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Edit: cross-post with PS. Well then, Tyrllan, you don't have to justify anything. Just that you were dumb and are paying for it
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 09:03 AM
Hmmmpff. Whatever, I won't argue too much since I agree if there was a deflected find, it's the bodyguard's role PM that should have appeared. Just found it strange.
Edit: cross-post with PS. Well then, Tyrllan, you don't have to justify anything. Just that you were dumb and are paying for it
Edit: cross-post with PS. Well then, Tyrllan, you don't have to justify anything. Just that you were dumb and are paying for it
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 09:17 AM
Before I go to bed:
I would lynch Thyrllan. I would dearly love to lynch him, because of his role as an opposition leader of my faction. But I won't since there is the fact that Julii then gets to recruitand that would be bad in the power struggle... So,
Vote Kessobahn
We should push for a lynch, and he is, for some reason, under the radar since Thyrllan was revealed as a faction leader.
Right, night all.
I would lynch Thyrllan. I would dearly love to lynch him, because of his role as an opposition leader of my faction. But I won't since there is the fact that Julii then gets to recruitand that would be bad in the power struggle... So,
Vote Kessobahn
We should push for a lynch, and he is, for some reason, under the radar since Thyrllan was revealed as a faction leader.
Right, night all.
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 09:18 AM
You guys really believe MA has the same recruit limitation?
Having leaders that can't recruit until one of them manages to bite the other's nose would make it very unbalanced assuming the other factions can recruit in the mean time. That would mean they start with a massive numerical advantage or the other factions have similar restrictions.
I believe it's more probable MA can recruit from the start, and Octavian can usurp his power by killing him. That would make me want to vote for one of those who wanted to vote Thyrllan off.
Liosan, in particular, put his vote even after that the logic that there was no point lynching Thyrllan was pointed out by a few players. Plus, he only has 5 posts so far. In a day 1 of a faction game, with little to go around and not really looking for scum, getting rid of the non-contributers early has been in my mind as a valid strategy from the start.
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Having leaders that can't recruit until one of them manages to bite the other's nose would make it very unbalanced assuming the other factions can recruit in the mean time. That would mean they start with a massive numerical advantage or the other factions have similar restrictions.
I believe it's more probable MA can recruit from the start, and Octavian can usurp his power by killing him. That would make me want to vote for one of those who wanted to vote Thyrllan off.
Liosan, in particular, put his vote even after that the logic that there was no point lynching Thyrllan was pointed out by a few players. Plus, he only has 5 posts so far. In a day 1 of a faction game, with little to go around and not really looking for scum, getting rid of the non-contributers early has been in my mind as a valid strategy from the start.
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 09:20 AM
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That also a good candidate, specially since he's the only one that backed up after Thyrllan was accusing players voting for him of being MA. Hitting close from home?
I'm around until day time-out, so open to change.
That also a good candidate, specially since he's the only one that backed up after Thyrllan was accusing players voting for him of being MA. Hitting close from home?
I'm around until day time-out, so open to change.
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 09:29 AM
It is day 1.
You have 10 hours and 30 minutes.
11 votes needed to lynch, 10 votes needed for night.
1 player has voted for Liosan (Emurlahn)
1 players has voted for Ampelas (Shadow)
1 player has voted for D'riss (Kessobahn)
4 players have voted for Kessobahn (Thyrllan, D’riss, Omtose, Serc)
3 players have voted for Thyrllan (Kaschan, Liosan, Mockra)
10 players have not voted: HP, Fener, Tennes, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, , Silanah, Rashan, Korlat, Ruse, Ampelas,
You have 10 hours and 30 minutes.
11 votes needed to lynch, 10 votes needed for night.
