
Itkovian
#1
Posted 21 November 2008 - 03:44 AM
I am just curious to be totally honest, why don't people like Itkovian as much as other characters, ya he isn't action packed like Gruntle or Rake, but he does some pretty epic things which I don't want to go to into, not only that but he is possible the most emotional complex characters up till TotH (which im reading atm). I mean he holds a city for as long as possible, he gains the respect of almost everyone, and he finds himself questioning his vows to Fener. He is personally my favorite character in the series, anyhow I would like to hear other people opinions on this topic
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#2
Posted 21 November 2008 - 07:10 AM
What gives you the impression that people dislike Itkovian? I think it's accepted forumwide that Itkovian was an awesome character.
#3
Posted 21 November 2008 - 07:48 AM
Itkovian is not only my favourite character in the series, but he comes pretty close to being my favourite in the whole fantasy genre

O xein', angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti têde; keimetha tois keinon rhémasi peithomenoi.
#4
Posted 21 November 2008 - 12:23 PM
Itkovan is hands down my favourite character so far in the series (halfway through Midnight Tides). Then again MoI may be the best book I've ever read, so I may be a bit biased
. There are so many great characters in MoI, but Itkovian ranks at the top with Gruntle not far below. Big fan of Heboric and Toc the Younger after what happens in MoI and HoC as well.

This post has been edited by Eispeis: 21 November 2008 - 12:23 PM
#5
Posted 21 November 2008 - 02:44 PM
I really like Itkovian he's an excellent chracter. I'll spoiler this as you're reading TtH at the moment. My problem is [TTH spoiler]
Spoiler
I think that's what most people are referring to when they complain about him.
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-Bubbalicious -
Human progress is neither automatic nor inevitable… Every step toward the goal of justice requires sacrifice, suffering, and struggle; the tireless exertions and passionate concern of dedicated individuals.
- Martin Luther King, Jr-
The only thing one can learn from one's past mistakes is how to repeat them exactly.
-Stone Monkey-
Muffins are just ugly cupcakes!
-Zanth13-
#6
Posted 21 November 2008 - 06:18 PM
Itkovian may not be my favorite character in the series, that position being handed to the Fid, but that doesn't mean I don't love the guy. His POV in the siege was maybe the best read of my life. ofcourse Buke, Brukhalian, and definitely Gruntle contributed but Itkovian's POV was what really drove that section of the book. Don't worry though. It's as Apt said. Everyone on this forum loves Itkovian. Most people just love one or two other characters a little bit more. Again though, there are alot who rank him at the top.
#7
Posted 21 November 2008 - 08:06 PM
Sorry I feel as though I got my point across wrong, I did not mean so much that people dislike him, but that he just is as appreciated as other characters. I say this because (being new to the forums) I have looked at polls, posts, and such and he never gets as much recognition as other characters. Sorry if I worded my self wrong.

#8
Posted 21 November 2008 - 10:25 PM
Well that's just because you're much more likely to get a thread about who is a greater swordsman than about who is a more favoured character...
#9
Posted 21 November 2008 - 10:34 PM
Sometimes, I find my self asking... myself: What would Itkovian do?
The leader, his audience still,
considered their scholarly will.
He lowered his head
and with anguish he said,
"But how will we teach them to kill?"
-some poet on reddit
considered their scholarly will.
He lowered his head
and with anguish he said,
"But how will we teach them to kill?"
-some poet on reddit
#10
Posted 28 November 2008 - 12:04 PM
Are you kidding?
I can't even tell people about Itkovian without damn near breaking down into tears. I was heart broken at the end of MoI because he was so great. Between that and Whiskeyjack, I felt that life maybe was no longer worth living.
But I am not yet done.
I can't even tell people about Itkovian without damn near breaking down into tears. I was heart broken at the end of MoI because he was so great. Between that and Whiskeyjack, I felt that life maybe was no longer worth living.
But I am not yet done.

"As it turns out, the author is the most fickle of gods." -Me
#11
Posted 28 November 2008 - 05:22 PM
Whenever I hear or read the words "I am not yet done," I feel a little wrench at my heart. I too love Itkovian

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#12
Posted 28 November 2008 - 06:51 PM
I think if I ever got a tattoo, it would have to malazan-based, with "I am not yet done" written somewhere. Maybe in latin for geeks sake. He's that damn good a character.
O xein', angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti têde; keimetha tois keinon rhémasi peithomenoi.
#13
Posted 28 November 2008 - 07:16 PM
caladanbrood, on Nov 28 2008, 06:51 PM, said:
I think if I ever got a tattoo, it would have to malazan-based, with "I am not yet done" written somewhere. Maybe in latin for geeks sake. He's that damn good a character.
I'm going to get you drunk on Saturday, take you to Rambos and get this tatooed on your forehead.
I AM A TWAT
#14
Posted 05 December 2008 - 07:38 AM
I haven't read everything on this thread because I am only on MOI. I think that Itkovian is one of the best characters in the series. It made me cry when everyone including the T'lan Imass and Rake showed their respect to him. He was an amazing character and he may show up later and I hope he does. His death was; I think tragic after everthing he did for Capustan.
#16
Posted 07 December 2008 - 08:29 PM
I would rank Itkovian, alongside some characters from later in the series, as the strongest proof of Erikson's ability as a writer.
#17
Posted 17 December 2008 - 11:22 PM
Itkovian is a bad mother f'er
(Jen'isand Rul, the Wanderer within the Sword)
'I am the Shield Anvil.' I am Fener's grief. I am the world's grief. And I will hold. I will hold it all, for we are not yet done. <Itkovian>
'We are not born innocent, simply unmeasured.' <Hull Beddict>
'Because a god visits her, Fist. He comes to break her heart. Again and again.'<Nether>
'Fucking dragon.' <Fiddler>
Take my breath. But not this one, not this one. <Apsalar>
'Aye.' It's a good word. I think. More a whole attitude than a word, really. With lots of meaning in it, too. A bit of 'yes' and a bit of 'well fuck' and maybe some 'we're all in this together.' So a word to some up the Malazans. <Sunrise>
'I am the Shield Anvil.' I am Fener's grief. I am the world's grief. And I will hold. I will hold it all, for we are not yet done. <Itkovian>
'We are not born innocent, simply unmeasured.' <Hull Beddict>
'Because a god visits her, Fist. He comes to break her heart. Again and again.'<Nether>
'Fucking dragon.' <Fiddler>
Take my breath. But not this one, not this one. <Apsalar>
'Aye.' It's a good word. I think. More a whole attitude than a word, really. With lots of meaning in it, too. A bit of 'yes' and a bit of 'well fuck' and maybe some 'we're all in this together.' So a word to some up the Malazans. <Sunrise>
#18
Posted 18 December 2008 - 07:42 AM
You can say fucker here on the forum.
We even had a big discussion about it once
We even had a big discussion about it once

#19
Posted 18 December 2008 - 11:19 AM
Itkovian is a bad mother fucker
I want to die the way my dad died, peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
#20
Posted 18 December 2008 - 12:58 PM