[Silanah]

Rashan, on Jan 29 2009, 08:25 PM, said:

Silanah, on Jan 29 2009, 08:23 PM, said:

Im off for a while to watch Resisdent Evil: Degeneration, might be checking the thread every 15 mins if im not too involved O.o

(cough) sucked (cough)

Really? I like cgi though so ill watch it anyway

[Silanah]

It wasn't that bad a movie O.o

[Rashan]

Silanah, on Jan 29 2009, 10:00 PM, said:

It wasn't that bad a movie O.o

If you say so. But way off base as far as the game, at least the first one sort of stayed true to the game. Just my opinion.

Edit: and I am out, until tomorrow.

This post has been edited by Rashan: 30 January 2009 - 03:48 AM

[Silanah]

nobody online all day once again -.-

[Path-Shaper]

it is Day 7, ~21.5 hours left

10 people are still alive (Hood's Path, Silanah, Thyrllan, Galain, Rashan, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, D'riss, Ruse)

takes 6 votes to lynch or 5 to go to night

2 votes Galain (Rashan, Silanah)
2 votes Silanah (Hood's Path, Thyrllan)

6 people have not voted (Galain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, D'riss, Ruse)

[Galain]

Well...

To be quite honest, I can't offer any defence against the accusations that I haven't contributed. Because I haven't. And as was pointed out I think non-contributors should be nailed. I had planned on being more active, but hey, shit happens. I wouldn't have a problem with being lynched for being generally useless, if that is the reason given for the lynch.

As for the other stuff...

I've completely changed my mind about the importance of CF to innocents. I'd read stuff that made sense to me elsewhere that suggested in theory that it shouldn't be more important, but from my experience in this game I'd definitely tell them to piss off.

I think most of the other bits are about me middle of the roading. I don't subscribe to the 'killers tend to be in the middle of the road' thing. I've found that the theory is so established that FMs tend to actively not be middle of the road, leaving all the people with natural middle of the road inclinations to be lynched. This is all WiFoM so, yeah.

As for voting Mockra while I thought he was inno. I thought he was more innocent than D'riss. And I thought one of them was a symp. And while I'd rather lynch a killer than a symp, there was no chance of lynching someone who was a killer. So I voted for a possible symp.

Now that we've lynched Mockra, I feel that we should follow through and lynch D'riss unless there is a better case at someone being a killer/necro.

vote D'riss

[Omtose]

Silanah, on Jan 30 2009, 01:09 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on Jan 29 2009, 06:49 PM, said:

@Serc If as you say you felt Liosan had the strongest case on day one, strong enough for you to vote for, why would you turn around and then say you suspect him because he pushed a case on an inno? So one muinute the case is strong and a good one, but the next you're pointing fingers at him because of it? You answer my questions about Tennes by saying he wasn't backing his posts up. That it the point I'm trying to make you weren't backing your statements or posts up either. Why would you call him out when you're doing the same thing.



Also I'm not disputing the fact that you had RL issues I did in fact state I believed you regrading the RL issue regarding your cat. That doesn't mean we shouldn't look at your actions and it doesn't explain your actions after you calimed the RL issues were cleared up. Why have you had so little content and why aren't you backing up your accusations of people or many of the statement you make? (I mean after the RL issues) You don't find it odd that you would just pop in and post you think Shadow is a double symp with no explanation whatsoever?

Edit for clarity

His case was the strongest FOR A DAY ONE CASE. If you don't think it is suspicious that someone leads a train on an inno then you are quite naive. Tennes posted shit all.. oh for fucks sake, not saying it again.

Right now, I don't see a lot in HP's case, they've been very thorough in reading everything and finding every little detail, but there just isn't much, although I must say, it's a very good first effort!

This response though made me cringe. It was the best day 1 case we had, there were no drunken slips, so of course in the end we follow it up. The only surprising thing about it was the speed with which it all came together.

And of course there's only a very small chance that you actually hit scum with such a case... but to then say we should think of the person who started it as suspicious straight away is an incentive to not make cases, especially if you're a roled inno, and we get one big passive party of people biting their nails. That what you want?

