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Mafia 38: Haunted House Massacre (Game thread)

#2181 User is offline   Silanah 

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:09 AM

 Hood's Path, on Jan 29 2009, 06:49 PM, said:

@Serc If as you say you felt Liosan had the strongest case on day one, strong enough for you to vote for, why would you turn around and then say you suspect him because he pushed a case on an inno? So one muinute the case is strong and a good one, but the next you're pointing fingers at him because of it? You answer my questions about Tennes by saying he wasn't backing his posts up. That it the point I'm trying to make you weren't backing your statements or posts up either. Why would you call him out when you're doing the same thing.



Also I'm not disputing the fact that you had RL issues I did in fact state I believed you regrading the RL issue regarding your cat. That doesn't mean we shouldn't look at your actions and it doesn't explain your actions after you calimed the RL issues were cleared up. Why have you had so little content and why aren't you backing up your accusations of people or many of the statement you make? (I mean after the RL issues) You don't find it odd that you would just pop in and post you think Shadow is a double symp with no explanation whatsoever?

Edit for clarity


His case was the strongest FOR A DAY ONE CASE. If you don't think it is suspicious that someone leads a train on an inno then you are quite naive. Tennes posted shit all.. oh for fucks sake, not saying it again.

When I said Shadow might be a double voting symp did I vote for him? No, I dont vote for people unless either I have made a case or am following someone elses. I could pop in and say that I think you are a killer and not vote for you until ive constructed a case, couldn't I? After realizing my suspicions were wrong, I dismissed them. Talk shit more please, ive got nothing better to do.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:24 AM

 Silanah, on Jan 29 2009, 06:09 PM, said:

 Hood's Path, on Jan 29 2009, 06:49 PM, said:

@Serc If as you say you felt Liosan had the strongest case on day one, strong enough for you to vote for, why would you turn around and then say you suspect him because he pushed a case on an inno? So one muinute the case is strong and a good one, but the next you're pointing fingers at him because of it? You answer my questions about Tennes by saying he wasn't backing his posts up. That it the point I'm trying to make you weren't backing your statements or posts up either. Why would you call him out when you're doing the same thing.



Also I'm not disputing the fact that you had RL issues I did in fact state I believed you regrading the RL issue regarding your cat. That doesn't mean we shouldn't look at your actions and it doesn't explain your actions after you calimed the RL issues were cleared up. Why have you had so little content and why aren't you backing up your accusations of people or many of the statement you make? (I mean after the RL issues) You don't find it odd that you would just pop in and post you think Shadow is a double symp with no explanation whatsoever?

Edit for clarity


His case was the strongest FOR A DAY ONE CASE. If you don't think it is suspicious that someone leads a train on an inno then you are quite naive. Tennes posted shit all.. oh for fucks sake, not saying it again.

When I said Shadow might be a double voting symp did I vote for him? No, I dont vote for people unless either I have made a case or am following someone elses. I could pop in and say that I think you are a killer and not vote for you until ive constructed a case, couldn't I? After realizing my suspicions were wrong, I dismissed them. Talk shit more please, ive got nothing better to do.


Well I'm going to bring Tennes up again! There have been several times where you posted shit all! What if someone came on and said I think we should vote Silanah off in the first half hour because he's posted shit all? I'm sure you would question why they were pushing for the speed lynch. Why were you pushing for that, there were times where it was all you had to contribute. We could have voted him off at any time or waited for him to be mod killed while looking at someone else. How many of your posts were just you saying you were reading or you were going for the night? It's not just about the post count. Even if my post count is low I have stated several times that I think it's important to look at the content of the posts and give them a chance. I did say I thought Tennes might be new or having a hard time. I'm not disputing people post counts I'm just saying it's shady that alot of your posts are pointing fingers at people who are in the same boat as you count wise.

