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#1521 User is offline   Hood's Path 

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:32 AM

View PostKorvalain, on Nov 19 2008, 05:29 PM, said:

Screw it, I'm going to reveal because if I reveal we can cover our options. I'm the guy with the zero tau unit. I'm Security for Joshua.

I started the game as a Roleless Inno. I can back up the story of Ruse a little, as on the time of Rashan being lynched and killed, I also had a role change and got a Zero Tau Unit.

I put in my night action, and that person can't post till the end of the next day. In the end of day scene we find out what happened. If they are possessed, they are depossed. If they are Cult, they are killed.

Today in the machine is Galain, which is why I'm revealing since we are going to find out at the end of today if he's cult or possessed or not.

Yesterday in the machine I put Liosan, the day before was Thyrllan, which is why I suspect he got Mod killed straight away as he couldn't post the whole day anyway. I started out trying to get people who weren't under pressure so I didn't put Ruse/Omtose etc. If they weren't going to talk the entire day to defend themselves I wanted people who weren't initial suspects but were under the radar a little.

I went Galain as we needed Cult and he seemed to me the best cult pick and was happy to reveal today if he was put under pressure.


With both Ruse, myself and the guard, we can spread out, cover 3 different people, lynch a fourth suspect today and that pretty much covers the entire field.

As for Galain's proof, I had the same idea but completety forgot to do it, you have a code in a day 1 post that only you know. It means you can tell if someone is possessed, but not if they were recruited by asking them to reveal the code.


Holy SHIT!!! why now... right when I am leaving!!! I can stay on are you going to be around Korv??

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:35 AM

I'll stay for 15 min. Hopefully you will be around, to chat. I would like to believe you but.... This could be a Cult ploy. Does anyone know from old Mafia Games Can Cultists talk off thread?

also remove vote

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:38 AM

I'm around for a little while there HP.. you said you had a plan if Galain could clear himself, he obviously can't clear himself but I'm interested to hearing your plan.

For proof of my reveal, Liosan will back me up, do you think he spent all of yesterday not posting to back my reveal up now? Or because I had him locked away?

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:43 AM

Well, I can CI myself at any time, so when Shadow and a very hung over Liosan come back on We can discuss. I tend to want to believe you. It fits, especially the timing as well as the Mod kill timing on Thyr. So if we believe you, and Ruse.. we have our 5 Inno's. We can then make a Lynch order plan.. established Now, today before night. We stick to this plan. NO variations as after today everything is up in the air with Cult and Possesions in play and no finder. Then we just go down the list. If what you say is true and Ruse isn't full of shit. Galain will come back dead as a cultist.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:43 AM

You are an experienced player...can cultists talk with their cult leader off thread?

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:48 AM

Anyway, Today I would then say we Lynch Gay Lord. Guard Guards mockra or Emur... probably Mockra, and you put Telas/emur in your chamber tonight. I am guessing he will come back cultist though I believe it happened last night ( I am prepared for the Telas attack of me to follow :p )

Doing that, we just go down the list, maybe lynch Emur next, then Mockra, Then Telas. Any Variation or attempts at change by Ruse, Me, You, Shadow, or Liosan will be seen as a possesion or recruit and will thn be considered enemy.

Poke holes. I know its a rough draft.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:49 AM

Oh, good, another PI that we can confirm at the end of the Day. Or Night, however.

Remove Vote

@HP: How can you CI yourself?

@Korv: Feel free to hit me next Day (assuming I survive the Night), so as to prove that I'm Inno. I'm the most expendable Townie left, as I have no Role and never did, but wouldn't mind surviving to the end of the game, and if you can help ... Ruse can use his NA on me if he likes tonight to prove that I'm also not Possessed, though I don't think that anyone believes that I am, so I suppose that would be a waste ...

Of course, if I get recruited tonight, Korv will just wind up killing me tomorrow, and you'll all think that I'm lying. Fortunately, I'm probably pretty damned low on the recruitment priorities ... below all the people who'eve revealed and are now targets. Hope that Guard can pick out the recruiter, if there still is a Guard. And if there still is a Recruiter.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:49 AM

Fine with me, basically Ruse and I can cover 2 people, if there's a guard whose inno, they cover a third. If we lynch one suspect today get the result from Galain which will either clear or kill him, thats just about everyone covered whose not been cleared. I suspect Telas will get missed out as he hasnt' struck me as guilty.

Its just a matter of who gets what, I kill Cult as well as deposses people so its quite a handy little thing. To be honest I'm not sure how many depossed there are left, we have 2 maybe I would have thought 3 at max. So 1 possible left.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:51 AM

View PostKorvalain, on Nov 19 2008, 05:38 PM, said:

I'm around for a little while there HP.. you said you had a plan if Galain could clear himself, he obviously can't clear himself but I'm interested to hearing your plan.

For proof of my reveal, Liosan will back me up, do you think he spent all of yesterday not posting to back my reveal up now? Or because I had him locked away?


He already Posted that "Some twat locked him away" so we knew he was silenced... the problem is if you got recruited last night and are making a cult move... If you did get recruited last night, that would probably mean Telas is inno and you aren't... that being said we can still lynch the other 4 Gay Lord, Mockra, Emur, and Galain... cause if you are a cultist... Galian is going to come back inno.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:51 AM

Cultists can't normally talk with the Cult leader. If there are two leaders then they might be able to talk to each other, but recruits won't be able to, unless Dibs has special rules.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:53 AM

Crossposted with HP:

@HP: I'm more in favor of the "lynch Emur" plan, for obvious reasons. Though taking me down today would only prove that I'm Inno right now, whereas, as I said in my previous post, there's no guarantee about tomorrow ... of course, if Korv decides today to put me in the tau-whatever machine tomorrow, that may keep the Cult and Possessed from wasting time trying to take me.


