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#1501 User is offline   Telas 

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 10:31 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Nov 19 2008, 10:10 PM, said:

@Telas- I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on Possible Cult heads. Are you still around?


At the moment, pending the nature of his supposed proof I'm going with Galain. If he passes modkill time before he posts I'm going to assume he's silenced and can't answer today. Then I'm going to have to weigh up the risk of maybe letting the recruiter go another night with the reward of possibly gaining a CI tomorrow.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 10:36 PM

I want a cult target first and foremost. If we have a guard, he can take care of Mockra and end his influence on the game.
Since Liosans case on Mockra deals mostly with possession, I'll leave my vote on Galain until there is no chance at all of getting him down, and switch to Mockra or Galayn Lord only once that is clear.

#1503 User is offline   Hood's Path 

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 10:37 PM

After having gone over Mockra's posts I really don't think he is possesed. On the other hand. I think Gaylan Lord might now be possesed. Look at his posts starting today. Get a different vibe from his posts. Very aggresive (more so than in the past). Just a thought.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 10:43 PM

View PostShadow, on Nov 19 2008, 02:36 PM, said:

I want a cult target first and foremost. If we have a guard, he can take care of Mockra and end his influence on the game.



Thank you, thats all I needed to hear.

remove vote

vote Galain

Dammit I feel like Lisheo with all this vote changing. (I still think Mockra is Cult)

#1505 User is offline   Galayn Lord 

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 10:46 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Nov 19 2008, 02:37 PM, said:

After having gone over Mockra's posts I really don't think he is possesed. On the other hand. I think Gaylan Lord might now be possesed. Look at his posts starting today. Get a different vibe from his posts. Very aggresive (more so than in the past). Just a thought.



There's a smaller pool of people - I'm going to have to be a bit more on the aggressive and on the ball in order to help win. Not to mention that the fewer the people, the more likely it is that everyone will have a turn being targeted - as I now have been - and need to come on strong to defend themselves.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 10:50 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Nov 19 2008, 02:46 PM, said:

View PostHood's Path, on Nov 19 2008, 02:37 PM, said:

After having gone over Mockra's posts I really don't think he is possesed. On the other hand. I think Gaylan Lord might now be possesed. Look at his posts starting today. Get a different vibe from his posts. Very aggresive (more so than in the past). Just a thought.



There's a smaller pool of people - I'm going to have to be a bit more on the aggressive and on the ball in order to help win. Not to mention that the fewer the people, the more likely it is that everyone will have a turn being targeted - as I now have been - and need to come on strong to defend themselves.


Fair enough, it was just an observation. Thanks for addressing it.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 10:54 PM

I'd add that if Shadow and Liosan both agree to go after Galain, I'm in with that ... but not until both of our most likely Confirmed Innocents - and Ruse, I guess, though I await proof of that - vote for him. Don't think of it jumping on a train for the sake of being lazy ... think of it as caucusing. It's time to start sticking together openly.

... you know what, here:

Vote Galain

That puts three on him. My primary rationale is that he's a heavy poster who never really comes up with more than fluff. He hasn't said anything to condemn himself, but he hasn't, well, really said anything, though he's still high poster, without even posting yet today.

#1508 User is offline   Hood's Path 

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 10:58 PM

View PostTelas, on Nov 19 2008, 02:26 PM, said:

Just finished catching up. I'm going to hold off voting in the hopes Galain actually being able to deliver on his promised inno proof. If he can't, or if the proof he offers doesn't hold with me then that is where my vote is going.

If I do like his proof then I'm looking at Mockra and Korv for my vote, probably Korv. Mockra, because his wishy-washy, not-going-to-attack-anyone... ever... style is easy to copy so he may well be possessed, if anyone left is.

Korv because of the way his posting has changed. Not so much in writing style, but rather in frequency and content. It indicates someone who was recruited I think. Went from having the boring inno winning condition to having something to fight for, some scope to manipulate. His posts increase on confidence I feel, which may be a result of knowing more info, such as the leaders identity or suchlike.


