[Tiste Simeon]

Maybe he could slip Caine into a Star Wars book? (he writes those, correct?)

[Morgoth]

 Abyss, on 21 August 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:

 Morgoth, on 21 August 2013 - 08:41 PM, said:

 Abyss, on 21 August 2013 - 06:30 PM, said:

 Tiste Simeon, on 21 August 2013 - 06:06 PM, said:

...Is that the last book in the Caine series or are more planned?

Unknown. Stover has plans for more, but the odds of him gettings dollars to write them are poor. fuck.

Objection. The Universe is ultimately charitable and will bestows blessing upon Stover. amen.

Over-ruled. The evidence clearly, abundantly and painfuckingfully shows that the Universe is a cold harsh cash money driven place and Stover's true genius is ignored while he's paid to write licensed property stuff.

Point of order. You failed to end your post with a non capitalized word in a single word sentence. Therefore you must aquit. exactus.

This post has been edited by Morgoth: 22 August 2013 - 06:21 AM

[birthSqueeze]

I didn't realize most of the early books in this series are out of print. Guess I'll have to wait longer than I expected to read it. How long is this series anyway? Do they all read like standalone books? How big is the world Stover creates?

[Abyss]

 birthSqueeze, on 27 August 2013 - 03:45 AM, said:

I didn't realize most of the early books in this series are out of print. Guess I'll have to wait longer than I expected to read it. How long is this series anyway? Do they all read like standalone books? How big is the world Stover creates?

It's all available in ebook.
No you don't.
Four glorious books.
No 3 and 4 are essentially one story.
Fucking huge.

[Salt-Man Z]

Another great interview just went up here. Including this bit (relevant to a couple pages back in the thread):

The Stove said:

I never intended to make you buy more books to find out how one of my stories ends – the only reason Act of Atonement is in two volumes is that it is actually two different stories that combine to make a larger one (kind of the way the two narratives combine in Caine Black Knife itself), and I couldn’t think of a way to make it all work as a single volume. Not to mention that it would be longer than Blade, and thus be a bit of a handful in paperback.

[dietl]

In CBK, did anyone else see this: Marade, Knight TARTHell. Strong, blond, loyal, not-quite-pretty knight, Tarth. Is she a tribute to Brienne or is it coincidence?I

[Macros]

Finished these up before Christmas.
just recalled there was a thread for them somewhere.
not reading 10 pages of OMFG ITS AWESOME.
the first two books? Yeah, entertaining stuff, Caines a bastard, a bastard who get shit done. My kinda guy.
Third book was good too, not as good as the first two, but getting the long retreat from boedecken was awesome
Fourth book can go fuck a goat. Drawn out crap.

Now, as a whole, stover has created an entertaining setting, earths fucked, dystopian future (correct word?) That settings been done to death, but stover gives us a great window out, we only look back on fucked earth to see why such escapism that over world provided is so profitable. I loved that.
I loved the cast for the most part, the story just dragged its balls over broken glass in the final quarter. It was unnecessarily convoluted and at times painful to read.

Profanity.
Anyone who knows me knows I have no fucking problem whatsoever with cursing. Its an effective way to add emphasis to a ststment and catch someone's attention (people who cant say a sentence without every word being fucking annoy me, I work with a guy who uses the word fucking as the French use that irritating 'aåuhjjhghh' between all their words)
But Caines cursing, whilst inventive, is fucking stupid at times. In a stress situation you scream fuck, you don't produce a lengthy overcomplicated, possibly physically impossible, statement. It just read at times like a kid who was given leave to curse in a school report and was getting inventive.
if its a threat or a conversation, throw them in, its part of his character. But mid fight or explosive rant it pulled.me out of the narrative, shout fuck as you fall off a cliff, not fuck me in the ass sideways, there isn't fucking time.

[End of Disc One]

So I finally started the first book--finished "Day 1". So far the writing is smooth and the story has kept my attention the whole time. I am intrigued by the villains Ma'elKoth and Berne, and want to see more of them. It definitely seems like the pieces have been set for a kick ass FUCKING story.