[Omtose]

Vote Galain

I like Rashan's case on Galain.
If you read back, you'll see that Liosan has me pegged as a must-lynch somewhere due my day 1 RP and my near exclusive focus on the cult, making me a potential pushy psycho (triple alliteration ftw!). I then added Galain to that list as well - day 1 RP and next to no solid contributions to scum finding, he admits it himself 2 posts or so above this one.

So, that could be a psycho laying low, hoping to avoid the radar after using day 1 RP for the exact same reason as I did: a gamble to become high profile on absolute nonsense, then fade away from the radar when something slightly more substantial comes up.

While I'll now vote Galain, I'd still like to see the Meanas case - if only to make sure that if you end up dead, we still have your thoughts on your second suspect (basically the same thing I said to Liosan regarding Meanas' case and quotage on GL).

[Ruse]

Ok...back and caught up.
Read the two cases, they are both very similar in a sense that they are both on people who have not been very active.
The silanah response is a bit more comprehensive, while galain seems pretty blasé about it all.

I noticed that Galain keeps telling the thread without much prompting from others that he has been having RL issues and self admitted low contributor. Now I dont know about anybody else but if i am an inno and i am having RL issues i dont really feel the need to keep telling the thread about it. I answer it when its brought up by others, but otherwise it doesnt seem that big of an issue that i need to keep saying it. I got the feeling that galain was doing this.
I have been a killer where i have also had no time to play. Now when this happens you feel this need to tell the thread constantly that "your sorry but blah blah blah, im very busy" etc etc...without anybody else even bringing it up


This is the only thing I see as being scummy, since really he hasnt done much at all. So there is not much to look at.
Its not solid by any means, but galain has been tickling my senses since the day one fiasco. especially since ˆhave noticed that Galain and Omtose still have not since day one ever looked at each other they seem to agree on almost everything though.
Its just strange to me.


edit - wooah, cross post...omtose actually just made me eat my final words right there.

This post has been edited by Ruse: 30 January 2009 - 08:46 AM

[Path-Shaper]

it is Day 7, 19 hours left

10 people are still alive (Hood's Path, Silanah, Thyrllan, Galain, Rashan, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, D'riss, Ruse)

takes 6 votes to lynch or 5 to go to night

3 votes Galain (Rashan, Silanah, Omtose)
2 votes Silanah (Hood's Path, Thyrllan)
1 vote D'riss (Galain)

6 people have not voted (Liosan, Meanas, D'riss, Ruse)

[Omtose]

Ruse, on Jan 30 2009, 09:45 AM, said:

edit - wooah, cross post...omtose actually just made me eat my final words right there.

Hehe, I have said Galain is a must-lynch in the same way I am since late day 3:D

[D'riss]

Morning. Will try to catch up asap but busy busy day today

[Ruse]

Omtose, on Jan 30 2009, 10:10 AM, said:

Ruse, on Jan 30 2009, 09:45 AM, said:

edit - wooah, cross post...omtose actually just made me eat my final words right there.

Hehe, I have said Galain is a must-lynch in the same way I am since late day 3:D

saying something and actually going through with it is two completely different things

[Omtose]

Ruse, on Jan 30 2009, 10:12 AM, said:

Omtose, on Jan 30 2009, 10:10 AM, said:

Ruse, on Jan 30 2009, 09:45 AM, said:

edit - wooah, cross post...omtose actually just made me eat my final words right there.

Hehe, I have said Galain is a must-lynch in the same way I am since late day 3:D

saying something and actually going through with it is two completely different things

Yup. It means that I'm aware of the need for team inno to remove people who's allegiance is highly uncertain, and agree to it.
I won't fight tooth and claw if that's the reason why people will vote for me - I brought that down on myself - but I will still try and falsify every case they can bring up, if only to provide maximum info.