As he is the top poster, and many seem to have alt guessed him, I can't imagine that the tau placer inner guy, if he is still around, would choose to try to keep him from being possesed, apart from you, he is the most distinctive poster left and a very poor possesion candidate. thats just my opinion. I doubt he will have been silenced.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 11:03 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Nov 19 2008, 11:12 PM, said:

@ Ruse- I think we might wan't to consider you not performing your night action right now. More than likely its 5-5 right? With 5 town and 4 cult and 1 possesed. We need that possesed and that possesed needs us. It is the ONLY way we are going to be able to get a lynch on a cultist. Say we manage to lynch a Cultist today. its 5-3-1. But then you take out the possesed, and the cult recruits. then its 4-4 and we are placing our game in the hands of the cult, depending on who they posses that night. Our only chance would be if they chose a cultist to recruit. making it 4-3-1. and we are in the same boat...but I don't like placing Just a thought. and something I thought of on the Fly, if that seems wrong please let me know.


Holding my NA isnt really I've considered up to now. You make an interesting point. The way I understand my role (and I've has semi-confirmation from the mods) is that I cant kill anyone. Since everyone that I put an NA on who was actually possessed died under mysterious circumstances, I've been keeping the possibility open that I might. But I doubt it, and the from what I understand the original players returns to the possessed alt with the alignment and abilities they previously possessed. So if I depossess an inno, all is good, but if I depossess someone who used to be cult I could actually tip the scales in their favour. Damn. If you really want I could hold my NA (I'm assuming the other depossessor would act similarly).

@GL Sortof in reference to the above. I'd be happy to reveal who I was going to depossees in advance, should you guys decide to risk it. HP makes a really good point that I honestly hadn't considered, since I haven't played that close atention to the maths this game.

@Telas, I suppose my vote was a little OMGUS, although that wasnt it solely. I'm not 100% sure whether I'm happy with the reaction I got, but I'm less suspicious than I was a couple of hours ago. I also really like how much discussion has happened tonight. In fact I'm going to

remove vote


for now. We seem to be waiting on galain. Once again, I hope he isnt silenced. Althouogh if he is, the other depossessor survived another night at least, and galain isnt him. We'll probably know tomorrow if he hasnt turned up by then. Also, everything in my reveal is true, though people believing the info about you and Liosan is much more important than believing my role claim. I cant really prove my role at this point, since even if I did get a depossession right, from the outside it could simply look like cult collusion.

@Liosan, I'm drunk too :p But not as much as you it seems

@Shadow, I think cult are a bigger threat than possessed at this point. Since there's at least me (and hopefully tau man) left, and the fact that they need absolute control of the thread to win, they're still a way from winning, whereas cult could be close.

Anyway, do you people think I (and the tau man by implication) should use our NAs? And if so on who? Also, I'm going to post a half completed sentence off a website sometime tomorrow RL time, just in case the possessed try get clever. It's pretty late here and I'm too tired to go search for something suitably obscure to reference right now though. Anyway, I'm gonna be around for like 15 more min, then I'm going to bed.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 11:12 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Nov 20 2008, 12:58 AM, said:

As he is the top poster, and many seem to have alt guessed him, I can't imagine that the tau placer inner guy, if he is still around, would choose to try to keep him from being possesed, apart from you, he is the most distinctive poster left and a very poor possesion candidate. thats just my opinion. I doubt he will have been silenced.


I would think so too, but he is conspicuous in his absence. I'd also feel way more comfortable with less votes on him. Only 6 to lynch at this point. If it is crunchvote, all we need is 3 cult to jump out of nowhere and hammer.

I'm going to wait until there are six hours left in the day for galain to reply. If he hasnt by then he has in all likely hood been silenced. Which is a bit of a screwup. Voting without a defense is dodgy, especially since there is some claimed inno proof that I would really like to see. Although it does make it obvious galain is not zero tau man.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 11:15 PM

Well I cant see how we can get confirmation on your night action unless you do manage to actually hit a possessed and the person comes abck and says they were possessed so I dont see how thats an idea.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 11:15 PM

Does anyone know when six hours before end of day will be? The downtime and long night has screwed me up, I'm guessing it will be tomorrow afternoon GMT. Ok, five more minutes to chat, then I'm off to bed.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 11:21 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on Nov 20 2008, 01:15 AM, said:

Well I cant see how we can get confirmation on your night action unless you do manage to actually hit a possessed and the person comes abck and says they were possessed so I dont see how thats an idea.


