[Meanas]

Thyrllan, on Jan 21 2009, 05:13 PM, said:

Meanas, on Jan 21 2009, 04:03 PM, said:

Ok first congrats to whom ever took out a killer. Nice work. Second reading through all of the last couple of pages made my eyes bleed. You are both retards.

Thank you for that.
Care to explain why, perhaps offer something that hasn't been said. We know the killers didn't kill emur. Therefore it was either vig or creature. I believe this was mentioned already.
We've been over that killer is logically unrecruitable.
Me and ruse have even stopped arguing for the very reason you parrot, to stop attention being drawn from others.
That it was a vig was mentioned, so logically it follows about cult recruiting.
The rules which you're so happy to quote say the cult have to have a necro alive to win, so if we get the necros, cult is out of the game.

So, lovely stuff generally, but I am waiting anxiously for you to say something someone else hasn't already said.

A new case sounds nice though

Well let me see I didn't bother to actually read all of your and ruse/drisses dribble that you guys were writing. Are you telling me that there was actually content in the midst of that.

I did miss the bit about one of the Necro having to be alive. Bloody mistake by the mods. Much more fun if the zombies could still win it for them. After all the zombies have been killed and so can't revert back to townies. Which means at at they time that we get both of the necro's we could have a bunch of people without winning conditions. Never a good thing. Ask Ando from the Hero's game.

[Thyrllan]

Aye, but it balances the fact that it is possible for the cult to have a large number of recruits in a night, that they need them alive.

[Rashan]

D'riss, on Jan 21 2009, 10:30 AM, said:

Wow, I pop out for an hour and it all gets a bit narky.

I picked up on Ruse's idea and decided to explore a little further and apply a little pressure and then THYR EXPLODES IN AN ORGY OF RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION!!!

However, reading between the swear words, and there were many, I do think he defended himself well.

Then this quote:

Thyrllan, on Jan 21 2009, 01:44 PM, said:

If I knew you were not going to get lynched, I therefore knew that serc was.
Therefore, were I a necro, I knew my creature was going to die anyhow.
Therefore, why bother, rather than just jumping on sercs train, and looking innocent.

There are two answers
1. There were still a few hours of day left and trains have been building quickly so far, it's not inconceivable you could have deflected opinion on to me.
2. You are in fact inno.

As I'm no where near convinced you are a necro I'm not voting for you yet, theres plenty of time left and others to look at.

Then this comes in from Rashan

Rashan, on Jan 21 2009, 02:05 PM, said:

But I see it this way, Thyr could have been fake symping Serc and when Serc comes up as inno, he thinks he will be in the clear, thus he can now symp his real masters. Just a theory, but its mafia, everyone is suspect.

Hmmm.....

Umm, Would you mind clarifying a bit, not real sure how any thing in that post mkes sense. Are you trying to connect Thyr's post to mine? If so how, they have nothing to do with each other that I can see. Will oyu explain, please?

[Rashan]

Oh and

Vote Ruse

And now

Remove vote

Because you both explained yourselves quite clearly, but know of the 2 of you, I think you(Ruse) are the more scummy in appearance.

[D'riss]

Rashan, on Jan 21 2009, 04:29 PM, said:

Umm, Would you mind clarifying a bit, not real sure how any thing in that post mkes sense. Are you trying to connect Thyr's post to mine? If so how, they have nothing to do with each other that I can see. Will oyu explain, please?

Certainly.

I was saying that Thyr's defense was in fact a good one and as a result my Thyr suspicion thermometer was on the fall. Then I read your post about how he could be fake symping to put himself in the clear and my Thyr thermometer rose a little bit.

Defensive Rashan is defensive.

Hmmm...

[Fener]

Path-Shaper, on Jan 21 2009, 10:32 AM, said:

Emurlahn (Stalker) is dead. He was a Psychopath.

YAY! A psycho's dead!

*ahem* Morning all. After I skimmed through:

Thyrllan, on Jan 21 2009, 05:26 AM, said:

Having said that, i've alt guessed him.
Doesn't stop him being scum, but i've seen him play like that before. Much to my amazement .

Aww, thanks Thyr, I guessed you too. I don't know what it is about alt games, but I always suck on day 1.

D'riss, on Jan 21 2009, 07:39 AM, said:

Ah, bollocks, logic implosion, my bad.

D'riss, on Jan 21 2009, 11:57 AM, said:

Anyway on to the matter at hand which is hunting real scum, this post stuck out for me in my catch up:

Ruse, on Jan 21 2009, 10:24 AM, said:

There is also the chance that Thyr or one of the others that defended Serc thought that Serc was their creature.
I say this because Serc revealed that a creature "can send codes to his his master in his posts" which perhaps made the necros think that he was signaling them to look for codes in HIS posts?

When in fact all he was doing was revealing to the creature a possible way to communicate with his necro masters if he is able to ever catch their attention!

This, I believe, is a bloody good spot.

Back soon

As pointed out in earlier posts which I missed in my skim read, this is not "a bloody good spot" and I've just spent half an hour skimming Thyr's posts.

However, he has been jumping about all over the place and so far has voted for Fener, Rashan, Serc, Emurlahn, Mockra, HP and me, so I guess a more thorough investigation is in order...

Think about who you know who plays that way. I admit its suspect, but then again he ALWAYS plays like this.

As for current threat level, I think its safe to say that we are in the best position. One killer is dead, that leaves us with a maximum of 2 left, more likely one. He wasn't recruited, possibly because he can't be, but more likely because the Creature hasn't figured out how to signal the Necros. Other way round applies as well. This means that recruiting is still probably pretty random. Also, because Emurlahn was killed, HIS order probably didn't go through. Therefore, max recruit last night is 1. Yay, we rock.3

Reason for EDIT: Hit a button by accident resulting in me posting before I actually intended to.