I never said you were voting for Shadow but why would you just say I think Shadow is a double symp and leave it at that. You never thought you shoud explain why you thought this to be the case? It's not like you were agreeing with a previous statement. This was the first time it had been mentioned! Turn it around if someone came on a said "I think Silanah is a double symp" and left it there you would find it strange too! You don't need to vote someone to make them look bad.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:28 AM

And now my case on Galain

For the first 20 or so posts there is nothing but spam and role-playing killer with Omtose. On his first post he votes for Kaschan but keeps it there because he advocates lynching the low posters. Bad becuse its early day 1 and he says its hard to lynch them later on. Notice that he only has 60 posts at the time I started this case. Now he gets a bit of flack for it and hops on the Serc train. Which built steam rather quickly, after some people mention their concern over speed he agrees and removes his vote and votes for D'riss. All the while saying he would rather go for a low poster. then this

 Galain, on Jan 22 2009, 12:52 AM, said:

@ Fener:

It's a weird feeling when you see that someone has found a code that you have put in one of your posts. I was actually quite intrigued to see what it might be, if I'd maybe subconsciously included some strange coding without realising it. Then I scrolled down, and it was urse? Colour me disappointed. If I were to put a code in it would be much better than that. I also found it quite funny though.

Based on a quick read through (my head is feeling better today, although I've got some stupid long meetings today) today, I'm quite happy to lay my vote down on one of the non-contributors, but I think I need to go read some more of the cases and possibly provide one of my own before settling for that.

For everyone not eating rice, I say aloud, beat all killers always. :)

The above quote was made on day 2. After Emu was NKed. and still he's going for non-contributors. this is about 35 posts in, and he only one case thus far. it was this one, where he voted D'riss on Day 1

 Galain, on Jan 20 2009, 04:21 PM, said:

Good night all.

I've decided to plump for D'riss.

remove vote

vote D'riss


1 part scummy impression I got from him
1 part mediocre contribution
1 part jumping on lynch trains
1 part Galain needing sleep


Now here is something quite scummy, both in a Necro way as well as a Killer way. The Bold is scummy in a killer way. The underlined bit is the Necro way, trying to analyze night kills is Wifom, unless you are trying to explain why YOU didn't recruit Kess.

 Galain, on Jan 23 2009, 12:36 AM, said:

So Kessobahn was telling the truth. I think I still disagree with his decision to reveal though. Not so much about losing CF, but I think the medium thing was quite potentially useful.

I'm unsure as to why Ampelas was killed, but I'm guessing that hit came from the killers, as Kesso was focusing mainly on the undead, and that probably made the creature have a go at him. What confuses me is why Kesso wasn't recruited. I can't think why a necro wouldn't extend a bit of recruitment that way considering he was such an obvious night kill. I'm puzzled.

I think that Kaschan seems to be suspicious based on Kesso's suspicions, but I want to have a look at Ampelas and see if there was any possible reason for it besides randomness.


Here he is backing up a little, he wanted to lynch low posters day 1 but now he says non-contributers, and only if there isn't a good case?

 Galain, on Jan 23 2009, 07:51 AM, said:

You're right about the reveal. I still don't quite comprehend why he would do that. Was it really worth it to reveal an undead, who may or may not be a necromancer? I think not.

I take your point about Silanah, but I feel that the best time to lynch non-contributors is when there isn't a good case against someone, and that is the usual day 1 situation.


This is the first mention of any suspect and I am about 50 posts in. Now what strikes me as odd, is the fact that he has never mentioned Ano, and never brought forth any kind of case (which to me is non-contribution). He says here he is going to finally get around to it.I skipped ahead and to date he hasn't made any case.

 Galain, on Jan 23 2009, 05:13 PM, said:

My view on Kaschan, to answer Shadow, is that I probably would have voted for him. I think I posted earlier that Kesso's suspicions meant he was surely worth looking at, and I think an OK case was made. I did agree with Kaschan to some extent on the degree to which he was essentially being fingered by the gut feelings from Kesso, but I really really disliked his defence of himself, and this more than anything made me feel that he would have been my vote choice. He would narrowly have beaten out Tennes because Tennes has been annoying me, and being essentially useless.

