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Hmm, tough call. Telling them to "not betray" is not that good. Maybe to make them unrecruitable, period.

It's a tough game to prepare, there are new ideas there that make it hard to know what to expect. But making them die upon NK even if they are on the list of the Necros, I think, would be the thing to do.

About the players, I don't know what to say about Gamelon/Peril. If there's no backup, I guess modkill is the only option to be fair. It sucks, but modkills always happen in games, specially when there's 23 players and many new ones.

Hinter is getting into it indeed, I hope Tennes/twist will too.

For the rest, Vengeance and Baudin worry me a little, they are absent and have important roles.

This post has been edited by Jump Around: 20 January 2009 - 12:17 PM

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I will post on thread about the role change and change the role post. I'm actually quite pleased about the change. The Killers know how well teh cult is doing roughly when people they kill don't end up dead, and now the Necros' will know how well the Killers are going when people who should be recruited end up dead.

Works rather well.

Bit worried about Baudin as well he's a crucial man. Although it was a public holiday in the USA so people were probably busy with that. The USAians should be showing up in a few hours so I guess we'll see.

Any ideas for the lynch scene, presuming they actually lynch...

Oooh and now this is interesting, from Dibsy.

Liosan said:

i actually think serc could be our symp, but this is how i play

by linking you to him, if lynched he will remove suspicion from you.

also the case isnt that great, intentionally so, it is designed to show effort and to ensure low posting me is seen as contributing. mY main worry is the creature trying to kill either of us. We dont want to be too helpful as we could make ourselves recruitment targets. this also puts soem distance between us, which will help if ieither of us bite the bucket.

i am thinking fener for tonight, i really think there is something odd going on there.

Fener gone? He'll be pissed, he's been wanting to protect himself just in case...


Well its looking like its Fener!

Emurlahn said:

Well I am awake, for the minute. My 8am class was cancelled, but I am going to go sleep some more after we talk.

I liked your Serc post, it was lengthy and fun I guess. I can clearly see you attacking me which distances us. So do you want me to vote Serc as well, "because I have seen the light of Liosan's post." Or hold off for now?

Also Fener is fine with me, as long as he isn't recruited. Hopefully he is necro though

And Dibsy with some good advice for Stalker whose already been noticed as dodgy for a couple people.

Liosan said:

defo dont switch, we know serc isnt the kilelr so if he comes back inno we need you aligned with him. obviously if its you or him you need to jump ship, but give it time otherwise people will assume you were a killer jumping on an easy train

just play it cool mate, playing it cool is the way to go

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 20 January 2009 - 01:40 PM

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From Emurlahn:

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i actually think serc could be our symp, but this is how i play wink.gif

by linking you to him, if lynched he will remove suspicion from you.

also the case isnt that great, intentionally so, it is designed to show effort and to ensure low posting me is seen as contributing. mY main worry is the creature trying to kill either of us. We dont want to be too helpful as we could make ourselves recruitment targets. this also puts soem distance between us, which will help if ieither of us bite the bucket.

i am thinking fener for tonight, i really think there is something odd going on there.

Well I am awake, for the minute. My 8am class was cancelled, but I am going to go sleep some more after we talk.

I liked your Serc post, it was lengthy and fun I guess. I can clearly see you attacking me which distances us. So do you want me to vote Serc as well, "because I have seen the light of Liosan's post." Or hold off for now?

Also Fener is fine with me, as long as he isn't recruited. Hopefully he is necro though

and the other killer, Liosan:

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defo dont switch, we know serc isnt the kilelr wink.gif so if he comes back inno we need you aligned with him. obviously if its you or him you need to jump ship, but give it time otherwise people will assume you were a killer jumping on an easy train wink.gif

just play it cool mate, playing it cool is the way to go smile.gif

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so how are you finding the game?

Well hard to say at this point probably need to give it a day or two and see how everything all falls out seeing the roles in action and how it goes. Necromancer is a tricky one trying to balance, its hard to tell how effective they'll be or not.