This post has been edited by Fener: 21 January 2009 - 05:05 PM

[D'riss]

@Fener - keep reading, I changed my mind back again.

just the facts, m'am, just the facts.

[Thyrllan]

Fener, on Jan 21 2009, 05:04 PM, said:

Think about who you know who plays that way. I admit its suspect, but then again he ALWAYS plays like this.

Hey! Be nice

[Galayn Lord]

Yeah but, I think its more likely we have paired psychopaths so the Killers kill probably still went through and I doubt theres only 1 vig in the game so I think your being a bit optimistic with the max recruit of 1 there.

[Thyrllan]

Worst case scenario says 2.
So I reckon thats probably best way to proceed.
We are the mafia.
Optimism is not welcome.
Not is happiness.
Its srss.

[Galayn Lord]

Actually Im thinking worst case is actually around 3, as im assuming at least 2 vigs and a psychopath kill, il assume it was the creature who hit emurlahn as that seems more likely.
EDIT: Yes i know its not very likely that 2 vigs both wasted it on day one, but that is probably worst case scenario

This post has been edited by Galayn Lord: 21 January 2009 - 05:17 PM

[Thyrllan]

Well, 3 is possible, but unlikely imo, cause if we've got 2 vigs, either they're paired, so with 1 kill, or both likely 1 shot, so its unlikely both used.

[Fener]

D'riss, on Jan 21 2009, 12:10 PM, said:

@Fener - keep reading, I changed my mind back again.

just the facts, m'am, just the facts.

I'll thank you to call me Sir. I'm sorry, I must have missed it. I just tagged posts I wanted to comment on, and yours was one of the few I didn't remember seeing a resolution to.

Thyrllan, on Jan 21 2009, 12:11 PM, said:

Fener, on Jan 21 2009, 05:04 PM, said:

Think about who you know who plays that way. I admit its suspect, but then again he ALWAYS plays like this.

Hey! Be nice

Oh you know its true.

Galayn Lord, on Jan 21 2009, 12:12 PM, said:

Yeah but, I think its more likely we have paired psychopaths so the Killers kill probably still went through and I doubt theres only 1 vig in the game so I think your being a bit optimistic with the max recruit of 1 there.

Yeah its optimistic, but think about it. If I got my colour coding right, the gravediggers are on our team. Ergo, they wouldn't be as likely to use it unless they were fairly sure about the target they were hitting. Esp. if its a one shot.

[Mockra]

Thyrllan, on Jan 21 2009, 12:13 PM, said:

Worst case scenario says 2.
So I reckon thats probably best way to proceed.
We are the mafia.
Optimism is not welcome.
Not is happiness.
Its srss.

yeah, no spam alolowed, either

back from data-collection expedition, sitting in a caf waiting for people to recycle before asking them to answer survey questions makes one feel silly.

Thank god my partner was good looking and attracted people enough for them to answer her questions.

This post has been edited by Mockra: 21 January 2009 - 05:19 PM

[Thyrllan]

Sadly the rules say that a symp may have any of the roles the innocent have.
We could have symp finders, symps vigs etc.
Makes it irritating, and makes reveals harder to trust.

[Thyrllan]

Mockra, on Jan 21 2009, 05:18 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on Jan 21 2009, 12:13 PM, said:

Worst case scenario says 2.
So I reckon thats probably best way to proceed.
We are the mafia.
Optimism is not welcome.
Not is happiness.
Its srss.

yeah, no spam alolowed, either

back from data-collection expedition, sitting in a caf waiting for people to recycle before asking them to answer survey questions makes one feel silly.

Thank god my partner was good looking and attracted people enough for them to answer her questions.

No spam?

*dies*

Unless there is silencite or a banragon about ill do as I please

[Korlat]

Well, just finished wading through that largely content-free crap fest since Night ended. Thanks, Ruse and Thyrllan, for essentially wasting a half-hour of my time.

Note that I don't think Serc was likely to be a Symp - or that Thyrllan is likely to be Serc's Psycho master. Symps defend leaders, not the other way around - especially not so vigorously.

As well, I was only moderately convinced by the Serc case. It was the fact that a couple of people rushed to his defense, using the inaccurate "this is going too fast!" defense to try to derail the train, that convinced me to keep my vote on. That just looked (mistakenly) to me like Symps trying to slow down a lynch of their leader. Obviously, I was wrong.

And I don't particularly think it would be useful to kill Mockra on the possibility of being Emur's Symp - we'll never know for sure, and that'll just waste a lynch.

Galain is really the only truly suspicious person to me at the moment (who the hell tries to push for lynching low posters 7 fucking hours into the game, and then pushes again later while it's still day 1?!); and maybe HP and D'riss.


Vote Galain

Just to get the ball rolling.

(Mind, my other original problem with Galain was that he tried to derail the Serc train, but that's obviously no longer a valid suspicion).

[Mockra]

umm, I wouldn't be so surea bout the gravediggers
I mean, yes tehy are described as vigs, but i've seen plenty a vig shoot their load on night 1, so that "they get a chance to use it"

As foolish as it sounds, people have done it tin the past.

incidentally, Tennes has given us 0 content

vote Tennes

untill we see some.

This post has been edited by Mockra: 21 January 2009 - 05:22 PM

[Korlat]

P.S. - Oh, seriously, all these posts and I'm the first to vote?

What the hell kind of Mafia game is this?

[Mockra]

Rashan voted
but he messed up the bolding