1 player has voted for Liosan (Emurlahn)
1 players has voted for Ampelas (Shadow)
1 player has voted for D'riss (Kessobahn)
4 players have voted for Kessobahn (Thyrllan, D’riss, Omtose, Serc)
3 players have voted for Thyrllan (Kaschan, Liosan, Mockra)
10 players have not voted: HP, Fener, Tennes, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, , Silanah, Rashan, Korlat, Ruse, Ampelas,
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 09:33 AM
Vote: Kessobahn
I think its best we push for a lynch on him as hes the only lead that alot of us agree on.
I dont believe that MA has recruitment powers so with that logic, we should not Lynch Thyrllan until MA is dead.
Then we can lynch him, eliminating both leaders hopefully.
I think its best we push for a lynch on him as hes the only lead that alot of us agree on.
I dont believe that MA has recruitment powers so with that logic, we should not Lynch Thyrllan until MA is dead.
Then we can lynch him, eliminating both leaders hopefully.
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 09:54 AM
Path-Shaper, on Jan 5 2009, 11:51 PM, said:
The debate on the senate floor between the various faction leaders is heated, and senators shout their approval, scream their outrage, applaud their leaders and booh their opponents, they whisper in the walkways, using their leverage and calling on favours. Then, all of a sudden, a single man takes to the floor of the Senate, shouting over the general noise.
“My fellow Senators, we are supposed to be Rome’s wisdom, Rome’s guides, not Rome’s fishmongers! Yet, what I see here is nothing short of a disgrace!”
“Good old Cicero, always there to brighten our day,” the senator next to you mumbles. His comment echoes through the senate, coming just when the old orator inhales visibly, shaking on his feet with anger.
“Brutus, Anthony, Octavian, the Pontifex, all these glorious leaders of our Senate… look at them! Shouting their best offers, brazenly displaying their wares… if I want to hear such things, see such a show, I could get a much cheaper deal with a prostitute on the Palatine! And you, you… actually see virtue here?”
He points towards your neighbour.
“Take him, for example, he who just felt the need to mock me. What has he ever done in his life? Let me tell you!
“Octavianus, not even a man yet but still presuming to speak to this assembly… the folly. Caesar’s heir, but what did you inherit, boy?
Nothing except that which Marcus Anthonius would allow you to have! There’s a brilliant mind, but better get your affairs in order at home, my young friend, and leave the politics to your betters. What can you do, but hide behind the back of a man willing to protect you from the barbs and daggers pointed at you by Anthony?”
Thyrllan is Octavianus of the Julii faction
You are young Octavianus, Caesar's nephew and his heir. You and Marc Anthony are embroiled in a fierce battle over control of the Julii faction. You (and your faction) win when the Julii have achieved a majority in the council and Marc Anthony is dead. Your role has the following benefits:
Day Power: each morning, you learn the identity of every Julii alt in the game, except for the player who is Marc Anthony.
Day Power: you can target a fellow Julii. This Julii will be your bodyguard. Any day and night actions targeting you will target that player instead for as long as the player is alive.
Night Power: When (and only then) Marc Anthony is dead, you will be able to recruit for the Julii faction.
Passive Power: You cannot be recruited by other factions.
“My fellow Senators, we are supposed to be Rome’s wisdom, Rome’s guides, not Rome’s fishmongers! Yet, what I see here is nothing short of a disgrace!”
“Good old Cicero, always there to brighten our day,” the senator next to you mumbles. His comment echoes through the senate, coming just when the old orator inhales visibly, shaking on his feet with anger.
“Brutus, Anthony, Octavian, the Pontifex, all these glorious leaders of our Senate… look at them! Shouting their best offers, brazenly displaying their wares… if I want to hear such things, see such a show, I could get a much cheaper deal with a prostitute on the Palatine! And you, you… actually see virtue here?”
He points towards your neighbour.
“Take him, for example, he who just felt the need to mock me. What has he ever done in his life? Let me tell you!
“Octavianus, not even a man yet but still presuming to speak to this assembly… the folly. Caesar’s heir, but what did you inherit, boy?