Edit: Mind you, I suspect that at least one of the four Reveals is fake. No one in particular, just the odds are in favor of someone playing us all. Which screws with the supposed strategy, but it's the best we've got.

This post has been edited by Galayn Lord: 20 November 2008 - 01:55 AM


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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:55 AM

^^ ok that eases my mind a little. @ Gay Lord Believe me I can :p ( I know its Mafia and you won't) I need to find out if Shadow and Liosan are willing to trust me.. If not I will CI myself and make them trust me. I have also imbedded a code in one of my early posts to protect against possesion. So I can prove I am not possesed as well.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:57 AM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Nov 19 2008, 05:53 PM, said:

Crossposted with HP:

@HP: I'm more in favor of the "lynch Emur" plan, for obvious reasons. Though taking me down today would only prove that I'm Inno right now, whereas, as I said in my previous post, there's no guarantee about tomorrow ... of course, if Korv decides today to put me in the tau-whatever machine tomorrow, that may keep the Cult and Possessed from wasting time trying to take me.



Emur... You... It doesn't really matter at this point, and I would be willing to vote him if just to help an inno win :p We have 5 CI's in my mind and if you are willing to vote with us to prove your innocence I would move you to the bottom of the list :p

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:59 AM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Nov 19 2008, 05:53 PM, said:

Crossposted with HP:

@HP: I'm more in favor of the "lynch Emur" plan, for obvious reasons. Though taking me down today would only prove that I'm Inno right now, whereas, as I said in my previous post, there's no guarantee about tomorrow ... of course, if Korv decides today to put me in the tau-whatever machine tomorrow, that may keep the Cult and Possessed from wasting time trying to take me.


Edit: Mind you, I suspect that at least one of the four Reveals is fake. No one in particular, just the odds are in favor of someone playing us all. Which screws with the supposed strategy, but it's the best we've got.


If there is a fake it is with Ruse or Korv imo. but their 2 stories fit so perfectly together.. Dibs gave us a means of finding possesed, and also of depossesing them. If there was a fake reveal I would lean towards Ruse....

No one still has explained why Tennes died during the night. Either of you know the answer to this?

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 02:02 AM

ok I really have to go.... I will check back in 4-5 hours to see if anyone has been on. I also tend to believe Korv because Doesn't it seem like Mockra/Emur have seemed kind of directionless today? If Galain never shows up to vote today I think we have our Cult leader. and that would confirm Korv Reveal, And if you ( Gay Lord) are with us then we can lynch Emur guard Mockra, and that should be that.... of course its mafia and it never works out like that.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 02:06 AM

Tennes wasn't me, it means out there we still have the Teacher giving out Vigs?

I tend to trust Ruse and his reveal, his infomation matches up with mine exactly with timing etc.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 02:06 AM

View PostHood's Path, on Nov 19 2008, 05:57 PM, said:

Emur... You... It doesn't really matter at this point, and I would be willing to vote him if just to help an inno win :p We have 5 CI's in my mind and if you are willing to vote with us to prove your innocence I would move you to the bottom of the list :p




I said earlier I'd be voting with a Liosan-Shadow-Ruse bloc. You would seem to now be a part of that bloc, and I suppose Korv.

I my mind, we have 6 CI's, since I'm obviously including myself. This would put us over the top for a Lynch, assuming no one's faking. If anyone of Liosan-Shadow-Ruse-Korv-HP fails to vote with the others, we can assume their reveal was a fake. If I fail to vote with you 5, you can assume I'm lying about being Inno. I'm saying up front right now that I'll vote with you, and if you think I'm a Possessed trying to help take down a Cultist, Ruse can prove otherwise tonight or Korv can tomorrow.



Vote Emurlahn



Since that's what I'm hoping is the next move. Besides voting for me, of course, which is the one plan I wouldn't really be in favor of ...

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 02:18 AM

it is day 6, you have a bit less than 19 hours left

10 people are still alive (Ruse, Emurlahn, Telas, Hood's Path, Korvalain, Shadow, Liosan, Galain, Mockra, Galayn Lord)
takes 6 votes to lynch, 5 to go to night

1 vote for Mockra (Liosan)
1 vote for Galain (Shadow)
1 vote for Emurlahn (Galayn Lord)


6 people have not voted yet (Mockra, Ruse, Galain, Korvalain, Telas, Emurlahn)
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 20 November 2008 - 02:31 AM

I'm happy to either vote Emurlahn or Mockra today.


The question is, who goes into my unit tonight? If we lynch Emurlahn, we have a choice of Mockra, Telas, GL or further out choice Shadow.

Running some numbers:
We have 10 players.
Our CIs are, HP, Korv, Liosan and Ruse.
Leaving us with 6 possibles.
Galain we get a result from today, thusly down to 5

Shadow and Telas are at the bottom of my list, giving me a list of:

Emurlahn, Galayn Lord and Mockra.

One of who we lynch, the other perhaps the unit, the third Guarded/Rused.

Shadow could still be a cult as don't cult keep their roles so thusly could still be Lover + Cult and Liosan will never know.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 02:39 AM

View PostKorvalain, on Nov 19 2008, 06:31 PM, said:

Shadow could still be a cult as don't cult keep their roles so thusly could still be Lover + Cult and Liosan will never know.



Uh, as Lovers they would be allowed to communicate via PM at any time.

If one was recruited, wouldn't that no longer be allowed? I have no idea how that rule would work ... though I suspect that one player would be allowed to lead the other on after recruitment, just for a further head-fuck.

If one doesn't go along with the other, I suppose then we'll know. In fact, if one of the Lovers doesn't go along with the CI voting group, we'll know.

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