemed pointless to make another case on someone else when I wanted Ano lynched.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 27 2009, 02:01 PM, said:

Either way he must be taken out at some point
Vote Anomandaris
I would post more reason but my internet is going to be taken out for about 4-5 hours for maintenace and the time that I was told it was going to happen has already passed.



Twenty minutes later he's back noting for Ano, but gives us no reason. This time the excuse is that he has no internet. So far he has used RL issues (which I believe really were true), time zone, lack of people to discuss with and no internet to excuse his shady behaviour. All of these things are convenient cover for lack of posts, content, convenient timing and suspicious actions. It seems like we have a new excuse everytime he's on.

You still believe I lack content? After making a case and becoming alot more involved? Thats a pretty pathetic point.. My internet was taken out for a few hours due to an upgrade, can't help that. You think my behavior is shady because I cannot be part of the discussion. I don't feel there is a need for me to talk with myself.

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 11:49 PM

@Serc If as you say you felt Liosan had the strongest case on day one, strong enough for you to vote for, why would you turn around and then say you suspect him because he pushed a case on an inno? So one muinute the case is strong and a good one, but the next you're pointing fingers at him because of it? You answer my questions about Tennes by saying he wasn't backing his posts up. That it the point I'm trying to make you weren't backing your statements or posts up either. Why would you call him out when you're doing the same thing.



Also I'm not disputing the fact that you had RL issues I did in fact state I believed you regrading the RL issue regarding your cat. That doesn't mean we shouldn't look at your actions and it doesn't explain your actions after you calimed the RL issues were cleared up. Why have you had so little content and why aren't you backing up your accusations of people or many of the statement you make? (I mean after the RL issues) You don't find it odd that you would just pop in and post you think Shadow is a double symp with no explanation whatsoever?

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:05 AM

Final one :) Getting sick of this charade

View PostHood's Path, on Jan 29 2009, 05:22 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 04:02 AM, said:

Having a role doesn't mean you are not a symp...



After the whole Mockra, D'riss reveals this is all that you that Sil has to add, plus this has been mentioned already, then he's gone again. So once more a small insignificant comment about something that has been pointed out by someone else beforehand.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 05:54 AM, said:

View PostRuse, on Jan 28 2009, 06:43 AM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 05:39 AM, said:

Wow fast night



View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 08:16 AM, said:

For all we know we lynched all the killers and the creature and there are only symps and 2 or so necros



View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 11:02 AM, said:

Having a role doesn't mean you are not a symp...



View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 12:35 PM, said:

Im off to sleep once again :p
See you again in a few hours


all this in 7 hours.
Its one thing not building cases....but this is all you have to say in all that time..with everything that has happened?
You only came out and actually DID something when people started voting for you because you were always MIA.
Now that thats died down...you seem to be retreating back into your old ways. hhhhm?



i only started playing because my rl issues were dealt with
if you have not realized, the time that i come online, nobody else really is because of my time zone
its not my fault i cant make a high post count because im not part of the discussion




Here someone finally calls Sil on his lack of activity. The RL life issue is done with bit now it's time zone. Remember this is the same person who was relentless about Tennes not posting and wasn't willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Not worth the response, stop scratching the bottom of the barrel.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 01:59 PM, said:

Lets see..
I believe that there were 2 witches, Driss and Mockra, and both are potentially useless now
Mockra is a symp and I also think that Shadow might be a double vote symp which I think is potentially dangerous.
Driss might be recruited tonight.. but whatever killers there are left might choose someone who is more of a threat now to kill



After being pressured for not posting this is what Sil comes up with. Nothing to back it up, no content just this statement. What makes him think Shadow is a double vote symp, this is coming out of nowhere. He's repeating his previous behaviour of just popping in and pointing fingers at people for no apparent reason.

Once afuckinggain, I WAS NOT ONLINE, what is so hard for you to comprehend? Its not any pressure from anyone, its me fucking coming online. I put up my speculation against Mockra and Driss being the 2 witches and Mockra being a symp. THERE IS YOUR FUCKING CONTENT, this case has no fucking merit on anything.

View PostRashan, on Jan 28 2009, 02:13 PM, said:

@ Silanah- would you mind putting forth some evidence as to why you think Shadow is a double vote symp please.



