[Camel]

There's a bar across the street from my apartment called "Big Chicks". Incidentally, it's a gay bar.

As for fat people, I don't have a problem with anyone being "overweight". There's a huge difference between being overweight and being FAT. To me, it's state of mind.

If you're overweight and you're okay with that, then I'm okay with that. If you're overweight or obese and all you do is bitch about how fat you are and how nobody likes you because you're fat, then you're fat, and I despise you.

There are legitimate hormone and health reasons for being overweight, but those are a lot less common, I think, than we're led to believe. I think many doctors don't want to say to their patients "You're fat" so they say "Oh, you have a hormone imbalance" and send them off with some sugar pills so the patients stay happy and can have an excuse for eating like pigs. If you're fat because you're lazy and eat too much and never work out, then it's your own fucking fault. Get off your ass. Get off the bus two stops early and walk a few blocks. Walk up the stairs instead of taking the elevator. Get a dog and walk it a mile every day. Eat less steak and more salad. I mean, you don't have to go overboard with anything, but just by walking a mile a day -- just walking! -- and eating in moderation, you'll lose a ton of weight by this time next year. It's not hard, people.

At the same time, if you're obsessive about your weight, chill out. It's not the end of the world if you're a few pounds heavier than you want to be. Not every girl has to be Jennifer Anniston or Angelina Jolie. There's something to be said for "real" girls. Like someone said earlier, it's all about perception. The reason a lot of overweight guys still get chicks is because they take care of themselves. They bathe, they brush their teeth, they dress appropriately. If that's you, then keep on keeping on!

Bottom line: if you're overweight and not happy about it, work out, modify your diet, whatever -- you're the only one who can change that. If you're overweight and happy with your life, then more power to you and pass the potatoes, please.

[Anomander]

Personally, I would really recommend against going up to people and telling them they're fat. You're going to get your ass kicked a whole lot doing that, and you'll deserve it too.

I have no problem with people who are a little overweight, it's when you're excessively fat that I take issue. Seriously obese people disgust me because I can't understand how anyone would let themselves go that badly. Granted, I'm not the thinnest of people but I am going to the gym and trying to eat right to shed some pounds. Those who just don't moderate what they eat nor bother being active deserve to be the size they are and to suffer the health problems. There are some with a genuine genetic problem, and I sympathize with them, but the vast majority of obese people don't have that excuse. As Camel said, simple things like picking healthier things to eat and walking more will do wonders for your weight problems if you stick with it.

[Mezla PigDog]

Fuel to the discussion. Link: Too fat to adopt

[caladanbrood]

According to BMI calculation, I'm right on the limit between normal weight and overweight... and I always thought I was fat. HA!

(http://www.nhlbisupp...bmi/bmicalc.htm)

[Dancer+]

That's ridiculous, I'm overweight - just about. Even at 6'2 1/2 apparently 90kg is overweight, my body % is less than 10. I hate these ridiculous calculations which don't take into account muscle.

[Terez]

Dancer, on Jan 12 2009, 05:02 PM, said:

That's ridiculous, I'm overweight - just about. Even at 6'2 1/2 apparently 90kg is overweight, my body % is less than 10. I hate these ridiculous calculations which don't take into account muscle.

Or breasts.

[caladanbrood]

Curse those breasts!

[HoosierDaddy]

Terez, on Jan 12 2009, 06:48 PM, said:

Dancer, on Jan 12 2009, 05:02 PM, said:

That's ridiculous, I'm overweight - just about. Even at 6'2 1/2 apparently 90kg is overweight, my body % is less than 10. I hate these ridiculous calculations which don't take into account muscle.

Or breasts.

Or third-legs. What?

I used to have a massive metabolic rate. Combined with smoking, I could eat anything I wanted and never gain weight. I lost 35 pounds over 3 days when I came down with appendicitis. Then I got old. And quit smoking. Now I have to start working out and I don't like it!

[frookenhauer]

Hey Guys! I was mostly kidding about telling people they are fat, especially if they are strangers. I'll just stick to the people that I'd like and be as diplomatic as manly possible...For example:

On the football pitch "Oi fat boy, pass the ball!"...hold on, football pitch? okay scratch that idea...Hmm

Tell you what I find rather silly. You're at the dinner table with people and the fattest person on the table has the smallest portion and also leaves a lot of it on the plate, er, we aren't dumb. As soon as they get home, out come the pringles and whatnot!

At present my waist is decidedly narrower than my shoulders and I want to stay that way, but I love chocolate and chicken and waffles and all manner of tasty things, how long have I got left before people can roll me down the street? (Lets not forget chips) I'm planning on never.

To the Gym tomorrow.

As an aside, if I were to tell a fatty they were fat I'm still nimble enough to get away from ponderous behemoths...Just.

Edit: That's the thing for us oldsters init, exercise and training.