What do ya think of the setup/roles, from what you've seen.

i think its gonna be tough for me and stalker, but as long as we have a good time doing it i dont mind. I hope we get one necro early through lynch or nk, but keep the other about until a sneaky nk takes him out and takes a bunch with him smile.gif

most worried about the creature, he is our main trouble because he can target us. and with a big day 1 case i look quite useful, so although serc may be wrong i do kind of hope the witch bps us all smile.gif

what cf do we get with the medium, surely not role or anything?

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 20 January 2009 - 01:38 PM

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dktorodeRuse's senses are tingling:

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Man o man.

galain is setthing off the alarm bells right now.

Omtose pretends(?) to joke about being a killer and then ropes galain in on the "joke" for no reason that i can see, other than to signal your master that you are his symp perhaps?
Also Galain defends omtose somewhat, did he get the clue about being the symp perhaps?
I think it could be.

Now galain is very eager to jump on the Serc train. Almost like he is looking for an excuse to add his vote.
I give him a little reason and he jumps on faster then a starving hooker.

I dunno what to make of it all. Could i really be right about Omtose?
Interesting first day ill give you that much.

But i could just be jumping at shadows, it be early.
I'll just quietly kep my eye on the guy.

and back to DibsLiosan:

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poor serc, i love how easy it is to manipulate people in this game, even if i do actually believe he is my symp i love how easy it is to make a big case and get people to follow through just by sheer VOLUME!!!

of course the problem with malazan mafia is that things like this have a tendancy to backfire so i could realistically be lynched smile.gif

Well, the case itself is not that bad. For day 1, I would vote.

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I gotta head off soon. I need to get up early so I can be around for the end of the day.

I'll be around with an hour and a half before day end to keep track of everything.

If you have any ideas about a day end scene put them in a post and i'll write them up for the end.

[Jump Around]

Excellent.

If Gamelon doesn't show up by then, I guess you should mod-kill him at the end-of-day scene. It sucks because he's roled, but it's very far from game-breaking, so we'll have to do it.

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Holy ¤#&

Galayn Lord said:

provisional kill Emurlahn
no particular reason

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Tapper is happy and surprised to be alive

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Finally did a read-through. Nice to see that for once, a tactic comes together nicely. Now to stay quiet, post once or twice before the lynch and watch them drive Serc into the abyss.

Oh, and Kesso = Morgy, not Yellow.

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From dibs:

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dude i am coming down with some flu or something, i am clean fucked at mo in work and am on train home sad.gif

its good to see which way people are going and who tries to do what. galayn is himming and hamming, so possibly some link to serc.

EVIL
Emurlahn,
liosan

possibly mockra
possibly serc
possibly ruse

NECRO
possibly fener
possibly galain
possibly omtose

INNO
Ampelas,
Anomandaris,
D'riss,
Galayn Lord,
Gamelon,
Hood's Path,
Kaschan,
Kessobahn,
Korlat,
Meanas,
Omtose,
Rashan,
Serc,
Shadow,
Silanah,
Tennes,
Thyrllan.


Thats my early impressiona s possiblities, we can expand ont hat as we go and draw relationships between players. Heres hoping serc is actually the witch wink.gif we could possibly have an evil guard out there which might help things or an evil healer so if you think you spot roles or anyone actively defending another player stick info on the list and send me it when your finished up for the day.

not sure if i will be on later as i am going home to bed, but for a night action,

fener driss or ruse as possibles.

fener i think may be necro so he is my most likely target choice, but we could go for kaschan or tennes who have done very little.

so i will put forward for fener, with maybe if you think its best going for a low poster maybe tennes or kaschan?? i guess wait for the cf as well. but if i am not on you make decision.

@mods - if i dont make it on later due to illness take stalkers choice as gospel please once the rest of the actions are in.

... holy fuck, the necros and the killers are taking each other out



If that happens and it ends the game early, I take full blame, Gavin wanted to add some BPs to the killers/necros and I told him not to

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Gavin, did you ever make the rule correction?