Here we have Rashan asking for the Shadow statement

Error in calculation, will post that up if you want but its irrelevant.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 02:41 PM, said:

Well I believed Ano to be a killer, not undead.
I thought Mockra and Shadow were symps based on how they acted during the Ano train.
With Mockra revealing as a witch and looking over the trains, i thought Shadow might be a double voting symp
Now i re read the voting and it doesn't add up :p



Sil decides to withdraw when he's facing some pressure. Suddenly he goes back to re-read what he has apparently just read and now the numbers don't add up. Another convenient excuse for suspicious behaviour. I would think if you were going to label someone a double symp you would make sure to properly count the votes you were basing the claim on.

Was a small error based on votes from 2 different people. Can't flame me for that. because I make a mistake you go at my throat? Make a better case next time.

View PostSilanah, on Jan 28 2009, 03:09 PM, said:

Two people that have fallen off my radar are Hood's Path and Galain. Can hardly remember any of their posts.
Might read up on them.


Now Sil reverses tack completely and fingers Galain and I for dropping of the radar. I find this strange as I had been posting at various times during the Mockra D'riss reveals and had posted not long before this statement. Once again he's pointing the finger at people for not posting when he hasn't been doing any posting himself. How can you continually draw attention to others, when you have very few posts and very little content in the posts you do have. It's a pretty scummy thing to do, if you can be busy at work or have issues with time zones then so can everyone else. He continues to make statements but does nothing to back them up or give any content of any kind. It throwing alot of suspicion on various people for no reason other than to deflect attention from himself.

Its funny how I dont remember anything you and Galain have said throughout the game, convenient for you, isn't it? Must not be much content in your posts it seems. You say I have not posted when we have similar post counts. Sick of this.


View PostSilanah, on Jan 29 2009, 04:00 AM, said:

4.5 hours left... I don't have any idea where this day went.
Ruse, you seem to bite back quite hard, never really thought much of you but that really makes me worried O.o
Im going to sleep and won't be back before day ends so I will leave my vote on Mockra.



Here he's jumping on Ruse for defending himself which seems odd to me as I'm not sure what else he would have expected Ruse to do. Note as well that he is going to be unnavailable to change his vote, so I assume we are supposed to excuse his actions if they end up looking less that straight forward. Also note that he has dropped the whole HP and Galain not being on his radar with absolutely no explanation or follow up.

When someone makes a big fuss over very little speculation, it usually screams scum. Just telling him to tone it down a little bit but I do know that he does play aggressively. You posted, good enough for me. Just because you fell off my radar does not mean I want to make a case against you when I voted for Mockra. I don't see why I need to even respond to this pathetic wall of text.

Overall I find Sil has the most convenient timing of any player in this game. He has very little activity and the activity he does have is just stating the obvious or lacks content entirely. He has pointed the finger at several people for not posting when he has failed to post himself. He mentions that he feels Shadow is a double symp out of the blue and then Shadow mysteriously ends up being lynched. He either says he's going to vote and then never reappears or votes and then tells us he won't be back in order to change it. He's acted strangely at the time of several lynches and his behaviour is all around scummy. He's managed to fly under the radar so far and do as little as possible, while casting blame on several others.

Convenient timing you say? Isn't my timing the thing you are condemning me on? My activity is the same as everyone else, just at a different time to them -.- Stating the obivous strenthens a point of something. When people hop on trains they say something like "Oh yes, he did do this and this, LYNCH HIM", that is stating to obvious, is it not? ONCE AGAIN I HAVE MORE POSTS THAN YOU, FAIL LESS! Shadow was killed not lynched, and I dropped that point because it was a mistake, why would I make speculation about symps being a killer myself? I would like you to point out the symps if you will considering you obviously did not feel Mockra was one. Lynches occur before I come back, the GL lynch was the only one I did not come back for, not my fault other people hoped aboard. How have I acted strangely? everyone acts differently... I have not being flying under everyones radar, basically everyone has said something about me at one point in time but has not made a case considering there is none to be found, as shown in your pathetic attempt. I could now post a case on you but that would be a waste of time as it would be an OMGUS case in most people eyes.


Any thoughts?


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