Malazan Empire: Mafia 38: Haunted House Massacre (Game thread) - Malazan Empire

Jump to content

  • 126 Pages +
  • « First
  • 98
  • 99
  • 100
  • 101
  • 102
  • Last »
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Mafia 38: Haunted House Massacre (Game thread)

#1981 User is offline   Omtose 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 9
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 05:39 PM

View PostMockra, on Jan 28 2009, 06:35 PM, said:

actually, the silanah thing was me, for the sake of accuracy.
when i was asked about who my suspects would be.
it's not strong, but hen again, few things are, right now.

I'm glad that someone else out there can at least entertain the possibilty of there being two witches.

that being said, i've got classes now. back in 3-4 hours. Do try to avoid lynching someone untill i get back, plz

Okidoki. I won't edit the post above yours, but for fairness:

Please omit the stuff about Silanah from post 1979.

#1982 User is offline   Shadow 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 19
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 05:49 PM

Omtose, why would you want an investigation on D'riss and Mockra? Thats just a bad mistake. (hypnotoad psycic person please don't do that) They would just come back inno. If you think a Killer is going to blatently call down this kind of pressure on themselves you are nuts. SOP is to lynch both claimants. Killers know this. Why would they do that?

#1983 User is offline   Shadow 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 19
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 05:52 PM

View PostThyrllan, on Jan 28 2009, 09:05 AM, said:

Liosan seems to have dropped completely off the radar.



Minus the Spamming from yesterday, the same could be said about you :respect:

#1984 User is offline   Shadow 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 19
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 06:05 PM

View PostOmtose, on Jan 28 2009, 09:27 AM, said:

Oki, I caught up.

two things need adressing:

1. the two witches. I think it is not totally fucked-up that we have 2 of them, operating independently, especially not since the game swelled to a gigantic size, and team inno probably already had 2 finders. All things considered, even if it is a blanket kill & recruit stop, there are also 2 possible NKs (vigs excluded) in the game, and the chance that 2 independent ones might fire theirs on the same night when things get hairy. Lastly, they'd also hinder the Medium on account of there being no dead guy to ask answers of.

Doesn't mean that I'd legitimize both reveals, but their story is not directly conflicting either - I guess I hope our Psychic mindreader-hypnotist(s) are actively investigating them tonight.
As such, I do find it complete and utter bull to now lynch either of them to test their reveal. There's no CF to tell us anything, after all.

Also, we have to examine who would reveal like this and get away with it - we currently have lynched a psycho and one undead (probably a recruit) and then, imho, most or all necros. The Creature wouldn't reveal like this, and I doubt a final necromancer would - same for the psycho's - so that means either a recruit or a symp and neither can win the game on their own.

2. Ruse. I see you fingering a LOT of people. Casting doubt here and there - see my reaction above for a gross error (if I'm positive) or deliberate misrepresentation (if I'm negative) on your part. You've also called Mockra a symp, pushing his half reveal, now calling attention to D'riss, naming Galain and oh, wait, Silanah too, I think.

Never presenting a definate case.

I name thee symp, and since I don't have a whole lot better to do right now:

Vote Ruse.



Why are you voting for a suspected symp? Who is he protecting? Who hasn't he fingered. (get your mind out of the gutter!)

#1985 User is offline   Liosan 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 92
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 06:24 PM

View PostThyrllan, on Jan 28 2009, 05:05 PM, said:

Liosan seems to have dropped completely off the radar.


actually if you read my posts you will see that i was off work today and so don't have internet access. I am currently in my in laws using their computer to check the thread.

As for the two reveals, if mockra was a symp why didnt he jump on ano's train yesterday? If driss is a symp what would he hope to achieve revealing? Mockra though came to emurlahn's defence day 1 when some pressure was put on him, so if one is a symp it would be him. Again though we are faced with the possibility of two recruits on either night 3 or last night so we could be in trouble. Sadly i am an advocate of the lynch both camp, we cant risk them being recruited and it is likely that if we don't we will be forced to lynch one tomorrow as we cannot be sure of their allegiance then.

Two witches though possible if not in a role heavy team is possible, but we definitely have two double voters (lynch 1), a medium, a witch and more than likely a finder(possible loss of cf demands it). Thats a strong inno team, without even a guard or a vig let alone a second witch. For there to be two witches one would have to be a symp, now that isnt as odd as it sounds, because they dont have to use it to protect people but it would stop them dying by the hand of their master.