Like I said, I cant prove it at this point :p Even if that does happen, people will immediately go 'but they could both just be cult'. Still, I'd like people's opinions on whether I should be using my NA tonight after what HP brought up, and if so on whom.

Anyway, I'm off to bed now, see you all tomorrow.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 11:21 PM

it is day 6, you have a bit less than 22 hours left

10 people are still alive (Ruse, Emurlahn, Telas, Hood's Path, Korvalain, Shadow, Liosan, Galain, Mockra, Galayn Lord)
takes 6 votes to lynch, 5 to go to night

1 vote for Mockra (Liosan)
3 votes for Galain (Shadow, Hood's Path, Galayn Lord)


6 people have not voted yet (Mockra, Ruse, Galain, Korvalain, Telas, Emurlahn)

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 19 November 2008 - 11:35 PM

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 19 November 2008 - 11:42 PM

@ Ruse... Hold on. If your N/A depossesion doesn't kill people then Why did Tennes die? Was he Zero Tau'd? Is that the idea? Also, where the hell did this zero Tau thing come from. Someone got it from Wiki right? But other than that why are we assuming there is another role? Cause Liosan got silenced?

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 12:42 AM

nono, do 'ts not use your power.. gah, stupids spellign! Use it on Mockra adn see that I was right. And if there's cult sI think it is Galayn Lros. GL at leadstf has a scumy role.

galain is not bad choices eithere thoguh. I am just convicned that thos two: GL, Mockre, are evil.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:25 AM

Wow.... If you weren't CI I would lynch you now and say you were Anomandaris back from the dead :p

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:27 AM

View PostHood's Path, on Nov 19 2008, 10:58 PM, said:

As he is the top poster, and many seem to have alt guessed him, I can't imagine that the tau placer inner guy, if he is still around, would choose to try to keep him from being possesed, apart from you, he is the most distinctive poster left and a very poor possesion candidate. thats just my opinion. I doubt he will have been silenced.


I hear what you're saying, but I'm willing to wait until his modkill timer runs out, or at least close to that, before I make any decisions about him. I'll be here for the timed end of day, so I don't see the harm in waiting for what could be a very important post.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:29 AM

Screw it, I'm going to reveal because if I reveal we can cover our options. I'm the guy with the zero tau unit. I'm Security for Joshua.

I started the game as a Roleless Inno. I can back up the story of Ruse a little, as on the time of Rashan being lynched and killed, I also had a role change and got a Zero Tau Unit.

I put in my night action, and that person can't post till the end of the next day. In the end of day scene we find out what happened. If they are possessed, they are depossed. If they are Cult, they are killed.

Today in the machine is Galain, which is why I'm revealing since we are going to find out at the end of today if he's cult or possessed or not.

Yesterday in the machine I put Liosan, the day before was Thyrllan, which is why I suspect he got Mod killed straight away as he couldn't post the whole day anyway. I started out trying to get people who weren't under pressure so I didn't put Ruse/Omtose etc. If they weren't going to talk the entire day to defend themselves I wanted people who weren't initial suspects but were under the radar a little.

I went Galain as we needed Cult and he seemed to me the best cult pick and was happy to reveal today if he was put under pressure.


With both Ruse, myself and the guard, we can spread out, cover 3 different people, lynch a fourth suspect today and that pretty much covers the entire field.

As for Galain's proof, I had the same idea but completety forgot to do it, you have a code in a day 1 post that only you know. It means you can tell if someone is possessed, but not if they were recruited by asking them to reveal the code.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 01:30 AM

Anyway, I am off for 6 hours. Hopefully some ppl come back by then. Not gonna lie, I am not convinced on Gay Lord. At least he is active today... Notice who else was active today... Shadow (VPI), Liosan (VPI), ME (CI), Ruse (PI) and... Gay Lord. Few posts from Telas, Mockra and Emu... but not much. I really think Mockra and Emu areCultists, not necessarily heads though. I would like to think Telas is Inno, but There is just no way to tell and he is a Probably recruit from last night. Back in 6 hrs to check in.

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