[Galain]

Quote

I noticed that Galain keeps telling the thread without much prompting from others that he has been having RL issues and self admitted low contributor. Now I dont know about anybody else but if i am an inno and i am having RL issues i dont really feel the need to keep telling the thread about it. I answer it when its brought up by others, but otherwise it doesnt seem that big of an issue that i need to keep saying it. I got the feeling that galain was doing this.
I have been a killer where i have also had no time to play. Now when this happens you feel this need to tell the thread constantly that "your sorry but blah blah blah, im very busy" etc etc...without anybody else even bringing it up

Or maybe I just feel guilty about it because I made promises to make cases earlier in the game. Also, I'd like to point out that I am not you, so saying what you would do or how you would behave doesn't really make sense. Also I'm glad I don't play like you.

It may be blasé, but I'm just saying that I can legitimately see why people would want to lynch me for non0contribution. However when people start adding other stuff which is crap for the most part, I get annoyed.

[Galain]

Actually I'll tell you what. I know I'm innocent, and I know I haven't been any great help and I can't see this changing in future. In light of this, I'd rather get modkilled than have you people waste a lynch on me. Modkill for inactivity would take a while, but I'm willing to listen to suggestions as to how to go about it. Venomous personal attacks on Ruse would be a way I'd be happy to consider.

[D'riss]

Galain, on Jan 30 2009, 09:42 AM, said:

Actually I'll tell you what. I know I'm innocent, and I know I haven't been any great help and I can't see this changing in future. In light of this, I'd rather get modkilled than have you people waste a lynch on me. Modkill for inactivity would take a while, but I'm willing to listen to suggestions as to how to go about it. Venomous personal attacks on Ruse would be a way I'd be happy to consider.

Errr, how would that help us exactly? If you are inno you'd merely be helping the scum.

[Silanah]

@ Galain
If you were inno and you were asking us to leave you alone so you can be modkilled, that would only help scum. The first thing that comes to mind about that is the fact that if we dont lynch you today, you get to kill another night then come on tomorrow saying you are going to play

[Omtose]

Galain, on Jan 30 2009, 10:42 AM, said:

Actually I'll tell you what. I know I'm innocent, and I know I haven't been any great help and I can't see this changing in future. In light of this, I'd rather get modkilled than have you people waste a lynch on me. Modkill for inactivity would take a while, but I'm willing to listen to suggestions as to how to go about it. Venomous personal attacks on Ruse would be a way I'd be happy to consider.

Don't.
It has significant drawbacks.

1) you count towards the number of votes of required for lynch and night but can't vote without resetting the timer, essentially putting team inno 1 vote down and making a lynch harder to achieve;
2) you could be scum and post at 35:59 something like: I should be dead now, no? or fake you're drunk and couldn't stay away from your laptop and we'd either have to lynch you anyway or accept it's a mistake and accept the other drawbacks;
3) as long as you're in the game and have some time to post, do so;

You'd do team inno a greater favour by answering any questions regarding your suspects, your behaviour and thoughts on the way to your lynch, and try and destroy cases that portray you as scummy. Do anything you can that yields info, we sure as hell can use it further down the line... after all, in a game that doesn't have 23 people from the start, we would still be far removed from the end-game and can use every shred.

[Ruse]

Galain, on Jan 30 2009, 10:38 AM, said:

Quote

I noticed that Galain keeps telling the thread without much prompting from others that he has been having RL issues and self admitted low contributor. Now I dont know about anybody else but if i am an inno and i am having RL issues i dont really feel the need to keep telling the thread about it. I answer it when its brought up by others, but otherwise it doesnt seem that big of an issue that i need to keep saying it. I got the feeling that galain was doing this.
I have been a killer where i have also had no time to play. Now when this happens you feel this need to tell the thread constantly that "your sorry but blah blah blah, im very busy" etc etc...without anybody else even bringing it up

Or maybe I just feel guilty about it because I made promises to make cases earlier in the game. Also, I'd like to point out that I am not you, so saying what you would do or how you would behave doesn't really make sense. Also I'm glad I don't play like you.

It may be blasé, but I'm just saying that I can legitimately see why people would want to lynch me for non0contribution. However when people start adding other stuff which is crap for the most part, I get annoyed.

I am not talking about play style here, I am talking about the basic psychology of a killer.
There are certain things that go through all killers minds that dont go through inno's minds.
You were possibly showing signs of what a killer would do/think in a situation like that.