Nothing except that which Marcus Anthonius would allow you to have! There’s a brilliant mind, but better get your affairs in order at home, my young friend, and leave the politics to your betters. What can you do, but hide behind the back of a man willing to protect you from the barbs and daggers pointed at you by Anthony?”
Thyrllan is Octavianus of the Julii faction
You are young Octavianus, Caesar's nephew and his heir. You and Marc Anthony are embroiled in a fierce battle over control of the Julii faction. You (and your faction) win when the Julii have achieved a majority in the council and Marc Anthony is dead. Your role has the following benefits:
Day Power: each morning, you learn the identity of every Julii alt in the game, except for the player who is Marc Anthony.
Day Power: you can target a fellow Julii. This Julii will be your bodyguard. Any day and night actions targeting you will target that player instead for as long as the player is alive.
Night Power: When (and only then) Marc Anthony is dead, you will be able to recruit for the Julii faction.
Passive Power: You cannot be recruited by other factions.
fuck me i guess its that time again.
first off.
vote thyrllan
Did any of you read this? Marc anthony can clearly recruit for the julii from the start, this bullshit line of thyrllans that they are matched is clearly wrong. Anthony is clearly the leader and can recruit from the start of the game. The reason julii dont want octavian dead is because if we remove both him and marc anthony the julii are finished as they can no longer recruit. Given that they have two leaders they most likely have fewer starting players, so thyrllan knows probably four other julii, or his power doesnt activate properly until tomorrow.
Its pretty clear that emurlahn and silanah are julii as they are desperate to push a lynch away from thyrllan a confirmed leader of the julii.
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 10:01 AM
I'll be in a meeting that's scheduled for the next 90 minutes (hopefully a lot less ).
No mod control up until I'm back, unless Morgoth pops in.
If the magic number of 11 votes is reached before I'm back, please consider it night.
Now would also be a good time to consider provisionals for night actions.
It is day 1.
You have 9 hours and 0 minutes.
11 votes needed to lynch, 10 votes needed for night.
1 player has voted for Liosan (Emurlahn)
1 players has voted for Ampelas (Shadow)
1 player has voted for D'riss (Kessobahn)
5 players have voted for Kessobahn (Thyrllan, D’riss, Omtose, Serc, Silanah)
4 players have voted for Thyrllan (Kaschan, Liosan, Mockra, Rashan)
8 players have not voted: HP, Fener, Tennes, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Rashan, Korlat, Ruse, Ampelas
).No mod control up until I'm back, unless Morgoth pops in.
If the magic number of 11 votes is reached before I'm back, please consider it night.
Now would also be a good time to consider provisionals for night actions.
It is day 1.
You have 9 hours and 0 minutes.
11 votes needed to lynch, 10 votes needed for night.
1 player has voted for Liosan (Emurlahn)
1 players has voted for Ampelas (Shadow)
1 player has voted for D'riss (Kessobahn)
5 players have voted for Kessobahn (Thyrllan, D’riss, Omtose, Serc, Silanah)
4 players have voted for Thyrllan (Kaschan, Liosan, Mockra, Rashan)
8 players have not voted: HP, Fener, Tennes, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Rashan, Korlat, Ruse, Ampelas
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 10:02 AM
I can say that I am not Julii.
The only reason that I would not want to lynch Thyrllan is that I believe that Neither of them have recruiting powers right now so its better to keep them both alive.
It would be nice if you could point out where it clearly states that MA has recruitment powers. If you can do that then I can gladly change my vote.
But your sudden outlash leads me to believe that you are indeed, MA. Lynching Thyrllan would just give recruitment powers.
The only reason that I would not want to lynch Thyrllan is that I believe that Neither of them have recruiting powers right now so its better to keep them both alive.
It would be nice if you could point out where it clearly states that MA has recruitment powers. If you can do that then I can gladly change my vote.
But your sudden outlash leads me to believe that you are indeed, MA. Lynching Thyrllan would just give recruitment powers.
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 10:06 AM
his first day power is to learn the alt of every julii - he will know when new players join and old ones are recrutied.