Those two were the two obvious candidates, but I also have suspicions around, I think, Anomandaris as a possible symp double voter if there is one in place. I recall from day 1 there were elements of his play style I felt were vaguely scummy, and he has done nothing to disengender those thoughts. I wouldn't have voted for him at that point as I haven't had the opportunity to see if there is the textual backing for such a case. I plan on doing so at some point over this weekend.


Next he is advocating not speed lynching and saying that Tennes appears scummy because of his mod kill avoid and his NON-CONTRIBUTION!

 Galain, on Jan 23 2009, 05:45 PM, said:

There isn't much point in keeping him around, but by the same token, there isn't much point in using a lynch on him. If we can accumulate evidence to construct a case on someone we should look to do so, and take our time to do so. If we can't source a case, Tennes is a good fallback option unless he should start providing something of worth.

I am slightly worried that the whole just beating the modkill things seems a bit scummy and a bit too much of a forced laying low, which is exacerbated by the non-content of the posts, and the seeming choice he is making to not contribute with what time he has available.


Now here is his response to me when I point out he was middle of the roading and hadn't been on a single lynch train. Defensive much?

 Galain, on Jan 24 2009, 01:51 AM, said:

@ Rashan: The main reason I haven't been on either of the last 2 lynch trains when I've agreed with both lynches is because people keep rushing through the lynches. I keep making the effort to come back a couple of hours before day end, and I always find myself sitting around at night. I'm not happy about this, I've said so before, and I'm not sure if it's happening because people can't seem to remember that there are double voters and are therefore hammering early, or because scummy people are trying to rush through lynches without making full use of the day.

I repeat myself, I said much the same thing all of about 1 page ago, and I'm not that pleased about being called out about something I already pointed out and explained and even complained about earlier.

Also, someone deserves a serious smakc for makign all the nights so long.


Next he admits he hasn't been contributing and explains why. By the way this was after the weekend break.

 Galain, on Jan 26 2009, 03:39 PM, said:

Hmmm, it happened again. I was wading through mountains of pages only to find that it's just turned night. I would probably have voted Anomandaris having read the case linking him with Fener, which ties in nicely with my gut feel about him, although I would have been happy to vote Galayn Lord to secure a lynch. No need of that now I guess.

I should probably apologise for being less than contributory, but a mixture of RL and having bitten off a bit more than I could chew mafia-wise have meant things are a little tricky to balance at the moment.

People really like early lynches and not sending in provisionals around here...


Now next I personally find scummy. He has continually been pissed at the length of night and quick days, and votes Ano because of the good case Lio made. Had he really been so suspicious (besides the brief mention earlier) wouldn't he have made a case?

 Galain, on Jan 27 2009, 07:24 AM, said:

vote Anomandaris

Something has been nagging at me about Ano for some time, and I think Liosan's massive case provides some foundation for my suspicions. I do worry slightly that I'm trying to look for something scummy on Ano but I think there is enough evidence holistically to suggest that there is something untoward going on with him.


Again explaining away his non contribution

 Galain, on Jan 27 2009, 03:09 PM, said:

Hmmm, I do realise that I haven't been a massive contributor. I think I posted last night trying to explain why.

Basically, through mostly my own fault I don't have as much time as I would like to play, and definitely not enough time to keep on top of a thread this gargantuan. Coupled with the fact that I seem to catch a large proportion of nights and you get me being a bit hypocritical, to be fair.

I'm not going to pretend it will change, but I do read these cases, even if I don't put forward my own.


Next is good reasoning, but Galain hasn't done this

 Galain, on Jan 27 2009, 03:56 PM, said:

@ Shadow

I think you need to realise there is a line between a growing suspicion and someone becoming a suspect.

I didn't say that we should go with the first train that made sense (and definitely nowhere near as quick as this one has gone). I'm just saying that among the potential reasons for someone voting for someone else and trying to sway the lynch includes scummy protectionism. It also includes investigation of alternative options but I think people need(ed) to find better cases for alternatives.


