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#1561 User is offline   Liosan 

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 12:24 PM

 Galain, on Nov 20 2008, 02:00 PM, said:

As you know, getting silenced tends to make things stick in your brain.

You almost lynch me you bastards :p I was screaming to my screen, I don't know if you heard it.


Did I almost lynch you? I can't recall having voted for you in some time

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 12:27 PM

Night is boring, but less than day of not allowed to post. I have to catch-up :p

So, let's see where we are. It's hard to find the cult recruit and possessed, but the original cult might appear by elimination. I haven't seen a reveal that I found reasons to doubt, so let's assume, at least for now, they are real.

NOT original cult:

Ruse: I'm happy Ruse is inno because I had that feeling, but I did stick my neck a bit too far for my own good. To be honest, the reason I didn't want him lynched is, if you remember, the time where he said he has been spamming spoiler heaven with fake actions to confuse the dead. Now, on the spot my jaw dropped because that was basically a roled player reveal (i.e. a big mistake), but since no-one mentioned anything I let is slide.

Telas: Cleared by Ruse's night action

Liosan,
Shadow: Quarreling lovers, and since Liosan has been cleared by the Tau machine AND Ruse, then they can't be the original cult lover pair with huge balls.


Galain: I was cleared by the Tau machine, since Liosan says if he Taus a cult, they would die. I'm still alive. On top of that, I can prove it on my own, but like I said let me wait to the morning to also give you a chance to pick up if I get possessed tonight.


That leaves:

Emur
Mockra
Gaylan Lord
Hoods Path


Hoods Path said he could innocent himself, interesting to see what he means, although I do have an idea. Gaylord revealed roleless inno, which in a dibs game is suspicious enough as it is, but tehn again so did Gamelon and he WAS inno (I don't konw if he was roleless, though)

So, by simple elimination, we should go for one of these three tomorrow, my money is on Emurlahn, but I'll have to see if we can come up with an actual case, barring any new trepidations and surprises

This post has been edited by Galain: 20 November 2008 - 12:29 PM


#1563 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 12:28 PM

 Liosan, on Nov 20 2008, 02:24 PM, said:

 Galain, on Nov 20 2008, 02:00 PM, said:

As you know, getting silenced tends to make things stick in your brain.

You almost lynch me you bastards :p I was screaming to my screen, I don't know if you heard it.


Did I almost lynch you? I can't recall having voted for you in some time


Sorry, the "you" in the second sentence was plural and adressed in general

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 12:41 PM

Wow, that was an amazingly funny scene. Screws thing up a little though :p Maybe it's DiB's punishment for the rash of reveals :p

Nice to see Galain back. I wasnt sure about Korv's cult killing abilities, and he didnt come back to us about that before he died, but I'm gonna regard him as VPI for the time being, since that was were he was on my list in any case. Also, got some feedback from DiBs. Info coming up, but it's a bit of a moot point really.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 12:45 PM

 Shadow, on Nov 19 2008, 08:44 PM, said:

 Ruse, on Nov 19 2008, 01:30 PM, said:

 Shadow, on Nov 19 2008, 08:07 PM, said:

Well Ruse, how does your ability work?
You obviously don't put someone in zero-tau, which is what hit Liosan. You said this yourself, your ability is distinctly different.
So, please give us a bit more of a description of the mechanics, in as far as you are allowed.
Zero-tau guards someone for a lot of time, preventing them from speaking, if we can believe Liosan, and when he said what he said, I can confirm that he was still sane and on our side.

So, is your ability 'touch and go'? No other effects on your target? If so, you're far more powerful than the zero-tau is, in my humble opinion. Since you seemingly can dispossess one target a night, is there a max number of changes? What happens to the depossessed? Are any abilities returned? What becomes their alignment? Does it only work on townies, or also on Ivets and cultists, or did you receive no info on that?

For now, I am inclined to believe you. And if your reveal hadn't come, I'd have voted for you. You were my main target for today, so I am at a bit of a loss now.


The rest of your post is very interesting. I'm definitely curious as to Galains response regarding his inno proof. Didn't notivce the hunting possessed thing. Anyway, gonna reply to the bit for me.

I asked the mods where the line between role reveal and modkill lies. Venge quoted me the 'no name reveals' thing. I sent him and example of what I might want to say and he said I should wait for DiBs. For now I ask that you wait till I get feedback regarding that aspect. If it somehow gets to crunch time before that, I will try give a couple of hints.

My ability is distinctly different, but I feel equal in power. My action only works at night. I can only expel a soul once it has been in the body for at least a day (ie I cant 'block' a possesion the same night it is made), meaning the possessed are given a full day to screw around. I'm assuming ghosts move into an alt at the end of night. Whoever has the zero-tau machine can then effectively block them from having any influence on the game from the second they enter the alt, and expels them at the end of the day, so a 'sortof' block. Also, the fact that the alt was obviously away all day is a bit of evidence that can be used should someone claim to have been possessed and now returned to their alt, something I cant give to the people I save. Meaning that should someone be targetted because of something their possessor said the previous day, I would have to step forward to prove the fact that they were possessed.

