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Bause - Lepidus

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Hmmmmm Im wondering does thyrllan have a different victory condition, because as a memeber of the julii i would assume he'd win when we win even if he's dead and That role reveal find didnt mention anything else but he seems to be gunning for Marc anthony to be killed.
Hopefully he doesnt have a different win condition and is actually throwing out names he thinks arent in julii and he wont be stupid enough to use the bodyguard ability and will just die quietly. I think il stay quiet for a bit longer still

Thyrllan has the exact same victory conditions as the other Julii, who cannot win when both Anthony and Octavian are alive. The one who lives when victory is claimed, wins.

Ahhhh thats what i wanted to know, So if both die do neither of them win or do they both win if we manage to win Damn it that means he's going to use that damn bodyguard ability probably and cost it for us. I'd lynch him if I could but I cant damn passive power

Hehe, in all honesty, I don't see why I should tell you, as it isn't relevant to your own winning conditions, and it might influence your play if I do say how it's resolved. Rest assured, the mods know what happens then.

Fair enough
ooooh one thing I would like clarified, if he does use the bodyguard ability and I guard him, do I end up guarding and healing his bodyguard instead, even if that be me ?

Yes.

Cool, I think il keep my provisional on him then to keep the rest of us alive and hope people lynch him eventually, Or I could kill him, now that i know he doesnt have a bodyguard at the moment (even with the downside)... gaaaah dilemma, think il stick with the healing at the moment on him as a provisional

He can appoint a bodyguard at any time during the day, even if it is 1 second before the final lynch vote is made, or daytime runs out.

Provisional is noted.

Oki , in case the Julii win but both Anthony and Octavian are dead, they both win.
In case one of them is dead and Julii win, the dead guy loses.

Also, Ruse's heal + guard will be bounced to himself by Octavian's ability, even though Lepidus isn't able to target himself or anyone but MA and Octavian with this action.
In all honesty, if they let Octavian live, there's a perfect outcome for the Julii under the circumstances.
Ruse gains a 1-kill resist through his heal, so Octavian needs to be targeted by 2 kills or 1 night guard + 1 kill in order to die and Benthony is free to recruit.
Moreover, Ruse cannot vote for Thyrllan Who through the Patrician's ability should it come to an Octavian lynch the next day.

[Morgoth]

this is developing into such a beautifull, confused chaos of a game. I cannot help but giggle just a bit

[Path-Shaper]

DiBshan is enjoying himself:

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Thriumphator – Republican
You are a War Hero: a man of skill and virtue who has proven himself in countless campaigns and earned a Triumph. You aided in the murder against Caesar, for he overstepped his bounds, but now that the Julii and Brutii bicker, you see their ambition grow, and they may be no better than Caesar was.

Passive Powers: You have two bulletproofs to night kills, one lynch proof and one proof against recruitment. You will be informed of any attempts against you that expend these proofs.

Day Power: you can sacrifice a lynch proof and reveal yourself to perform a kill on a target alt. Night will then start immediately. Make sure you copy/paste this text into your reveal. This power is subject to the fact that you cannot reveal until the start of day 3!

Night Power: you can sacrifice a night kill bulletproof to perform a night-time Guard that blocks all abilities of an alt you send to the mods.

so starting to get on peoples nerves, fake symping kess and trying to rile people up, hopefully wwaste marc anthonys recruitment tonight

will i find out which faction attempted to target me.

also given octavian gets every name, are other leaders accorded the same courtesy?

Aggressiveness is noted and appreciated. Morgoth will send you kisses and flowers for fulfilling his dreams, he's been wanting you riled up since he saw the role distribution.

No you won't find out which faction targeted you. A knife in the dark is a knife in the dark.
Not going to say yes or no to the knowing-the-names thing. Let's say that info is scarce for everyone.

yeah but someone licking my balls with promises of rome ina certain flavour is hard not to notice. dont carwe hwo tries to kill me, want to know about the recruitment attempt. plus no reveal until day 3 ....... booo!!!!!

how could i not be a cunt when i have lynch immunity, yu think i am going to waste that no chance.... unless emur is alive day 3

And Jump erlan isn't enjoying DiBs:

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Well, Rashan is dibs, that for sure

Honestly, I'm thinking hard, and I'm not a Julii, but why the heck would I want to lynch Thyrllan today?

I know he likes to bully people around even by saying things he doesn't really believe, I hope this is one of these times because otherwise one of us is a little off the game, assuming he's not a Julii either.