Bold is mine

 Galain, on Jan 29 2009, 02:35 AM, said:

OK, sorry for my scarceness. It's explainable but I won't bore you with that here.

My thoughts on the reveal and counter-reveal are that: the supposed wisdom I've been told is that you lynch the both of them, starting with the initial revealer. However, I'm not sure this works as well as it should when there is no CF.

My worry, however, is that one of them, probably D'riss, could be a symp, and that he could be playing on the perceived wisdom to ensure that we lynch two people, one of them innocent (I think of Mockra as perhaps innocent at the moment due to the way he's been acting recently), which would buy time for more kills if they're a psycho symp, or more conversions if they're symping any remaining necros.

I'd like to steer away from voting symps, I don't think it really helps, and as long as people continue to flag likely symps it shouldn't be a problem.

But that leaves the question of where to drop my vote. I haven't been able to keep on top of the thread anywhere near as much as I would have hoped. I see Ruse is the highest out of everyone else, but I wouldnt have any reason to vote for him save his occassional abrasiveness. I'm a little stuck.


He votes Ruse as OMGUS (Ruse said he was suspect and then removes after Ruse explains but again note the bold (WIFOM, but still)

 Galain, on Jan 29 2009, 04:01 AM, said:

@ Ruse: my vote isn't a serious vote. It's a vote to put pressure on you to explain yourself. Which you have (sort of) by saying it was gut feel.

remove vote

The thing is that I'm not happy about having aspersions thrown about my person when they have no basis in fact and not providing any reason as to why you think someone is suspicious provides no recourse to answer the 'case'.

And throwing names out consistently as suspect could easily be seen as trying to make people more easily lynchable. It's scummy.

However, I agree with you strongly on the whole question of symps, and that we should ignore the reveals as it is more likely to be a symp reveal than someone actually worth lynching.

You're getting majorly majorly defensive, which is making me reconsider the vote removal though.

And I saw you voted for Shadow but not one of us, but Shadow is not ticking any of my suspect boxes at the moment, whereas you are and have been.


Finally his last post, to date, he thinks Mockra is probably inno, and won't place a vote on the unlynchable so may as well get the lynch (middle of the roading again?)

 Galain, on Jan 29 2009, 07:08 AM, said:

Hmmm. While I think that we shouldn't be looking to lynch a symp at this point, there haven't been (m)any cases made besides the revealers today.

I would've liked to look towards making a case but I just haven't had time.


With time ticking away, it doesn't make sense to place a vote on anyone without votes without having a decent case to back it up with. Which leaves Ruse, Mockra and D'riss. I don't think Ruse is guilty despite all his fire and bukkake, and I am more inclined to trust Mockra than D'riss. However, D'riss only has one vote on him, and looks unlikely to be lynched.

So I

vote Mockra

with the proviso that should people start putting weight behind D'riss's train, I'd be more than willing to jump on board.


Having done all of that, I will now

Vote Galain

I'll get to Meanas later.

Edit Moved from the top of the page because it broke up HP's case. Thyr, not eve gonna comment on this, just gonna hop on the train....thats not scummy...not at all.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:35 AM

As a matter of fact i have considerably less time than I would like.
And yet, I still believe I gave reasons no?

1. Seems contradictory in some stuff he says, such as pushing tennes so much while not doing much himself.
2. My main thing with him: He just seems non-commital. He's changing who he thinks scummy a lot, not settling, not really pushing much, hust sort of vaguely saying "Yeah, I think X is scummy, a bit".
3. Dismisses cases rather than asnwer.
4. Doesn't comment/ignores things.

Not all of us post 3 pages to justify one vote :)

This post has been edited by Thyrllan: 30 January 2009 - 12:36 AM


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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:38 AM

 Hood's Path, on Jan 29 2009, 04:36 PM, said:

 Silanah, on Jan 26 2009, 03:33 AM, said:

3 vote for Galayn Lord (Liosan, Omtose, Meanas, Hood's Path, Korlat, Shadow)
That definitely is 3 votes.