I wasnt made aware of any 'charges', since the skill is part of who I am, rather than a machine or something. I must say it makes much more sense with regard to my character - finder didnt fit the description of who I was, changing to exorcist fit much better.

Like I said before, I assumed the original player was returned to their alt if I was successful. Fener and Tellan's deaths have me doubting this a tiny bit.

I havent gotten any information about the people I tried to save. When I asked if I still have a find, I was told no. There was also a confusing statement about my ability not working on cult, which was clarified as me not being the decoder. Or at least, I didnt get corrected when I eventually asked if that was what was originally meant. So I assumed whoever I saved would go back to their original alignment. In short, as far as I know, it works on anyone who is possessed, and the original player keeps their alignment and abilities. But I must admit, I didnt think to ask about a couple of things and will do so now.

What you are saying is, (since you can't say it yourself :p ) you claim to be the priest mentioned in the stories?
Thanks for the explanation, look forward to see the details on the things you're still asking :p


That is correct. :biggrin:

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 12:52 PM

ah.. alright.. basically, I believe that if Ruse goes for Mockra and there's one player left with a blocking ability which is likely, then we've won. All we have to do is to coordinate our efforts just a little.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 12:54 PM

And hope we can do a fucking lynch without a straight-to-night-explosion before we reach the numbers :p

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 12:56 PM

that too

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 12:58 PM

*Cough* whinge *cough* vote faster *cough*
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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#1570 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:00 PM

vote Path-Shaper

I hope that was quick enough :p

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:00 PM

 Path-Shaper, on Nov 20 2008, 07:58 AM, said:

*Cough* whinge *cough* vote faster *cough*

I'll have you know that I've been fairly trigger happy this game.
* looks at Galain *

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:01 PM

 Galain, on Nov 20 2008, 07:54 AM, said:

And hope we can do a fucking lynch without a straight-to-explosion before we reach the numbers :p


There's nothing like the smell of burning flesh to go to bed with. * looks at hot poker, eyes Liosan * Wait, what?!

#1573 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:05 PM

 Shadow, on Nov 20 2008, 03:00 PM, said:

 Path-Shaper, on Nov 20 2008, 07:58 AM, said:

*Cough* whinge *cough* vote faster *cough*

I'll have you know that I've been fairly trigger happy this game.
* looks at Galain *


Yes, I'm still blown away with your case on me day 2.

It was like me saying that you were a cult leader because, obviously, the first thing you did when you got your vig kill was to eliminate your partner Omtose who was under no pressure at all, but, you know, maybe he made a mistake only you noticed. Then vote you based on that.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:11 PM

Anyways, I kid :p

You led a charge against me when I was powerless yesterday, you didn't know it at the time but I deserved my little poke :p

So has it been confirmed for sure that if one of you gets recruited to the cult (I don't mean possessed), you would lose capacity to communicate off-thread?

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:16 PM

 Galain, on Nov 20 2008, 03:11 PM, said:

Anyways, I kid :p

You led a charge against me when I was powerless yesterday, you didn't know it at the time but I deserved my little poke :p

So has it been confirmed for sure that if one of you gets recruited to the cult (I don't mean possessed), you would lose capacity to communicate off-thread?


yup, several times by PS

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:21 PM

Awesome then. I had this nagging feeling that Shadow convinced you to reveal last night because he got recruited the night before and didn't like to walk the fine line of hiding things from you. After the reveal, he exposed to the cult leader who they should recruit next to have a pair of innos "backing each other up"

Edit: changed "got" for "had" to make sure it's clear that it's the past tense.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:29 PM

 Galain, on Nov 20 2008, 08:21 AM, said:

Awesome then. I had this nagging feeling that Shadow convinced you to reveal last night because he got recruited the night before and didn't like to walk the fine line of hiding things from you. After the reveal, he exposed to the cult leader who they should recruit next to have a pair of innos "backing each other up"

Edit: changed "got" for "had" to make sure it's clear that it's the past tense.

It wasn't me who suggested his reveal :p In fact, i had kept my vig from him up until my reveal... a girl's allowed a secret, maybe one or two, no? :p

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:31 PM

Also, him being in stasis made me wonder quite a bit if he hadn't been recruited and contact was broken for that reason.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:48 PM

Really? i thought you couldn't talk during the days anyways.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 03:00 PM

Haha, I guess that was a pickle :p

Anyways, I honestly don't see how those two could be suspicious, unless we've been lied to by many different players.

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