[Path-Shaper]

Yeah good plan on the backup, wonder if Gem is around I haven't seen her though...

And from Morgobahn

Kessobahn said:

Is it unhealthy that I've spotted DiBs already? Does that make me perceptive, or obsessed?

It would be so great if he turned out a killer this time around, or a necro.. It's been ages since he was properly evil, and he might just take my vote as a wink if so.. Still, I should've been a vig

And he's so right Dibs as evil.

Morgys plan:

Kessobahn said:

and for my plan.. There could be as many as 4, or even 5 symps in this game if we count that odd cult one too.. So, i'll just be sympish to a lot of people.. I must hit a target at one point or another

At least he's reading the cult right as symping to the killers.


Poor D'riss called out for not posting already in his first game.


And now from Griellan.

Thyrllan said:

Fener is Morgoth45.
Hmph, now to try get him lynched, for fun...It's day one, theres no better case...

What goes on in Modcraft for him to pick him so quick? Sheesh, poor m45 he's got the fun Necromancer role and everything..

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 19 January 2009 - 12:22 PM

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Path-Shaper, on Jan 19 2009, 02:16 PM, said:

What goes on in Modcraft for him to pick him so quick? Sheesh, poor m45 he's got the fun Necromancer role and everything..

On one little post, damned I'm impressed.

Maybe he's the only non-Grief player that still goes to school

[Path-Shaper]

Some pretty much on the money thoughts from Dibsy.

Liosan said:

ok i think our highest priority is to remove the medium so there is no cf after scenes and they cant ask the dead for info.

secondly we are up against it with these fucking necros getting 1/6 of the remaining players on a list, thats 3 people tonight they can guess with possibly two kills so the necros are number two on the target. And there are more than one of them.

23 players

2 killers
2 symps (possibly omtose and galain)

2 necros
1symp

14 innos.
paired finders
medium
vig guard
10 ri.

My initial thoughts for a target tonight are ruse.

Ruse has made himself a target by appearing sensible apparently.


And now some questions

Liosan said:

just how screwed are we

no seriously, what happens when the necros die? do their recruits returnt o the grave? say yes


go on say yes


GO ON SAY YES!!!!

I don't think the killers are screwed to be honest. Necromancers aren't all that, its what 3/20 chance of getting a recruit first night, its not the greatest odds.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 19 January 2009 - 01:43 PM

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He's good with the distribution, except we went a bit more inno-roled heavy

[Path-Shaper]

Yeah, well I think the Inno team is ok. Maybe one extra Finder too many, but they need to pick each find between Necro or Killer so even if you pick scum you still got a 50% chance of picking the wrong group.

Everyone picks up Dibs straight away don't they, From Omtose.

Omtose said:

All these not very amusing 'I'm a killer' antics have at the least resulted in a:
Liosan = DiBs alt-guess.

Thank God for Galain playing along... and Ruse needs to take a chillpill or two and realize that there are 30+ hours to go. unless Ruse is a newbie, in which case: cheers for being so eager to start playing the proper game

I notice its mainly Roleless innos doing the talking at the moment. Probably a few hours the Americans will start showing up. Hope everyone can make it, I might extend Modkill for a little longer due to Board being out but will see how it goes.

[Path-Shaper]

Although to be fair to Dibs he brings up a good question, what happens to the rest of the cult when the Necros die? And the Creature, I mean they can't win any more. I suggest we just kill them all in one huge death scene, and maybe Creature is a Serial Killer. I regret not considering this

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Path-Shaper, on Jan 19 2009, 03:57 PM, said:

Although to be fair to Dibs he brings up a good question, what happens to the rest of the cult when the Necros die? And the Creature, I mean they can't win any more. I suggest we just kill them all in one huge death scene, and maybe Creature is a Serial Killer. I regret not considering this

For sure, don't tell them that if the necros die, the recruits go back to inno, otherwise they'll play half-assed hoping their bosses die.

Killing them all is one possibility, although it's a bit extreme. The other possibility is to remove the requirements for one necro to be alive in the winning conditions, like this it gives them a chance to lynch their way to victory.

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Actually, never mind.

Kill the recruits, it's the most logical thing to do, they are kept undead by the necromancer magic.

And the Creature, mad with grief, becomes a SK, brilliant!

If you want, we can add this to the rules and point it out on thread. It's not a big deal that it was not there from the start.