Therefore the julii must be growing on a nightly basis. ergo marc anthony has recruiting power.
Fact is we have a confirmed leader and you dont want him dead, i smell fishiness and julii guilt.
Therefore the julii must be growing on a nightly basis. ergo marc anthony has recruiting power.
Fact is we have a confirmed leader and you dont want him dead, i smell fishiness and julii guilt.
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 10:12 AM
His power to know who is a member of the faction in the morning can be a power of MA as well.
It may only be useful once one of them is dead and they can recruit.
Julii might not be growing on a nightly basis as the other 2 factions might recruit members of Julii.
It may only be useful once one of them is dead and they can recruit.
Julii might not be growing on a nightly basis as the other 2 factions might recruit members of Julii.
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 10:17 AM
as far as kessobahn goes the case seems to be he is an annoying spammer who pretended to be from foreign climes, and thats it. Not all of us agree on it, five of you do, one of them the julii leader octavian. I think serc only added his vote after the reveal so he is going on the list as julli as well.
Oh and, if i was marc anthony i wouldnt be exposing my teammates so ruthlessly.
Oh and, if i was marc anthony i wouldnt be exposing my teammates so ruthlessly.
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 10:18 AM
Silanah, on Jan 6 2009, 10:12 AM, said:
His power to know who is a member of the faction in the morning can be a power of MA as well.
It may only be useful once one of them is dead and they can recruit.
Julii might not be growing on a nightly basis as the other 2 factions might recruit members of Julii.
It may only be useful once one of them is dead and they can recruit.
Julii might not be growing on a nightly basis as the other 2 factions might recruit members of Julii.
yeah thats a really useful power in that case....................................................................
julii scum.
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 10:20 AM
tell you what then silanah, as a compromise, because obviously day vigs or night kills know who octo is now.
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vote silanah
julii scum. thats as fara s case building as i feel is necessary.
remove vote
vote silanah
julii scum. thats as fara s case building as i feel is necessary.
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 10:25 AM
You seem to think that im Julii when I dont believe ive done anything to be so.
I will explain it for you a third time...
To lynch Thyrllan would allow MA to have recruitment powers from what I believe.
So I think it would be best if we lynched someone else and tried to figure out who MA is.
Once we do so, we lynch him and then Thyrllan, eliminating both threats.
You seem to be pushing quite hard for Thyrllan to be lynched which leads me to believe that you are MA trying to gain recruitment rights.
The winning conditions state that Julii cannot win while either MA or Octavianus is alive which means that MA is not a leader but that they are equal.
I feel we should lynch Kessobahn as he seems to be the most liable victim and everyone seems to have hopped aboard the lynch train
But if the tides turn and everyone starts voting for Thyrllan, ill reluctantly change my vote as I believe it will give the Julii faction more power.
I will explain it for you a third time...
To lynch Thyrllan would allow MA to have recruitment powers from what I believe.
So I think it would be best if we lynched someone else and tried to figure out who MA is.
Once we do so, we lynch him and then Thyrllan, eliminating both threats.
You seem to be pushing quite hard for Thyrllan to be lynched which leads me to believe that you are MA trying to gain recruitment rights.
The winning conditions state that Julii cannot win while either MA or Octavianus is alive which means that MA is not a leader but that they are equal.
I feel we should lynch Kessobahn as he seems to be the most liable victim and everyone seems to have hopped aboard the lynch train
But if the tides turn and everyone starts voting for Thyrllan, ill reluctantly change my vote as I believe it will give the Julii faction more power.
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 10:29 AM
Rashan, on Jan 6 2009, 11:54 AM, said:
fuck me i guess its that time again.
first off.
vote thyrllan
Did any of you read this? Marc anthony can clearly recruit for the julii from the start, this bullshit line of thyrllans that they are matched is clearly wrong. Anthony is clearly the leader and can recruit from the start of the game. The reason julii dont want octavian dead is because if we remove both him and marc anthony the julii are finished as they can no longer recruit. Given that they have two leaders they most likely have fewer starting players, so thyrllan knows probably four other julii, or his power doesnt activate properly until tomorrow.