I will leave voting to others, i am unsure what way to look at this, and don't have time to properly examine the last few days to see what motivated this reveal. If i was going to vote i would vote mockra, there is a possibility they are a witch, but i am unsure. I will be back on in the morning when i am back in the office.

#1986 User is offline   Liosan 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 92
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 06:29 PM

there are still 20 hours left, i will be on before end of day, talk to you lot tomorrow.

#1987 User is offline   Omtose 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 9
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 06:31 PM

View PostShadow, on Jan 28 2009, 07:05 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on Jan 28 2009, 09:27 AM, said:

Oki, I caught up.

two things need adressing:

1. the two witches. I think it is not totally fucked-up that we have 2 of them, operating independently, especially not since the game swelled to a gigantic size, and team inno probably already had 2 finders. All things considered, even if it is a blanket kill & recruit stop, there are also 2 possible NKs (vigs excluded) in the game, and the chance that 2 independent ones might fire theirs on the same night when things get hairy. Lastly, they'd also hinder the Medium on account of there being no dead guy to ask answers of.

Doesn't mean that I'd legitimize both reveals, but their story is not directly conflicting either - I guess I hope our Psychic mindreader-hypnotist(s) are actively investigating them tonight.
As such, I do find it complete and utter bull to now lynch either of them to test their reveal. There's no CF to tell us anything, after all.

Also, we have to examine who would reveal like this and get away with it - we currently have lynched a psycho and one undead (probably a recruit) and then, imho, most or all necros. The Creature wouldn't reveal like this, and I doubt a final necromancer would - same for the psycho's - so that means either a recruit or a symp and neither can win the game on their own.

2. Ruse. I see you fingering a LOT of people. Casting doubt here and there - see my reaction above for a gross error (if I'm positive) or deliberate misrepresentation (if I'm negative) on your part. You've also called Mockra a symp, pushing his half reveal, now calling attention to D'riss, naming Galain and oh, wait, Silanah too, I think.

Never presenting a definate case.

I name thee symp, and since I don't have a whole lot better to do right now:

Vote Ruse.



Why are you voting for a suspected symp? Who is he protecting? Who hasn't he fingered. (get your mind out of the gutter!)

I don't think he is protecting. I think he's done some maths and has come to the conclusion that we're running out of necromancers :respect:
Perfect time for the symp to start getting team inno to lynch amongst itself and start pointing out targets - and a very safe start is middle-of-the-roaders or people previously accused. The double witch-reveal also lends itself to the natural causing of suspicions.

As for why vote for a possible symp?

Lemme see. First and foremost, right now, I haven't spotted someone who behaves killer-ish, which would of course be the best choice, so I'll have to settle for a secondary target. nWe've run out of the logical lynching chain for the cult, too. Secondary targets are symps, I'd say - and failing those, well, pressuring inactive people into contributing or leaving the middle of the road.

Right now, the people I'd like to see more contribution of are D'riss, Galain, Thyrllan - but none of them has been very suspicious imho so far.
HP - maybe scum, but probably not.

Actually, I see today as an interim day, we can afford to be wrong in our lynchtarget I think, especially if we have taken care of the Creature.
That makes today an ideal day to take care of people who rubbed others wrongly... and I guess I belong on that list, as well, thanks to my day 1 behaviour. Actually, of the list I made earlier of 'town must lynch these cause they're behaving too suspiciously' list, only myself and Galain are still alive.

This post has been edited by Omtose: 28 January 2009 - 06:33 PM


#1988 User is offline   Hood's Path 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 31
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 06:38 PM

I'm having a hard time reconciling myself to the fact that we have two witches. Even if we do, I'm still suspicious as to the timing of Mockra's reveal. It seemed to come out of the blue, with very little pressure. Because of this if we decided we had to lynch one or the other I would go with Mockra. Driss did make a mistake in revealing that he had used the BP, but I felt it was part of an honest effort to defend himself and prove he was the real witch.

#1989 User is offline   Path-Shaper 

  • Mafia Modgod
  • Group: Game Mod
  • Posts: 1,255
  • Joined: 01-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 06:53 PM

This is day 6, 20.5 hours to go.

12 players still playing, 7 votes to lynch, 6 votes for night

1 vote Mockra (Rashan)
1 vote Ruse (Omtose)


10 have not voted: D'riss, Galain, Hood's Path, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Ruse, Silanah, Shadow, Thyrllan.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
0

#1990 User is offline   Shadow 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 19
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 07:07 PM

After doing a reread from 47-50. I believe there could be 2 witches now. Though not on team inno. more than likely there is an inno and a symp with witch powers. This would balance the game in that if the Necros got to powerful and the inno's lost their witch team killer could have a chance. The BP might overpower the witch a bit if the creature struck the symp, BUT the fact that everyone gets a BP upon use balances that. This would also explain why between 2 witches, neither was smart enough to save Kess. 1 of them didn't want to save Kess. I think D'riss is inno, Mockra is Symp. I have no problems lynching Mockra.