Just in case, I'll go post it now, earlier the better, and it is the right decision.

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Allright, the Symp is getting in business:

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Symp: You're not originally part of the trap, but once there you realize those killers have a point. You don't have the nerve to kill yet, but you will do everything in your power to help the killers win.

You are also a bully but nobody ever got the nerve to inform you of this. Loud, obnoxious, opinionated, people tend to agree with you just to get you to shut up. The Executioner's vote counts for two in any lynch train.

Your two killers are Emurlahn and Liosan.

Thank you for that. I wasn't to worried about it. The other symp must have brought it up a couple of times....hmmm...

The recruiting thing? Actually, I think it was brought up on thread.

There's tons of little scenario I'm not sure we planned properly for, we're sweating a little and hoping for the best

Happens in every game. Bloody people don't want to go according to script. :snigger:

I am just trying not to get targetted by my guys to early in the game. Other then that with all of these people there hasn't had been that much of a need for me. I don't know who Liosan is but I like how he makes cases...

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VengeMeanas is enjoying his sympage:

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I of course will get slammed at work and forget to remove my vote...:snigger: Of course people don't realize that right now Serc is at l-2....tehehehe

While DibsLiosan is enjoying the sheepage:

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trying to stop my train aint going to work even if i try and do it !!!

haha

kessobahn is defo not our symp then. so add him to possible targets, likekly not the monster either. look at the train when its done mate, the creature is almost garaunteed to be on it if he is in this timezone.

possibly one symp int here as well or maybe a necro.

starting to think ruse is a necro, he jumped ont hat train strong, its hard to tell though if people are balancing with me because they are symps or because they want people dead too.


@mods - you should announce the mechanics of the necros on thread so people know the creature becomes sk after they die. i have wanted to say it, but mentioning stuff you got from ps begs the question of why you asked it.

@stalker - like ^ never say you asked ps about something, makes people wonder why you are questioning a role mechanic.

makes me think serc is the wicth and was looking for feedback wait for a reveal

if serc reveals witch, we kill them tonight to remove the blanket bp and then leave them, i could lynch them later on on basis of them never being nk'ed so possibly no lynch or a strange one would suit us.

targets in order of importance

fener
ruse
kesso
kaschan
driss

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More from Venge:

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Who ever is Liosan is doing a good job of first making a case and then distancing himself from it by asking people to wait for a defence... I made a few tosses to get some more people on board and am now going to go quiet for a while. I think that Kesso needs to go. I had almost made a case on him when I saw that Liosan had made a case on Serc. So I backed off and went for Serc.

The other killer is wondering how to play it for the rest of the day:

Emurlahn said:

What do you think of me just sitting out the rest of Day 1? That way there is no pressure to vote for Serc, and when I get "on" I can come up with something good to say.

I could also, right now, try to defend Serc as inno which would help me once the lynch occurs OR draw unnecessary attention to me.

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Sorry, went to hit reply and deleated our talk.

But for recruitment targets, I am thinking that the necros will probably pick 2 higher posters and one random chance choice. I think you might be picked as one, since you were useful in the lynch train so far, maybe Thyr as well. For a random one, maybe a low poster who nobody really has a read on yet.

The thing I prefer in this game (and was looking forward to) is to see the killers and the Necros WIFOM each other for the NKs

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 20 January 2009 - 04:31 PM

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A scene idea, if Serc gets it:

After a long time banging the locked doors, you give up and accept your fate. It seems you'll have to fight your way out of here.

Around you, an assortment of costumes. Not everyone showed signs of originality, as there must be a half-dozen of Obamas and a handful of George Ws. The rest is composed of various magicians, demons, dragons, ugly witches and hairy creatures. Some costumes are quite elaborated, from where you stand you can't even see the strings or zippers.

