[Mockra]

 D'riss, on Jan 28 2009, 11:02 AM, said:

 Meanas, on Jan 28 2009, 03:54 PM, said:

 Mockra, on Jan 28 2009, 03:42 PM, said:

if you believed that i'm a witch, than yes, once I use my power, I become RI

same with D'riss, if he's tellingt he truth, lol

Is that good crack rock your smoking. How in gods green earth can you possibly think that we will think that you are a RI. I wouldn't trust my mom in mafia (she is devious in her old age) much less RI her. We have no CF cause you or dumber decided not to use your BP to make sure that we kept a revealed medium (nobody counter that day) alive. Kaschan's lynch can be called a direct result of that mistake.

Seriously Mockra/Driss which ever one of you is the true witch didn't you think that Fener might have something to say to Kesso that night. Didn't you think that for every day we kept him around would be a good day for the innocents. Cause it says in the rules that when the medium dies so does the bloody CF. Instead you just decide to blow your load over the weekend (Driss) cause that was a really good time to use it. End rant.


Edited for spelling

Calm down sunshine, I've already admitted it was a mistake, wtf can I do about it now?

 Mockra, on Jan 28 2009, 03:56 PM, said:

@ D'riss
you're conveniently omitting that the "pressure" on me consisted of Ruse saying "you might be a symp"
and I announced that I have a role and I will reveal before your mini-case.

so, "symp cracking under pressure" theory needs some work... since your evidence is fairly weak.

I stated it wasn't the best evidence in the world but you still felt the need to reveal (falsely I still claim).

ffs, i said I was gonna reveal before you did it.
I was hoping to wait for more people to show up, so that people would actually read the reasoning behind my reveal, not just skim through it.

[Meanas]

 Shadow, on Jan 28 2009, 05:00 PM, said:

I'm here

Great what do you think of this circle jerk we have going on here.

[Ruse]

 Mockra, on Jan 28 2009, 05:02 PM, said:

 Ruse, on Jan 28 2009, 11:01 AM, said:

 Mockra, on Jan 28 2009, 04:56 PM, said:

ahem
I stated why I revealed
not knowing that night 3 lack of kills was due to another witch, I assumed the cult/scum/inno distribution to be 4:2:6

in this situation, a poor lynch would lead to a cult victory.
I felt it necessary to bring that fact to people's attention, and to explain why I think that, required a reveal.

You do know that the cult need to be majority over EVERYONE...not just the innos

So a bad lynch would make it 4:2:4...

still fine cause its essentially 4:6

bad lynch would give necros ability to recruit another night
making it 5:2:3
which is one lynch away from a loss

Still not a loss...so not dire

[Mockra]

clearly
but I felt that people should have at least been aware that a bad lynch could end the game.

[Meanas]

 Mockra, on Jan 28 2009, 05:03 PM, said:

 D'riss, on Jan 28 2009, 11:02 AM, said:

 Meanas, on Jan 28 2009, 03:54 PM, said:

 Mockra, on Jan 28 2009, 03:42 PM, said:

if you believed that i'm a witch, than yes, once I use my power, I become RI

same with D'riss, if he's tellingt he truth, lol

Is that good crack rock your smoking. How in gods green earth can you possibly think that we will think that you are a RI. I wouldn't trust my mom in mafia (she is devious in her old age) much less RI her. We have no CF cause you or dumber decided not to use your BP to make sure that we kept a revealed medium (nobody counter that day) alive. Kaschan's lynch can be called a direct result of that mistake.

Seriously Mockra/Driss which ever one of you is the true witch didn't you think that Fener might have something to say to Kesso that night. Didn't you think that for every day we kept him around would be a good day for the innocents. Cause it says in the rules that when the medium dies so does the bloody CF. Instead you just decide to blow your load over the weekend (Driss) cause that was a really good time to use it. End rant.


Edited for spelling

Calm down sunshine, I've already admitted it was a mistake, wtf can I do about it now?

No but I have been saving that up since he died. I thought that I you would only get to see it in SH but here you are so there you go.

[Ruse]

 Mockra, on Jan 28 2009, 05:07 PM, said:

clearly
but I felt that people should have at least been aware that a bad lynch could end the game.