This post has been edited by Abyss: 15 July 2014 - 01:09 PM
Reason for edit: Lack of profanity part 1.

[Aptorian]

The first book is one of those rare masterfuckingpieces where everything comes the fuck together to create a story with a great build up and an extremely satisfying mindfuck of an ending.

I have trouble thinking of any real flaws in the first book and anyone who says there are any can go fuck themfucks. It's just a really good self contained story.

This post has been edited by Abyss: 15 July 2014 - 01:11 PM
Reason for edit: Lack of profanity pt 2

[Macros]

Agreed. Number 1 was a great book FUCKING FUCK THE FUCKITY FUCK FUCK
AND ALSO FUCK YAHY FUCK
THERE I FUCKING FIXED IT ARE YOU ALL FUCKING HAPPY NOW
IS LIFE AND THE UNIVERSE RIGHT AGAIN
I SWEAR TO FUCK YOU PEOPLE ARE JUST SO
FUCKING DEMANFUCKINGDING SOMEFUCKTIMES...

This post has been edited by Abyss: 15 July 2014 - 01:13 PM
Reason for edit: LACK OF FUCKING PROFANITY IN THE FUCKING CAINE FUCKING THREAD FUCK PART FUCKING FUCK

[Salt-Man Z]

 Briar King, on 01 July 2014 - 01:14 AM, said:

Where the fuck are yalls F Bombs? This fucking thread fucking requires F bombs on each post.

Mods please enlighten those post.

Word.

Fucking Abyss is fucking slacking.

Fuck.

[End of Disc One]

Finished Heroes Fucking Die. Just excellent, completely lived up to the hype.

There were several little twists and turns along the way, but nothing too out of the ordinary for this kind of novel. Except one thing that I did NOT see coming at the end was

Spoiler

Caine bringing Ma'elKoth back to Earth. Wow, talk about some interesting set up for the next book

One minor complaint

Spoiler

Pallas suddenly gaining the power of the river god. It felt very DEM, but that was an awesome action sequence so I'm not too bothered by it. Oh and I do wonder how Ma'elKoth become a god simply by obtaining an artifact. Seems too easy, but I'm sure you guys will just say "read the next book."

And regarding the next book (which I won't read right away; I just don't do that with series), I'm aware of the general reputation of it. BoT is probably the fan favorite, but it's also more divisive than HD since it's supposedly much longer and more tedious at times. I read the blurb and they make it look like

Spoiler

it could be much more centered on Earth as opposed to Overworld? Not sure how I feel about that. Love me some fantasy.

Anyway yeah, good fucking book.

[Salt-Man Z]

Fear not. BoT is much more fantasy-oriented than HD. (Stover, in fact, considers HD to be sci-fi, while BoT is epic fantasy.)

[Traveller]

I pushed the CoCaine onto a Dr at work few months ago.

She came up to me yesterday and couldn't stop talking about it, and it totally made me want to go and start a reread. So far I've got her into Dresden, Stover and Caine... I'm building up to MBotF.

[Abyss]

 Salt-Man Z, on 01 July 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:

 Briar King, on 01 July 2014 - 01:14 AM, said:

Where the fuck are yalls F Bombs? This fucking thread fucking requires F bombs on each post.

Mods please enlighten those post.

Word.

Fucking Abyss is fucking slacking.

Fuck.

i was on vacation.
fixed now.
....i swear to fuck me like a chicken pot fucking piefuck i go away for a week and it's like the afuckalypse around here...

 End of Disc One, on 15 July 2014 - 03:32 AM, said:

Finished Heroes Fucking Die. Just excellent, completely lived up to the hype.