On the wall of the rooms, various torture instruments and sharp weapons, caked with what you hope is fake dried blood. From the start, Omtose and Galain each grab an axe and start waving them at the others, making obnoxious noises. Attempts to diffuse the tension? Psychopaths toying with their prey? Hard to tell, but many start to grumble and approach them threateningly. Quickly, they stop, and the tension subside.

After some time, the one named Serc grabs an ugly girl who was passing close to him

"Hey, you, Witch! Are you a real one? Don't your kind have some kind of protection power? Can you keep us alive tonight? Don't hoard it all to yourself, will ya?"

There is some grumbling. Many would prefer to keep that power for later. Other think back and realize many things Serc said were not quite right.

Soon, the grumbling comes to shoving. Someone flashes a rope, which is quickly tied in a knot and send towards the fighting Serc. After few more shouts, he is slowly dragged in the air where, after a few kicks, he remains motionless

Serc (Lisheo) has been lynched. He was innocent.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 20 January 2009 - 04:49 PM

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And a little something for Gamelon's modkill if needed


"Thanks for the ear, buddy, I needed it"

As you offer him your hand to shake, you start to register how immobile the dude is. Slowly, you raise the helmet visor, and are quite startled to realize the armor is empty.

You don't know what is worse: the idea that some people use medieval armors as decoration outside the movies, or the fact you've been talking to it for close to an hour

Gamelon (Peril) has been modkilled. He was innocent.

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Emurlahn is worried about Fener's last post:

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Well he is back online, and calling you out for tomorrow if you are wrong about Serc, which we know you are- unless he is a necro. I'm not sure if we want to nip this in the bud tonight, like planned or choose another target.

I'm merely worried that if we pick off Fener, we/ you will pay tomorow if someone decides he has a point about you and was killed for that. Of course we could kill and have you defend yourself.

Hopefully you get back online and let me know what you think.

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Witch #1's action:

D'riss said:

Got to go now and busy morning, so not sure if I'll be back online until night ends, so can I say No Action now?

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Provisional from ShadowDude:

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OK, Provisional Anomandaris for a Killer Find.

He talked way to much about game mechanics for him to be a Necro. Also his place and vote on the Serc train is very fishy, especially after I analyzed..he removed. I would call him out on thread but I don't want to spook him. I think I might have said to much on thread as it is. I think I'm not very good at being subtle

Quick question, If I give you a list of names for a find, and the #1 gets night killed, do I get a find on the #2 on my list? or do I just get a find on the dead guy and get the same CF they get in game? never been a finder before so i'm not sure.

If I get a back up find then I want:

1. Anomandaris (Killer)
2. Hood's Path (Killer)
3. Rashan (Killer)

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ShadowDude confirms his provisional:

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There you go, trying to make my job hard! Now I have to read the mind of the killers and not choose NK possibilities... ... ok,

I want to investigate anomandaris and in the off chance he gets lynched. Do Hood's Path. Both for Psycho faction.

On a side note, good set-up I like how the different facions interact.

The question for the possibly-departed from the medium, KessoMorgoth:

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humh.. a provisional I guess..

If Serc comes up inno:

"What do you know about the game that can benefit the innocents?"

LisheoSerc freaked out by the train:

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AGHHHHH! Am I really that suspicious? What is it with me and Day One/Two votes off? GAH.

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LisheoSerc:

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Argh! All this crap about reveals being used for the Witch, if someone reveals a role like that, they won't get nked, the scum symps will counter-reveal and get them both lynched without needing to waste an nk! Gah!

Ironically, if both witches reveal people might assume one if a symp and lynch them both

AmpelAlt:

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Egh, so on top of my ridiculous working ours I have the worlds crappiest wireless internet until my router gets fixed. Anyway, just want to say the setup looks really good, things should get really interesting after a couple of nights, once the killers and cult get into the swing of things. Definitely some nice mechanics, I think there are a lot of roles on the list that would be a lot of fun to play. And Mockra/Meanas (my avatars are switched off to make the pages load faster, makes things confusing) is Mentalist - he's ridiculously easy to spot