I'm going to go read up on the GL cases and decide if I want to hop aboard :)



Here we go again a nothing post stating the obvious. I'm sure we all know that three votes is definitely three votes. Why bother posting that? Especially after you accuse people of not having content in their posts.



Hp, I really appreciate the effort and in no way am I defending Sil, but did you read this? Sil was quoting that there were 6 voters and the count said 3 ....do you see it? This kind of to me ruins your point, because it doesn't appear that you took your time and worked on the case, more like you went post by post looking for (and thinking you found) scum sign. Let me be very clear here, its an excellent first case, but what you've done in the above is known as strawmanning. Taking every post and turned it into your own interpretation. Now I am again not telling you to stop making cases, and I understand its hard to make a case while working, but they really need to be accurate. the above is just an example of an inaccuracy. Please don't take this as a scolding, just a tip for future cases.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:41 AM

 Thyrllan, on Jan 29 2009, 07:35 PM, said:

As a matter of fact i have considerably less time than I would like.
And yet, I still believe I gave reasons no?

1. Seems contradictory in some stuff he says, such as pushing tennes so much while not doing much himself.
2. My main thing with him: He just seems non-commital. He's changing who he thinks scummy a lot, not settling, not really pushing much, hust sort of vaguely saying "Yeah, I think X is scummy, a bit".
3. Dismisses cases rather than asnwer.
4. Doesn't comment/ignores things.

Not all of us post 3 pages to justify one vote :)



Wasn't saying that, just would have been nice to get your opinion on my (short) case on Galain. And fuck off, you had time to read through HP's case, WTF? I feel slighted

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:41 AM

No offence taken! I understand what you were saying, I was having a hard time reading all of his posts and people's responses plus posting my case in between patients. Please disregard that portion of my case then. I assumed he was just stating the obvious but I see now he wasn't. My mistake, thank you for pointing it out, I don't want to twist his post's meaning if that's clearly not what he meant. Again please disregard that portion of my case.

Edit for clarity

This post has been edited by Hood's Path: 30 January 2009 - 12:42 AM


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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:44 AM

 Rashan, on Jan 30 2009, 12:41 AM, said:

 Thyrllan, on Jan 29 2009, 07:35 PM, said:

As a matter of fact i have considerably less time than I would like.
And yet, I still believe I gave reasons no?

1. Seems contradictory in some stuff he says, such as pushing tennes so much while not doing much himself.
2. My main thing with him: He just seems non-commital. He's changing who he thinks scummy a lot, not settling, not really pushing much, hust sort of vaguely saying "Yeah, I think X is scummy, a bit".
3. Dismisses cases rather than asnwer.
4. Doesn't comment/ignores things.

Not all of us post 3 pages to justify one vote :)



Wasn't saying that, just would have been nice to get your opinion on my (short) case on Galain. And fuck off, you had time to read through HP's case, WTF? I feel slighted

Opinion forthcoming.
I read HPs case a while back.
When it was early, and I wasn't procrastinating my homework(so much :p)

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:47 AM

@ HP
If someone said that, I wouldn't care. Just make me post more which was my general threat towards Tennes. I didn't need to make a case against Shadow at that current point of time, whats the fucking point of that? Stop complaining about insignificant nothingness, getting sick of your crying. If someone said it against me, they can think that if they want but they had no case so why would I need to respond. They would obviously have a reason but do not want to make accusations while they feel someone is a better lynch for the day.

@ Thy
Did you even read my response? So far i think there has been the case made by Ano against me which was not strong, said by himself too. Any other suspicions about me have been left behind for a reason -.-
I don't know why you would hop on the train. Only possible reason i can think of is that you are a symp and HP is your master but its not a time to debate that idea now -.-

Edit: Removed the quote O.o

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:49 AM

 Hood's Path, on Jan 29 2009, 07:41 PM, said:

No offence taken! I understand what you were saying, I was having a hard time reading all of his posts and people's responses plus posting my case in between patients. Please disregard that portion of my case then. I assumed he was just stating the obvious but I see now he wasn't. My mistake, thank you for pointing it out, I don't want to twist his post's meaning if that's clearly not what he meant. Again please disregard that portion of my case.