Its pretty clear that emurlahn and silanah are julii as they are desperate to push a lynch away from thyrllan a confirmed leader of the julii.
first off.
vote thyrllan
Did any of you read this? Marc anthony can clearly recruit for the julii from the start, this bullshit line of thyrllans that they are matched is clearly wrong. Anthony is clearly the leader and can recruit from the start of the game. The reason julii dont want octavian dead is because if we remove both him and marc anthony the julii are finished as they can no longer recruit. Given that they have two leaders they most likely have fewer starting players, so thyrllan knows probably four other julii, or his power doesnt activate properly until tomorrow.
Its pretty clear that emurlahn and silanah are julii as they are desperate to push a lynch away from thyrllan a confirmed leader of the julii.
What? You say yourself that MA can recruit right now, and vote for one that you know not to be able to recruit? What is this "leader" thing you obsess about? What in the role PM makes you want Thyrllan dead, besides the fact he's Julii? He can't even be recruited, so we know that info stands until the end, we can lynch him anytime we want.
As long as MA is alive, Thyrllan is harmless. If he gets targeted at night for a kill, then another Julii might probably die for him, so if you're not Julii why you want him dead?
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Posted 06 January 2009 - 10:31 AM
I, for one, believe (like Rashan, ironically) that MA can recruit, which is why I would prefer to try and lynch MA right now instead of the one we know is Octavian.
Which is the point where I fail to see Rashan's logic, assuming he has any.
Which is the point where I fail to see Rashan's logic, assuming he has any.
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Silanah, on Jan 6 2009, 12:25 PM, said:
You seem to think that im Julii when I dont believe ive done anything to be so.
I will explain it for you a third time...
To lynch Thyrllan would allow MA to have recruitment powers from what I believe.
So I think it would be best if we lynched someone else and tried to figure out who MA is.
Once we do so, we lynch him and then Thyrllan, eliminating both threats.
You seem to be pushing quite hard for Thyrllan to be lynched which leads me to believe that you are MA trying to gain recruitment rights.
The winning conditions state that Julii cannot win while either MA or Octavianus is alive which means that MA is not a leader but that they are equal.
I feel we should lynch Kessobahn as he seems to be the most liable victim and everyone seems to have hopped aboard the lynch train
But if the tides turn and everyone starts voting for Thyrllan, ill reluctantly change my vote as I believe it will give the Julii faction more power.
I will explain it for you a third time...
To lynch Thyrllan would allow MA to have recruitment powers from what I believe.
So I think it would be best if we lynched someone else and tried to figure out who MA is.
Once we do so, we lynch him and then Thyrllan, eliminating both threats.
You seem to be pushing quite hard for Thyrllan to be lynched which leads me to believe that you are MA trying to gain recruitment rights.
The winning conditions state that Julii cannot win while either MA or Octavianus is alive which means that MA is not a leader but that they are equal.
I feel we should lynch Kessobahn as he seems to be the most liable victim and everyone seems to have hopped aboard the lynch train
But if the tides turn and everyone starts voting for Thyrllan, ill reluctantly change my vote as I believe it will give the Julii faction more power.
Perhaps you can explain to me. Why do you think MA doesn't have recruiting powers? Why would there be a cult game with 3 cults as confirmed by the Mods. And there be a cult that can't recruit? Why would you not be able to recruit till one of the two leaders was dead? That might not happen for several days. Its bullshit.
Why are you so sure that they can't recruit?
And why are you so keen to lynch Kesso? How do you know he's not on your team? Oh yeah thats right he voted for Thyrllan so wouldn't be.
To be honest though Thyrllan is pretty toothless since we all know he can't do much, we can wait till MA is killed and we can turn on him. That said I'm not sure who else to vote for. We know he's going to be lynched, so why bother delaying.