What I do have a problem with is, lynching both.... this effectively gives the Killers 2 free kills, the Necro's a free recruit, and the most team inno can hope for is a symp down. I would honestly rather we pool our collective brain power and try to find a killer/Necro... (easier said than done)

#1991 User is offline   Shadow 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 19
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 07:08 PM

1 good thing. the Necro only gets to submit 1 name after todays lynch. Less chance os cult growing.. unless we give the killer no choice who to kill.... which we are basically doing by lynching both D'riss and Mockra.

#1992 User is offline   Thyrllan 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 3
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 07:16 PM

How so?
Both are now RI, if they've used witchness. Why kill them?
I dont see the point.

#1993 User is offline   Shadow 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 19
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 07:20 PM

View PostThyrllan, on Jan 28 2009, 11:16 AM, said:

How so?
Both are now RI, if they've used witchness. Why kill them?
I dont see the point.



What are you referencing?

nvm, gotcha. see post below for my answer.

This post has been edited by Shadow: 28 January 2009 - 07:29 PM


#1994 User is offline   Meanas 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 1
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 07:23 PM

View PostShadow, on Jan 28 2009, 08:07 PM, said:

After doing a reread from 47-50. I believe there could be 2 witches now. Though not on team inno. more than likely there is an inno and a symp with witch powers. This would balance the game in that if the Necros got to powerful and the inno's lost their witch team killer could have a chance. The BP might overpower the witch a bit if the creature struck the symp, BUT the fact that everyone gets a BP upon use balances that. This would also explain why between 2 witches, neither was smart enough to save Kess. 1 of them didn't want to save Kess. I think D'riss is inno, Mockra is Symp. I have no problems lynching Mockra.

What I do have a problem with is, lynching both.... this effectively gives the Killers 2 free kills, the Necro's a free recruit, and the most team inno can hope for is a symp down. I would honestly rather we pool our collective brain power and try to find a killer/Necro... (easier said than done)


The problem I have is that I think that D'riss is the symp. Mockra seems to me to be acting like a load is off of his back and he is now stress free. Which is why I think we have to lynch both. Both of them admit to messing up with kesso. The killer has free kills as it is. He doesn't have to worry about the witches anymore cause both of them came out.

Your logic only works if D'riss is the inno witch. Do you really want to take the chance that Mockra isn't the inno and let D'riss go on till it is to late.

Another thing is what if one is a symp and the other has been recruited as a Necro. As long as one of them remains we won't know if we got rid of the right one. At least that is how I see it.

How are we going the killer no choice on who to kill?

#1995 User is offline   Shadow 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 19
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 07:28 PM

I guess they have a choice, they always do. In retrospect my logic was faulty, I thought they would have to kill a CI, as it gave our team one less person to worry about. But with Cult in play thats thrown out the window. Disregard that statement.

#1996 User is offline   Thyrllan 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 3
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 07:28 PM

Aye, my point exactly :respect:

#1997 User is offline   Path-Shaper 

  • Mafia Modgod
  • Group: Game Mod
  • Posts: 1,255
  • Joined: 01-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 07:36 PM

You are modless for a 3-4 hours. In the unlikely event of a lightning-lynch in the meantime, you know the drill!
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
0

#1998 User is offline   Thyrllan 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 3
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 07:38 PM

Go Go Go!
Lightning lynch!

vote lightning!

#1999 User is offline   Silanah 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 2
  • Joined: 23-November 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 07:59 PM

Lets see..
I believe that there were 2 witches, Driss and Mockra, and both are potentially useless now
Mockra is a symp and I also think that Shadow might be a double vote symp which I think is potentially dangerous.
Driss might be recruited tonight.. but whatever killers there are left might choose someone who is more of a threat now to kill

#2000 User is offline   Rashan 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 3
  • Joined: 06-November 08

Posted 28 January 2009 - 08:13 PM

@ Silanah- would you mind putting forth some evidence as to why you think Shadow is a double vote symp please.

Share this topic:


  • 126 Pages +
  • « First
  • 98
  • 99
  • 100
  • 101
  • 102
  • Last »
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

2 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 2 guests, 0 anonymous users