[QuickTidal]

amphibian, on 13 December 2011 - 09:13 PM, said:

I quite liked Ang Lee's Hulk.

You're not the only one, lots of people do.

It's the comic nerd in me that resists things like having Bruce Banner enjoy/like/desire the change into Hulk, when in the comics one of the base characteristics of Banner is his reluctance to put people in danger and hates being Hulk. The other thing I loathed was the attempt to make shots and transitions look and feel like comic book panels, it was jarring and doesn't really work filmicly (for me at least). Ang Lee did kind of his own interpretation of the character, whereas the Ed Norton Hulk was how I always saw him, and I hope that the Hulk in AVENGERS is the same reluctant Banner/Hulk.

[Abyss]

Ang Lee made the Hulk all about Banner's daddy issues, and then spiked Nick Nolte's prune juice with crackcocaine and cast him loose before the cameras, all to ill effect.

GIJoe the movie similarly made the flic all about Cobra Commander's daddy issues with Golubulus, to similarly ill effect. Fortunately we then got ten minutes of Sgt Slaughter punching Nemesis Enforcer in the face and all was made well with the world.

Lee's Hulk has no such redeeming features.

And now you know.

[McLovin]

And why do we have to give Cobra Commander issues? Can't he just be some asshole with a terrorist army? Like how Darth Vader was in my perfect childhood memory of Episode IV.

[QuickTidal]

My fave thing about Cobra Commander was when he showed up on Transformers as "Old Snake" in a trenchoat and hat as an arms dealer to baddies.



But yeah, I always pictured Cobra Commander as just a totally insane "Some men just want to watch the world burn" type guy. He doesn't need issues.

And I dislike MOST of the G.I. Joe animated movie for pissing on a number of the cartoon's conventions. I only shouted Cobra-lalalala cause it was recognizable, not because I liked it.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 14 December 2011 - 03:07 PM

[QuickTidal]

...and so G.I. JOE: RETALIATION (which actually looked good) has been pushed back almost a YEAR to March 2013 to..and I quote the Studio head who spoke about it..."Post-convert to 3D for a more fullfilling audience experience" This when the film is a month away from release and the marketing push so far has been RIDICULOUS including a pricey superbowl spot.

Okay, this is probably a three-fold decision:

1. The film has been test screening with two different endings. The word leaking out of those screenings is that the film is actually awful...grain of salt that though as we can't exactly trust "leaked words" from test screenings.

2. They saw THE HUNGER GAMES, and AVENGERS destroy all comers...and they were going to be going up against BRAVE opening the same weekend, and then the have the summer filled with hope like DARK KNIGHT RISES, PROMETHEUS and the like...a scary studio proposition...and I bet they chickened out.

3. Post Convert to 3D is probably two-pronged. A) It does NOT take nine months to post-convert, but I bet they are doing it because of the extra bank they can charge for a 3D ticket.

Basically, I see it like this. They KNEW the movie wasn't up to snuff...and while it might be entertaining popcorn fare, opening in summer 2012 so far seems to mean you have to bring your BEST...and G.I. JOE 2 might not be their best...adding the fact that they pushed the shit out of BATTLESHIP and it tanked...HARD...they feel that moving it to next spring is best.

Personally I feel it's a mis-step for the sole fact that they have spent the last six months pimping the shit out of this with trailers, tv spots, magazine articles ect...and in a years time...who the fuck will care? How are they going to ramp up excitment next year for it to get folk in the theatre? They won't. Even if the film was fun, it will now totally FAIL because of this one stupid studio decision.

I say release at the date as it was originally (even against BRAVE), take those lumps and don't waste the opportunity to get people into the theatre who WERE going to see it...because those people (myself included) are probably now not going to bother next March.

[Abyss]

the same people who would have gone now will go then. the only difference is all the people who MIGHT go because nothing else worth seeing is playing.

[QuickTidal]

Meh, I won't go. I'm doing that on principle now.

[Coco with marshmallows]

fortunately for me I have a cineworld card.

And no principles.

so i'll probably go regardless.

[tiam]

Cocoreturns, on 24 May 2012 - 09:03 PM, said:

fortunately for me I have a cineworld card.

And no principles.

so i'll probably go regardless.

I am now in this camp ad will do the same. I stayed away from the first GI Joe film because of Tatum and his Oscar winning turn in Step Up, which I was forced to watch once.

Ill have to watch the first one now

[Abyss]

Sometimes i love io9 SO MUCH !

...tho i take issue with the last one because he was a member of Sgt Rock's Easy Company a thousand years ago.

[McLovin]

Abyss, on 27 March 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

Sometimes i love io9 SO MUCH !

...tho i take issue with the last one because he was a member of Sgt Rock's Easy Company a thousand years ago.

Which IIRC is how long WWII lasted according to Sgt Rock comics.

[Abyss]

Newsarama and io9 both posted positive reviews of RETALIATION today.

...yeah, i didn't believe it either...

[Primateus]

Saw it earlier today, it was magnificently awful

[McLovin]

*sigh* I now want to see it. I am just a glutton for punishment.

So...I saw it. Wasn't as bad as the first IIRC, but still big moments of dumb. You're swordfighting on the side of mountain. Suspended by ropes. Swords. Ropes. Swords. Ropes. IT DOESN'T TAKE A GENIUS FFS.

You could also clearly see they cut a lot out, which makes you wonder just how bad the original cut was.

This post has been edited by McLovin: 04 April 2013 - 12:23 PM

[Grimjust Bearegular]

I had a blast watching it, it's just fun all around.

Oh, and Bruce Willis.... *drool*


Much better than the first one, methinks.

[tiam]

SO I saw this and some other stuff ina a three film in one day at the cinema.]]I loved it. Better than the Expendables, and as a film it has to be compared to that. I just really enjoyed it and Bruce Willis is very good in it. Reminded me very much of RED.

A good watch.