There were several little twists and turns along the way, but nothing too out of the ordinary for this kind of novel. Except one thing that I did NOT see coming at the end was

Spoiler

Caine bringing Ma'elKoth back to Earth. Wow, talk about some interesting set up for the next book

One minor complaint

Spoiler

Pallas suddenly gaining the power of the river god. It felt very DEM, but that was an awesome action sequence so I'm not too bothered by it. Oh and I do wonder how Ma'elKoth become a god simply by obtaining an artifact. Seems too easy, but I'm sure you guys will just say "read the next book."

And regarding the next book (which I won't read right away; I just don't do that with series), I'm aware of the general reputation of it. BoT is probably the fan favorite, but it's also more divisive than HD since it's supposedly much longer and more tedious at times. I read the blurb and they make it look like

Spoiler

it could be much more centered on Earth as opposed to Overworld? Not sure how I feel about that. Love me some fantasy.

Anyway yeah, good fucking book.

Glad you liked it EoDO, i've been pimping it for years here and it's always nice when someone new tries and likes.
Also if you didn't like it we'd have to fucking fuck you the fuck upfuck.

But there is a lot of RAFO to your questions and BoT answers some of it.

 Salt-Man Z, on 15 July 2014 - 03:55 AM, said:

Fear not. BoT is much more fantasy-oriented than HD. (Stover, in fact, considers HD to be sci-fi, while BoT is epic fantasy.)

Which is funny considering...

 Briar King, on 15 July 2014 - 04:39 AM, said:

BoT has the most Earth time of the 4 yes but it is fanfuckingtastic Earth time fear not.

Yeah, BoT is a radical shift from HD in many respects, and it doesn't work for some people. I personally loved it for exactly that reason.

Also because it's fucking awesome.

 Traveller, on 15 July 2014 - 07:49 AM, said:

I pushed the CoCaine onto a Dr at work few months ago.

She came up to me yesterday and couldn't stop talking about it, and it totally made me want to go and start a reread. So far I've got her into Dresden, Stover and Caine... I'm building up to MBotF.

Nicely done.

[Tiste Simeon]

 Traveller, on 15 July 2014 - 07:49 AM, said:

I pushed the CoCaine onto a Dr at work few months ago.

She came up to me yesterday and couldn't stop talking about it, and it totally made me want to go and start a reread. So far I've got her into Dresden, Stover and Caine... I'm building up to MBotF.

TRAVELLER WINS THE THREAD

[Abyss]

 Tisteon Simeonus, on 16 July 2014 - 08:04 PM, said:

 Traveller, on 15 July 2014 - 07:49 AM, said:

I pushed the CoCaine onto a Dr at work few months ago.

She came up to me yesterday and couldn't stop talking about it, and it totally made me want to go and start a reread. So far I've got her into Dresden, Stover and Caine... I'm building up to MBotF.

TRAVELLER WINS THE THREAD

that's it, i give the fuck up.

[Tiste Simeon]

Sorry, should have said TRAVELLER WINS THE FLIPPING THREAD, YOU BLINKING SMELLY IDIOTS!

[Abyss]

Cover for the Bulgarian release of HEROES DIE.... pay attention to the (very clever) bottom part...




Found on Stover's FB page, btw https://www.facebook...wwoodringstover

[EmperorMagus]

21 chapters into Blade of Tyshalle, a few things I just have to say:

1) The Blind God: This reminds me of a book named "The Sum of All Men" . the blind god is that. It is such a great concept as a metaphor and when it becomes a real god that's just so .... AWESOME.
2)Magic vs assault rifles and nerve gas : Soooo much win.
3)Crippled Cain fighting makes me want to go hit some random person in the street.
4) Faith: that's just so damn dark, and so realistic it makes me want the human race extinct.
5) I don't understand what philosophy Stover is advocating, if you look at the surface of things, it seems like he is advocating anarchism, but there some bits in the book (for example the part with Ma'elKoth and Duncan arguing when Harry calls Ma'elkoth's arguments logical and Duncan's arguments just quotes) and it really makes you think. Sometimes Authoritarian governments are really better than "fair" ones.

Anyway, great book so far.

This post has been edited by EmperorMagus: 18 September 2014 - 05:04 PM