Edit for clarity



And one more tip. LARGE cases are cool, but you don't have to quote every post (Unless you are vengeance , who makes super long and complicated posts, and hurts the brains). Its okay to summerize events in your initial case, and if the person you are going after thinks you made it up, go dig up the quote. Also, you don't play like a noob, but you said you were. If you are lying I will vig you, nk you or lynch your ass from now on. I am explaining this like you are a noob, you better not be making me look like a fool, I do that enough by myself! :)

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:50 AM

My opinion:

The main scummy things I see there is that he attacks low posters, while at the same time admitting he's not contributing much.
Contradiction there.
He is very middle of the road.
Also his comment about not being unhappy about losing CF made me go WTF?!
Losing CF is a massive blow to the innocents, because it screws up finding connections since you dont know if the people you're connecting to are inno or not etc, and makes everything much harder.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:52 AM

 Silanah, on Jan 29 2009, 07:47 PM, said:

Edit: Removed the quote O.o



Sil, symps fake symp as well. and who knows, maybe Thyr is distancing. Fair is fair after all. And you haven't said yet what you think of my case, nor who you think is scum.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:52 AM

 Silanah, on Jan 29 2009, 06:47 PM, said:

I never said you were voting for Shadow but why would you just say I think Shadow is a double symp and leave it at that. You never thought you shoud explain why you thought this to be the case? It's not like you were agreeing with a previous statement. This was the first time it had been mentioned! Turn it around if someone came on a said "I think Silanah is a double symp" and left it there you would find it strange too! You don't need to vote someone to make them look bad.


@ HP
If someone said that, I wouldn't care. Just make me post more which was my general threat towards Tennes. I didn't need to make a case against Shadow at that current point of time, whats the fucking point of that? Stop complaining about insignificant nothingness, getting sick of your crying. If someone said it against me, they can think that if they want but they had no case so why would I need to respond. They would obviously have a reason but do not want to make accusations while they feel someone is a better lynch for the day.

@ Thy
Did you even read my response? So far i think there has been the case made by Ano against me which was not strong, said by himself too. Any other suspicions about me have been left behind for a reason -.-
I don't know why you would hop on the train. Only possible reason i can think of is that you are a symp and HP is your master but its not a time to debate that idea now -.-



I'm not crying, I never said you had to make a whole case regarding Shadow but at least give a small reason why. One sentence saying I think Shadow is a double symp beacuse... would have done it. That's not a whole case! If you're sick of hearing from me then fine I'm done! I was just wanting a satisfactory response.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:53 AM

 Silanah, on Jan 30 2009, 12:47 AM, said:

@ HP
If someone said that, I wouldn't care. Just make me post more which was my general threat towards Tennes. I didn't need to make a case against Shadow at that current point of time, whats the fucking point of that? Stop complaining about insignificant nothingness, getting sick of your crying. If someone said it against me, they can think that if they want but they had no case so why would I need to respond. They would obviously have a reason but do not want to make accusations while they feel someone is a better lynch for the day.

@ Thy
Did you even read my response? So far i think there has been the case made by Ano against me which was not strong, said by himself too. Any other suspicions about me have been left behind for a reason -.-
I don't know why you would hop on the train. Only possible reason i can think of is that you are a symp and HP is your master but its not a time to debate that idea now -.-

Edit: Removed the quote O.o

Yes I read your response.
It seemed very agressive for someone who thinks that the case on them is an utter load of rubbish, and no threat whatsoever.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:53 AM

Parents.
Goodnight.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:54 AM

 Thyrllan, on Jan 29 2009, 07:50 PM, said:

My opinion:

The main scummy things I see there is that he attacks low posters, while at the same time admitting he's not contributing much.
Contradiction there.
He is very middle of the road.
Also his comment about not being unhappy about losing CF made me go WTF?!
Losing CF is a massive blow to the innocents, because it screws up finding connections since you dont know if the people you're connecting to are inno or not etc, and makes everything much harder.