This post has been edited by Frookenhauer : 13 January 2009 - 12:45 AM

[Mezla PigDog]

Frookenhauer, on Jan 12 2009, 08:44 PM, said:

Tell you what I find rather silly. You're at the dinner table with people and the fattest person on the table has the smallest portion and also leaves a lot of it on the plate, er, we aren't dumb. As soon as they get home, out come the pringles and whatnot!

I have a friend at work like that. We've been out for meals and stayed together on conferences and stuff and she always picks at her food and says she hasn't got an appetite. She's a real porker so she must pack it away somewhere in secret! My sister had a housemate who was similar. She was always on diets and used to make a big fuss over not eating much. Every now and then my sister would come across a huge stash of chocolate wrappers in the flat. The poor beggars are obviously so hung about it that they hide what they really eat. Which goes to show, nobody needs to pick on them because they must feel pretty crappy to act like that.

[frookenhauer]

Or a kick up the backside. Horses for courses.

[teholbeddict]

Frookenhauer, on Jan 12 2009, 06:44 PM, said:

Tell you what I find rather silly. You're at the dinner table with people and the fattest person on the table has the smallest portion and also leaves a lot of it on the plate, er, we aren't dumb. As soon as they get home, out come the pringles and whatnot!

I agree with you on this one frookie! I have one friend in particular who's famous for this! We went out to eat this past weekend, all the rest of say we are starving and are making pigs of ourselves. She's sitting there saying she's not really hungry and orders a salad and is only drinking water! She's not a small girl by any means which is no big deal to me, and we've been friends forever. I know she doesn't eat like that on a day to day basis! She loves to bake (and eat what she bakes), her booze and Chinese. We go out for dinner with a group of girls and she eats half a salad?! Who eats half a salad ever? Well I dropped her off at home and I'm sure she went straight to the fridge, because we'd been out all day and the only thing she ate was that salad, washed down by the water! I feel badly that she thinks she has to put on this whole act. She doesn't really do it if it's just the two of us, but in a group outing she'll do it every time! Maybe she just feels pressured by the other females to prove something. I'm not sure what, but it's very sad. I can't imagine paying for a dinner, not eating it and then going home to eat again!

[Mentalist]

hmm

I realize i've probably gained weight recently--ever since December when exams started, I've done almost noghting exercise-wise (cept walking everywhere--but i've been doing that since like Grade 2)

I can tell I've gained weight
however, I've never bothered to seek out an actual scales to verify how much. and i'm not bothered by it.
going by Frook's "waist v shoulders" principle, i'm a long way to go before i'm accused of being fat,

I do need to get more active (figure out a weekly swim schedule), but it's winter.
I always lose weigth in the summer when I work and eat properly nad regularly b/c I live at home. so it's a cyclical thing.

like most people here I don't have a problem with fat people, unless they are grossly overweight--that leaves me puzzled, more than anything.

This post has been edited by Mentalist: 13 January 2009 - 07:51 PM

[frookenhauer]

Go to america, you'll find you are puzzled about half the time you're there. Come to England and you'll be puzzled about a third of the time. Burgers were invented in America? Hmmm, interesting.

[HoosierDaddy]

Depends on where you go in America Frook.

[frookenhauer]

I was using a very wide brush there Hoosier old buddy to tarnish thine rep

[HoosierDaddy]

Frookenhauer, on Jan 13 2009, 05:04 PM, said:

I was using a very wide brush there Hoosier old buddy to tarnish thine rep

Indiana would be one of those places though, Frook!

[Mezla PigDog]

Frookenhauer, on Jan 13 2009, 05:48 PM, said:

Go to america, you'll find you are puzzled about half the time you're there. Come to England and you'll be puzzled about a third of the time. Burgers were invented in America? Hmmm, interesting.

You know, it isn't surprising how the Yanks get so porky. I just had my first exposure to the Cheesecake Factory and I still feel sick 3 hours later. It's not that it didn't taste good. It tasted so good I couldn't stop, even when I started to feel nauseous. One can't leave a slice of cake unfinished, it would be rude!!

[frookenhauer]

HoosierDaddy, on Jan 13 2009, 10:06 PM, said:

Frookenhauer, on Jan 13 2009, 05:04 PM, said:

I was using a very wide brush there Hoosier old buddy to tarnish thine rep

Indiana would be one of those places though, Frook!

ROFLBAN- No I will not stoop to saying banshee after rofl Vey Good Hoosiuer, but I had a friend who stayed in Right next door to you guys and he said things were okay there, this is going back a few years though

Mezla! America will be the end of you...or just the beginning of a newer 'improved', er 'upgraded', how about divided by a number less than zero, you! (BTW Please don't take offense it took me an awful long time to come up with those )

[HoosierDaddy]

The Midwest is full of large people. Indiana is one of the fattest states in the union, iirc.