This post has been edited by Jump Around: 19 January 2009 - 02:17 PM

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Yeah I think thats the way to go as well. Whiney Omtose complaining about a slow game already. Its 3 hour and 3 pages sheesh.
I think board being down didn't help.

Omtose said:

It's day 1. 23 people, and we have 3 pages in 3 hours, mostly filled by me... or so it feels.
I'm a tad bit disappointed, especially since Halloween is such a great setting to have some day 1 fun in

Hopefully, this will be because the focus is not Europe but the US thanks to the modcraft people joining us, just like in the Rome game, which mostly exploded around midnight CET...

Well, I'm F5-ing every 15-30 min in hopes of some classy stuff until then.

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The balance of players has somewhat shifted towards US, so I expect it will be busier soon. I had the same discussion with Tapper about his Rome game, and it did pick up fast.

Is it Hinter's first ever game, or just here? If it's his first game and he keeps lurking, you might want to nudge him with friendly advice before the game gets too advanced and he completely drops out.

Speaking of symps, I suggest we also kill the killer's symps if the killers are dead and the game goes on, unless of course the symp has been recruited.

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haha, dktorode is in a bad mood

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Omtose, on Jan 19 2009, 05:03 PM, said:

Three posts in a row, Thyrllan. Maybe you should now confess your love for pepsi?

[Path-Shaper]

Yeah well Omtose is being weird today.

And a little chat from Dibs. He wants te Creature to join his team if te Necro's die. I'm not that nice sadly.

Liosan said:

aint that what i said sweet cakes.

so 2 necros. we should have 2 symps. dont tell me galain and omtose

kill ruse !!

Path-Shaper said:

Actually its our fault, it should be in the rules. They all die, and the Creature goes mad and becomes a Serial Killer if he's still around.

Liosan said:

half a brain liek me worked it out sure the others did too. thought the creature would die as well, though, which is why i asked as i was looking for a two for one deal.

Path-Shaper said:

Nah Serial Killer is more fun for everyone!

Liosan said:

more deaths the better, but how can they win? how about they join the killers as part of our group, that way they are like a prize for me and emur to go for

Path-Shaper said:

Do i need to tell you how a Serial Killer wins a game? Shame on you..

Liosan said:

hehe - no, but i would like to earn a third killer for my team, so i hope you dont

[Path-Shaper]

Anyway waaaay past my bed time. I see Hoods Path has shown up now so thats the other new player. Still no post from D'riss I sent them a message but I guess they're not around.

I'll leave things in your hands, back in 8 - 9hours or so.

[Path-Shaper]

I'm in. HOLY SHIT, 13 messages!


Griefllan latches on to the Necro (titled "people I want to lynch"

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Fener-He's morgoth45

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Hood's Path, on Jan 19 2009, 05:18 PM, said:

I have no idea what you're trying to imply! I'm a Coke drinker myself!

For this post.
Coke is not as good as pepsi

KessoMorgoth:

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Omtose is Tapper, which is a problem as I am seemingly incapable of telling evil tapper and good tapper apart.. Perhaps I should just jump on her lynch as a precautionary measure, or just because it's more fun. And besides, it should strengthen my position as a possible symp if I lead the group on an inno lynch.

TapperOmtose doesn't return his lover's unequivocal alt-guess:

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Galain is The Man Who. Or maybe he's Morgoth, but there's not enough used to be Morgy, I think...

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Yellow is Kessobahn, I think. He commented already on my 'womanly charms' and he once said I'm easy to alt-guess due to the making of lists, using numbers and bullets etc., which no-one else does.

Oh, and I have Serc down as candidate for teholbeddict.

LiosanDibs the killer bites Morgoth's line:

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kesso could be our symp, votes me in his first post then starts pushing the weak case i made.

i am out for the day, got to go to my bros then i am going bow and arrows later for soem fun.

ruse - possibly gem

kess - possibly morgoth

omtose - grief

serc - dk )or whoever siad about using phone)

Haha, this is funny.

[Path-Shaper]

More from KessoMorgoth:

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So then, I've missed a halfway standard game, and this will be quite fun I think.. I dunno how well I'm actually doing, but who cares. I figure my questions might be best when it comes to finding out who's potential symps.. And perhaps get an idea of who's twins, lovers or whatever.

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Ok, I agree with you so far. Finishing my catching up.

This is Stalker btw, so this Eastern time so throws me off a bit with so many living over in Europe. Makes it easier having you for a partner because we can always talk over xbox live if there is something important.