[Path-Shaper]

And since I haven't posted it yet: Kessogrief's celebration message. The boy was high on Pepsi, probably
It was called:

FUCK ME, I rule!

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Ocatavius!
I rule!

Except, that gives the Juliis(well, Marc) the advantage. He kills, nothing tos top them winning.
And, if they're overpowered to make up for the disadvantage.

Still, SHITSTORM!

Im happy, and ive found a rivals leader. Now, to bed.

Hehe, sleep tight.
I'll have to face a shitstorm, I think

Tbh, im probably still gonan die.
They'll leave oct to marc, I expect.

For survival, bad person to hit.
For awesomenesss, awesome person to hit.

We'll see

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J_Ampelas, not too happy. I told him to belt up.

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Passive Power: you know the identity of Lepidus (Ruse). You may not reveal his identity or allegiance on topic and you may not vote for him.[/i]

Err if I get recruited does this still apply?

Yup. You can't reveal him, vote for him or say he's a Brutii.
You can use all your abilities, including the kill (should you have targeted yourself with that one), on him though.

Fuck but that is a bitch and a half!

You lot must really be enjoying this..... last merc game I was in our fearless leader pissed everyone off on day 1 and this time round we have an apparent noob, probably morgoth45 as one of our 'leaders'

Nothing's lost yet
Aside from grinning widely, I must say though that we're very happy with the way developments ehm, develop right now. In that light, I disagree with you on your fearless hero, I think he was doing well up until the forced reveal, which is a righteous bitch for anyone being targeted by it.

[Path-Shaper]

Ampelas

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Nothing's lost yet wink.gif
Aside from grinning widely, I must say though that we're very happy with the way developments ehm, develop right now. In that light, I disagree with you on your fearless hero, I think he was doing well up until the forced reveal, which is a righteous bitch for anyone being targeted by it.


forced reveal? are we talking about the same game here?

Agh nvm, I think giving him the kill power would be good though, but only if I could pass along a message in the process

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Benter is worried:

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Is he allowed to tell who isn't Julii? I mean technically hes hurting his team.

He could well be lying.
He has asked me if he could say stuff about other people's alignment, including lies, I allowed him.

Reasoning:
If he isn't believed but speaking the truth, he saves people unless finder(s) waste(s) actions to find out. If he is lying and not believed, a finder(s) need(s) to waste actions to find out. If he is lying and believed, he saves other Julii. If he is speaking the truth and he's believed, you have a problem, though, but that's so with everyone.

I agree it's less than ideal, but that would describe his entire position, no?

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Morgoth, on Jan 6 2009, 01:29 PM, said:

this is developing into such a beautifull, confused chaos of a game. I cannot help but giggle just a bit

Hehe, didn't see you slip into SH.
Yes, the game is getting wonderfully chaotic, and this is just day 1.
I wonder how many of the players are still enjoying it at this particular moment

[Path-Shaper]

Titled 'Thank God for Dibs' by Mockra-Gavin, with my reply beneath.

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Presuming Rashan is Dibs. Thank god for that. I really wanted to post exactly what he posted, but trying to keep my nose out of it a little. I made a mistake already voting for Thyrllan early on. Misread the situation as I thought it would go smoothly against Thyr, damned if I can see how it hasn't.

Nice to see who the Julii are though, can probably lynch one tomorrow.

Anyway

Recruit Emurlahn for my night action. Its JA I believe and he's always handy to have I think he's Julii but he's covered himself enough to get out of it.


Was considering Gamelon as well but he's too low key and quiet.


I'm pretty sure Shadow is on my team, possibly my right hand man. I was meant to take a note of it, but forgot so can't remember why. Was kinda hoping my team would vote along with me a little but meh. I think Rashan might be as well, he's certainly providing me good cover if he ain't

Aye, you caught quite some heat for that early vote. Weird, cause it was what i would have done/ gone for, too. Had expected others to do so as well, but seeing how we're divided on the issue in SH, too, I guess there's something to be said for both approaches.

Provisional/NA is noted.

[Path-Shaper]

WOW the game has really started to get crazy with Thy's reveal. Loving it.

Vengeance

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 06 January 2009 - 03:03 PM

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Fener-Bent

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Can't blame you for lurking Must please you though, to see one of your major enemies exposed like this...

HAHAAHAH!! If I get the other hidden leader killed, I call out Brutus and Game over!.