Well...if everybody is playing the WCS (as you put it) , as we all should.
We could have worked it out for ourselves without your reveal.
The reveal itself is not necessary, you could have just said it hypothetically.

[Shadow]

Initial thoughts. I don't think there would be 2 witches. Though he sounds reasonable enough, of the 2 I think Mockra is the Symp. D'riss sounds more believable imo.

I think symp at worst because, if you notice all we have taklked about today is D'riss or Mockra. Convenient.

Honestly though, even if he is Symp.... I would tend to want to leave him around. i'm going to go back and look at who was under pressure, or promised to be, under pressure today.

Hell, you could both be recruits that are throwing up a smoke screen for your Necro master.. though the level of coordination that would take without off thread convo would be amazing

Off th etop of my head today I said I was going to look at Galain, and Sil. Rashan said he wanted to look at Mockra, and D'riss was on everyone's list.

I need to go back and reread the circumstances of the reveal again.

who was first? Mockra said he was roled....D'riss revealed witch, then Mockra countered is that correct?

[Shadow]

Oh yeah, and I agree. one of you really screwed the pooch by not saving Kess after his reveal. Big mistake. Not as big as Morgo's.. but big . ok, sorry had to say it.

[Mockra]

no
I said I was roled will reveal later

Ruse went on for 10 posts sayign that i'm a symp and how stupid of me it was to say that if not

D'riss said "well that sounds very fishyI think he's scum"

I revealed witch

D'riss counterrevealed and voted.

edited to fix the quote marks

This post has been edited by Mockra: 28 January 2009 - 04:19 PM

[Meanas]

 Shadow, on Jan 28 2009, 05:16 PM, said:

Initial thoughts. I don't think there would be 2 witches. Though he sounds reasonable enough, of the 2 I think Mockra is the Symp. D'riss sounds more believable imo.

I think symp at worst because, if you notice all we have taklked about today is D'riss or Mockra. Convenient.

Honestly though, even if he is Symp.... I would tend to want to leave him around. i'm going to go back and look at who was under pressure, or promised to be, under pressure today.

Hell, you could both be recruits that are throwing up a smoke screen for your Necro master.. though the level of coordination that would take without off thread convo would be amazing

Off th etop of my head today I said I was going to look at Galain, and Sil. Rashan said he wanted to look at Mockra, and D'riss was on everyone's list.

I need to go back and reread the circumstances of the reveal again.

who was first? Mockra said he was roled....D'riss revealed witch, then Mockra countered is that correct?

No Mockra said he was roled. People were giving him shit so he revealed witch, then D'riss countered.

I have been trying to see who Mockra could be drawing attention away from or D'riss for that matter. Nobody was under pressure from votes. Either one of them could be a Necro recruit trying to come off as a symp or vice versa.

[Meanas]

 Shadow, on Jan 28 2009, 05:18 PM, said:

Oh yeah, and I agree. one of you really screwed the pooch by not saving Kess after his reveal. Big mistake. Not as big as Morgo's.. but big . ok, sorry had to say it.

Don't be sorry. One of them deserve it. I am not sorry for my rant. You shouldn't be sorry for telling someone that they made a stupid move that might have cost the us the game.

[Shadow]

thank you.

Here is what I find odd. Mockra why did you assume that D'riss was also a witch. Your first thought was . "hhmmm 2 witches." not "He's a scummy liar!" In a "Noob friendly game" that doesn't compute.

[Hood's Path]

 Mockra, on Jan 28 2009, 10:07 AM, said:

clearly
but I felt that people should have at least been aware that a bad lynch could end the game.

Would it not have made more sense for you to wait until you saw us starting to head in the wrong direction or getting a train going on what you percieived to be a bad lynch before revealing? There was no real activity on our part that would have suggested we were going to make a bad lynch. In fact there was very little activity at all when you decided to drop this bomb on us.

Edit typo

This post has been edited by Hood's Path: 28 January 2009 - 04:24 PM

[Ruse]

Alright, now before i get accused again of "being in the middle of the road" and not voting because i am "non comital" or whatever other shit you can suck out of your thumbs.

I am not placing a vote right now because there is a lot of time left. And i would much rather try and find a killer than lynch a symp without at least some discussion from EVERYONE first.