If you want to be a higher poster after Day 1, I'm fine with that. I am better at watching and agreeing with people heh.

Also should we CC path-shaper in on all our stuff?

i always cc them in to the important stuff, good for spoilers.

simple gameplan, avoid any glaring mistakes. NEVER EVER EVER defend each other. In fact if things get hairy for either of us, we should be agreed to cut and run.

seriously, i spoke to ps and the necro is seriously strong, so i assume we have 2 symps.

we need to take out the medium and the necro. the beasty can wait as far as i am concerned the extra night kills as long as not directed at us should be good. try to alt guess people and we should be grand.

mid to high posters, and we crusade against the lows, or high and low.

i think it might be fun to go striaght for the wifom, and take out players who seem most likely to die shake it up.

still, ruse for tonight unless something better comes along, perhaps fener.

More, where he REALLY falls for Morgoth's plan:

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Kessobahn, on Jan 19 2009, 04:08 PM, said:

Hood's Path, on Jan 19 2009, 04:59 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on Jan 19 2009, 07:50 AM, said:

it will always be gut on the first day, and in all honesty I am of two minds about Omtose. For one I don't like the post and the nervousness it radiates, but at the same time I do recognice that small things become huge in the absence of larger blocks of information – which is essentially why day 1 lynches are as odd as they are – ergo I may be less objective in this regard than I would've liked. Omtose is a strong player, if a bit too willing to parrot my every say in an attempt to seem wise, and so I am not quite convinced we should move to lynch him today..

But at the same time, he seems to guilty!

He does seem very guilty! The thing about it is he's not really doing anything to deny the guilt. It seems odd to me, at first he was nervous about it and now he's throwing it all out there in a way. Very erratic behaviour! An attempt at some reverse psychology perhaps?

the best way to avoid this kind of thing is to ignore it.. unless someone latches on. Unfortunately for the killers, it's often difficult to do that.

this would be a post i would go nuts for if i was ri, but as i think he is my symp i wont. You may want to call him out on it though, given my history i am not likely to survive so a good bit of distancing early from any possibly symp or killer suspects should leave you well placed later, just dont put it on too thick, we dont want him lynched just yet

I want to aim people at him, but we don't want him dead yet either. So I could just quote that and him "symp much?" As an easy out, if you want me to do that.

sounds good. we need to look like we are actively searching for people, and the obvious stuff is easy to defend against but hard to justify missing, so its best. if i was symp i would be all over him, so we need to watch for our second symp (if there is one).

4 man team - we need to go like six days without losing someone?? really that cant be right.


@mods - seriously, guessing 2 symps, you have a bp for the group out there probably, and even if both us and the monster are killing at 3 a day with no loses that still six days... hope there are some trigger happy vigs out there.

i should be back in the morning, probably post with ten hours left, leave myself room to appear and the go.

if you spot anyone for a target, let me know

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 19 January 2009 - 06:17 PM

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From the other killer, Emurlahn:

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Serc called out Kess as symp and threw a vote his way.

Our business is done for us.

but we want to appear like we are making cases, he missed out the part about unfortunate for killers

Ok well a threw a vote at Kesso, with the part bolded.

Now I must go get a haircut. Will return.

From SercLisheo:

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I might be sick as a dog, but I like the set-up for this game so far.
I also feel considerably better.
The foreign phrase earlier is so I can avoid being detected as myself, I really hate getting alt guessed Day One!
So far I genuinely see nothing hugely suspicious which leads me to believe the killers are laying low.

On the contrary, putting a finnish sentence would make me alt-guess him right away


From OmtoseTapper:

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Hmm, I think I'm currently happily sinking away from being the centre of attention after my ridiculous claims a few hours ago... maybe when the US folks join in, it will renew, but I doubt it. I'll be able to join blissful anonimity for the remainder of day 1 and not get lynched, after which I can play peekaboo again. So far, it all goes more or less according to plan: fast start, centre of attention, shrink to a side event as day 1 wears on, have everyone doubt my alignment and thus get target with non-lethal stuff only.

Crossing my fingers that it remains this way.

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NOTE: FOR SIMPLICITY, THIS WHOLE GAME, WHEN WE SAY "VOTES" WE MEAN "PLAYERS VOTING FOR".

The Rome game's double voter did so much damage in this respect that you want to clarify despite publishing the role list?