Then what is it about Sil that strikes you as more scummy? And no, I am not begging for votes on my case here (I made a case against a confirmed medium, as well as an unconfirmed witch, sort of, I pushed for that one), I just want to see that I don't have tunnel vision on Galain.

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 12:56 AM

@ Rashan
Only skimmed over your case so far, been spending time responding to HP

@ HP
Shadow is a symp because he is symping Ano, happy?

@ Thy
Was getting pissed off at the same fucking points over and over again, thats what happens with large cases. He brings up the same points that other people make that are not strong. If someone else puts a vote on me, im going to have to defend myself some more and get more aggressive. This is the only time I have defended myself this game so whats to say Ive become aggressive about it?

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 01:10 AM

 Silanah, on Jan 29 2009, 06:08 PM, said:

More to come shortly.....


Part one of your defense makes sense,

 Silanah, on Jan 29 2009, 06:28 PM, said:

I was thinking about making a case on Tennes but of course, there was really nothing to be found.

 Silanah, on Jan 21 2009, 10:30 PM, said:

Dead thread is dead
Well I went back over some of the posts and this is the one which stood out for me

 Meanas, on Jan 21 2009, 11:03 AM, said:

Also to whom ever asked if the killers could be recruited. Think about it. Uhhh NO they couldn't. If their symps can't be recruited then the killers definately can't. We don't need to have every little thing spelled out for all of us do we.


Why is he certain they cannot be recruited? Maybe he is a killer himself and was recruited for all we know. Nothing has led us to believe that killers cannot be recruited as it only states so for the symps, not killers. The same could be thought for twins as they know each other but that wouldn't leave many people that are able to be recruited.
Might be a good idea for me to start looking at some of his posts.



Here is the whole of the case he's come up with after all of that reading. The only thing he has is that Meanas seems supicious for being certaing the killers can't be recruited. At this time there was a case being built on Kesso, but he ignores that completely and he's gone again.

Meanas was making assumptions, so I pointed it out. Nothing wrong with that. Do you feel it is not content that I suspect Meanas of being a killer that was recruited? Starting to see a pattern of cases against me that have no merit, therefore, never follow through.
More to come


Part 2 - This needs more explanation, the posts appear to be chronilogical, and you jumped, without an explanation

 Silanah, on Jan 29 2009, 06:44 PM, said:

More to come...

Part 3 - Fine but alot of anger, I understand, alot of repetition.

 Silanah, on Jan 29 2009, 06:44 PM, said:

More to come...


 Silanah, on Jan 29 2009, 07:05 PM, said:

Final one :) Getting sick of this charade

 Silanah, on Jan 28 2009, 04:02 AM, said:

Any thoughts?


/fail case


Could do with less anger here, but I do see your side, my vote stays, but if you keep picking on the noob, I will switch, just to get you lynched, you know who I am now, and you had to see that coming. :p

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 01:23 AM

Sorry for the wait, was writing an email O.o
As I stated yesterday, Galain has been off my radar for a while now and I was going to read up on him and maybe make a case today but Rashan has already done that for me :)
After reading that case, I was amazed that he really does seem to have maybe even less content than me. He seems to be hiding and not stiring up any dust. I found it weird that he voted Mockra thinking he was inno, doesn't totally add up. I feel he is just jumping on the train to try not be suspicious.
With that
Vote Galain

Im off for a while to watch Resisdent Evil: Degeneration, might be checking the thread every 15 mins if im not too involved O.o

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 01:25 AM

 Silanah, on Jan 29 2009, 08:23 PM, said:

Im off for a while to watch Resisdent Evil: Degeneration, might be checking the thread every 15 mins if im not too involved O.o


(cough) sucked (cough)

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