Famous last words

Yeah, in a perfect world. LOL. And yeah sorry about the re-send. It was in my browser and I didn't think it sent. Time to go post and hope for the best.

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Path-Shaper, on Jan 6 2009, 03:54 PM, said:

WOW the game has really started to get crazy with Thy's reveal. Loving it.

Vengeance

Yeah, it's heating up nicely.
I like how suspicious JA is And perfect timing for Gavin's provisional recruit of him, straight after he's been 'cleared' by Sir Korlat.

[Path-Shaper]

In other news, of the 4 night-finders, only Yellow turned in a provisional. alt146 is busy (and not webconnected) at his new job, so can't post, but the other 2 are both guys from modcraft, iirc.

Either provisionals are not a modcraft thingie, or they're going to screw over their own faction hardcore if they can't/ won't log in. To a lesser extent, the same goes for Silanah... I can very well imagine him holding his kill instead of taking potshots blindly.

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Night actions galor...

Baudin - Fener

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I want to recruit Ruse. Go ahead and confirm this.

Galayn Lord

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Bribe Shadow. I was thinking about it since he seems to be thinking straight. And now he reveals that he knows more than I do... Gotta check that out.

Also, WTF is going on? I'm pretty sure there's more here than meets the eye, but I'm buggered if I know what it is.

Mental - Shadow

I made an executive decision. I thought that it would imply which power he has and would in essence be revealing.

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would it be classified as "revealing" if I said in-thread:

I can't say I have this power, obviously
but I can speculate that in teams other than Julii, some non-leader player may have the "passive power" to know who's on his team at the beginning of every day.

???

I am going to say yes. I would classify that as revealing. thumbdown.gif


Vengeance

ic. sux

anyhow, I'm off to catch my train

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 06 January 2009 - 04:46 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Kessobahn

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I hate you Cicero.

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After reading that, I was hoping it would provide me a big clue in finding out who Marc Anthony was as he would be the person with the very most to gain from a Octavianus lynch. But too many people have gone there. So it makes it tricky.

My view of matters is that by killing me, you provide Marc Anthony with the power to recruit, as I was under the assumption that our powers would be symmetrical. Based on information I have about Julii numbers, I doubt that he would have the ability to recruit yet as that could see Julii growing very quickly and would be, well, a bit broken. Killing me on day one would essentially give the Julii under Marc Anthony a huge advantage in the game. It also provides you with very little information. You know that I cannot recruit, and hence have nothing to worry about on that front unless you should kill Marc Anthony. You know the abilities that I have. I don't see that lynching me makes sense at all, especially given my admittedly biased point of view.

Oh and just to reiterate: I hate you Cicero.

I think I'll keep this for later.

Im so happy biggrin.gif

Kesso again...

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I think im safe enough atm.

Ive also made myself an unlikely NK, with some luck, and people may come to think someone with a decent role wouldnt do something like that.

So, im gonna lay low for a bit, since I reckon if I pipe up, I may still be de-railed onto.

They've seen the obvious advantage of keeping Oct alive, until we find MA. Hopefully a MA hunt will commence, leading to a Julii disadvantage. Having said that, I reckon a Julii will kill him. This gives MA recrtuitment, and Julii a possible advantage, depending on numbers.

[Path-Shaper]

Thanks for having my back, Venge

I like how in both provisionals, Bent is solely recruiting people already on his side First Ampelas, now Ruse.

Also, I really don't know how people come to expect that the Julii are the biggest faction and can't recruit until one of them is dead... the model that they have 1 recruiter and 1 backup is so much more sensible...

Galayn Lord's move makes sense. He won't learn Ment's alignment, though.

[Path-Shaper]

No problem.

Galayn lord should learn who Brutus is right. Wait will Galayn see the message that Mental is sending?

[Vengeance]

Have you written a scene for Rashan when he escapes from the lynch....Snicker... I predict cry's of Predator afterward.

[Path-Shaper]

Based on the ability,
Night Power: Once a night, target another player. You learn the nature of his power and his most recent target, but not the character's name (if any). You can use this ability three times in the entire game.

He'll learn this:

Night Power: you can send the mod a 1-line message and the name of an alt who is part of your faction. At the end of the night, the alt will receive the message, but not your identity.
This action was last used with Mockra as its target.

Nothing more, nothing less, I'd say.
Not very spectacular (I think this is one of the worst roles to actually get to see), and it may reinforce GL opinion that Shadow can be trusted when he speaks out

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Going to do some writing now