[Path-Shaper]

Some alt-guesses from LisheoSerc:

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Tapper- Emurlahn
Teholbeddict- HP
Baudin- One of the Mocraft Guys

Hmm, he got Tehol Beddict, but not sure I understand that last one...

EDIT: he meant Thyrllan

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StalkEmurlahn:

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I've got a feeling that Mockra may be our other symp.

After I was called out on being suspicious, Mockra has been trying to help imo. Saying that I can't be judged on the 1 strange post and what not. Also has been throwing votes towards people calling me out.

From morgoth45:

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WTF!? No more spam!? I was gonna plug in the entire lyrics of Necromancer by Van der Graaf Generator, along with a link to a live performance of the song. Oh well, if I do that now, I'll be lynched.

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Hmm, assuming I've done the math right, (Not entirely likely, I only got a 67 in my last math course) We only get three names on the list tonight. That means that I'm most likely to survive if I push for a Kaschan lynch. Then I get two recruit chances instead of one, plus guaranteed night BPs. Please tell me my math is wrong, I don't want to waste my team so soon.

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Not sure what morgoth45Fener is talking about:

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Since you didn't specify, I have to ask. Can the Necros become unkillable by putting themselves on the list each night?

<br /><br />You can put whoever you like on the list, yes that includes yourself and your partner and anyone you have recruited. Its not a loophole its part of being a MASTER OF DEATH!

&lt;br /&gt;<br /><br />Hmm, assuming I've done the math right, (Not entirely likely, I only got a 67 in my last math course) We only get three names on the list tonight. That means that I'm most likely to survive if I push for a Kaschan lynch. Then I get two recruit chances instead of one, plus guaranteed night BPs. Please tell me my math is wrong, I don't want to waste my team so soon.

<br /><br />You are allowed 3 names on your list tonight, yes.

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Fuck. Shit, fuck, cunt, piss, cocksucker, motherfucker, and tits. This throws the hugest motherfucking monkey Cock in my entire game plan. And it's my own fault, too, cuz when I read 1/6th, my brain registered: 6 on the first list. Well, I guess its time to kill Kaschan. I'm going to play the opportunist to the hilt.

Hmmm, YellowKaschan spotted something strange:

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What I reckon right now (might change my mind later) is that right now, it's a complete toss-up as to who will get targeted for a kill... so, the chances of it being one of us tonight is small. Also, the chances of us correctly guessing for the list are also small, so... if we want to grow (and we do, the faster the better), then tonight we should not put ourselves on the list and maximise our odds.

By the way, Galain posted this:

Galain, on Jan 19 2009, 12:06 PM, said:

Yes it is a ninja costume. How astute of you.

Pirates are passê and very last year.

You really need to brush up on your aesthetics.

@Omtose: No need. If I think that the words I type are invisible, it means that only you can see them. Problem solved. Anyone who can see them is clearly an evil. Generally I don't discriminate between evil and good, but apparently this game is all about dividing people rather than bringing together. Just imagine what a wonderful world we could have if we could all just team up and cast down the mods from their spoiler heaven and bring in a disutopian future.

Check the last letters of the first four sentences. It's an anagram for Ruse. I've laid this trap for myself before, so there's no need to get crazy with the paranoid theories... but if he has coded Ruse, he could be a symp or even his killer partner, hoping to use the code as some kind of get-out-clause.

By the way, I'm cc-ing Path shaper into most of our PMs.

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Right, this is Ruse's first post, as far as I can tell.

It has six sentences (apart from the vote), and Galain has six letters. Also, the sentences don't flow. I'm going to see if I can spot "Galain" in here somewhere. Let me know if you spot it.

Ruse, on Jan 19 2009, 12:27 PM, said:

Forum finally working again.
Excellent!

So its usual day one banter i see.
Although a reveal even a joke reveal surely doesnt help us inno's now does it?

Vote Omtose

For pretending to be scum, or he could be double bluffing perhaps and really is scum?
Also seems a tad bit defensive.

Damn, he IS the code-breaker. I swear to you, that guy must be autistic.

morgoth45's reply:

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Okay, I'll start CC-ing you two in mine as well.

As far as the list, I think its the most important to have us both on the list tonight, specifically because of the randomness of 1st night kills. As for the other, I'd probably put Thyrllan, Omtose, or Kess, they seem to be most hated atm. I don't want any low-posters, they're probably not worth adding to the team as they are dead weight and are easy to push for a lynch on. We'll see, I have to hop on the bus in 15 minutes. We'll talk when I get home.