SO...if the rest of you are going to lynch someone while i am gone dont come fucking crying to me because i didnt place a vote. you keep taking the opportunity away from me by shortening the days, and then accuse me of being scum afterwards which is fucked up.

Ive said this before, and ill say it again.
Its like a girl stealing the money out of her dates wallet when he's gone to the toilet and then bitching because he didnt pay the bill.

There are double voters out there...I will place a vote when i am more sure and there has been greater usage of our time.

Ruse OUT

This post has been edited by Ruse: 28 January 2009 - 04:25 PM

[Mockra]

because I didn't think about TMDI
this was origianlly a high TMDI game that Gaving and JA then reworked to make it n00b friendly

and he claimed to have acted night 3, which would explain the no kill thing-- I mean, I had to send PS a PM asking if they got my "no action" PM the night before whne it happened, lol.

[D'riss]

Well, I'm here for another half hour or so, if you have anything specific you want to ask me I will be completely honest. Can't think of any other way to prove my innocence and of course you won't necessarily believe me.

And as Ruse and Shadow see more value in having Mockra around for the moment, I will

Remove Vote

Barring disaster I will be back long before day times out and can use my vote in the most beneficial way.

[Shadow]

 Hood's Path, on Jan 28 2009, 08:23 AM, said:

 Mockra, on Jan 28 2009, 10:07 AM, said:

clearly
but I felt that people should have at least been aware that a bad lynch could end the game.

Would it not have made more sense for you to wait until you saw us starting to head in the wrong direction or getting a train going on what you percieived to be a bad lynch before revealing? There was no real activity on our part that would have suggested we were going to make a bad lynch. In fact there was very little activity at all when you decided to drop this bomb on us.

Edit typo

Thats what I don't get. We were lost as it is. (well I am anyway.. I feel like I am in a card game holding my cards backwards and can't see anyone else's hands )

What is the point of the reveal. The day had just started. Discussion had barely begun.

It was either Boredom by a symp, confusion by a symp, or just a really really bad inno move. All of those are lynchable offenses.

This post has been edited by Shadow: 28 January 2009 - 04:31 PM

[Rashan]

Well, I for one am glad that everyone is ignoring Mockra! I mean, this isn't steering the game? Really? Every other post has been a question to or a response from a major liability. Lynch one, then the other. Same mafia techniques that worked for years, hold true today.

[Mockra]

 Hood's Path, on Jan 28 2009, 11:23 AM, said:

 Mockra, on Jan 28 2009, 10:07 AM, said:

clearly
but I felt that people should have at least been aware that a bad lynch could end the game.

Would it not have made more sense for you to wait until you saw us starting to head in the wrong direction or getting a train going on what you percieived to be a bad lynch before revealing? There was no real activity on our part that would have suggested we were going to make a bad lynch. In fact there was very little activity at all when you decided to drop this bomb on us.

Edit typo

as far as i was concerned, both lynching Kas and Ano was wrong direction. but how many of you would honestly listen if I said that yesterday, without calling me a cult?

as for the large majority of the people remaining, I've had almost 0 leads.
so Idecided it might be good to let other people know what I perceived I knew, since someone else could ahve possibly made more sense of it.
clearly, in retrospect, if D'riss is telling the truth, it wasn't the best decision. but it seemed good at the time.

[Mockra]

 Shadow, on Jan 28 2009, 11:28 AM, said:

 Hood's Path, on Jan 28 2009, 08:23 AM, said:

 Mockra, on Jan 28 2009, 10:07 AM, said:

clearly
but I felt that people should have at least been aware that a bad lynch could end the game.

Would it not have made more sense for you to wait until you saw us starting to head in the wrong direction or getting a train going on what you percieived to be a bad lynch before revealing? There was no real activity on our part that would have suggested we were going to make a bad lynch. In fact there was very little activity at all when you decided to drop this bomb on us.

Edit typo

Thats what I don't get. We were lost as it is. (well I am anyway.. I feel like I am in a card game holding my cards backwards and can't see anyone else's hands )

What is the point of the reveal. The day had just started. Discussion had barely begun.

It was either Boredom by a symp, confusion by a symp, or just a really really bad inno move. All of those are lynchable defenses.

you mean offences, surely?
and yes, it may have been a poor move. I haven't been having the best of games anyhow.